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jimnyc
09-30-2016, 08:11 PM
CBS Analyst is Shocked! Shocked!, He Says, that Media not Covering Machado's Sordid Past

Bill Rahn, managing editor of CBS News Digital, is a very sharp fellow. He noticed something "curious" about coverage of former Miss Venezuela Alicia Machado by other news outlets: they are not including any of her sordid past when reporting the story.

It isn't so much that Rahn is oblivious to the media bias inherent in covering anything to do with Donald Trump. It's that he noticed it and is surprised by it.

The most interesting thing about the mainstream articles is what they leave out. There is no discussion at CNN or The New York Times, for instance, about her post-pageant fame as the fiancée of Phillies outfielder Bobby Abreu, or how he reportedly called it off after a reality show she was on revealed video of her apparently having sex with a housemate.

Likewise, there is little mention of how a Venezuelan judge once alleged on live TV that Machado had threatened to kill him. Or how the Mexican attorney general’s office later said she was the girlfriend of a major narco trafficker, and that she he had a child with him, according to Univision and other outlets. Or how a government witness who reportedly testified about their affair was later shot to death.

A certain reticence is fair and appropriate when discussing the private lives of people alleging abuse at the hands of powerful men. The Clintons, of course, are no strangers to this, as they have been accused repeatedly of trying to smear women who’ve said President Clinton was sexually inappropriate with them.

But there’s something odd about news coverage that avoids easily available and fascinating stories about that person’s life. And it’s especially peculiar when that person is a campaign surrogate for a major party nominee, which is what Machado is now.

It should go without saying that, even if all the allegations against Machado are true, they do not justify Trump derogating her with sexist and racist language. Moreover, it speaks volumes about Trump that Machado’s accusations are plausible. More than plausible, in fact, as some of the harassment happened in front of the camera, which underscores Trump’s habit not only of bullying people, but of turning that bullying into a spectacle.

Additionally, if all the allegations against Machado are true, they would not necessarily undermine her accusations against Trump. People should not sit off in priggish judgment of her life, or assume she’s a liar because she made mistakes when she was younger.

But that doesn’t mean that her life, which has been reported on extensively in the Spanish language press, should be sanitized and whitewashed by the press. The political media is not in the beatification business; if it’s out there, readers deserve to know it.

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fj1200
10-02-2016, 02:55 PM
Is it relevant?

Kathianne
10-02-2016, 04:12 PM
Is it relevant?

I'm just wondering how long folks want this story out front? If he'd just not risen to the bait...:laugh:

Elessar
10-02-2016, 07:15 PM
I'm just wondering how long folks want this story out front? If he'd just not risen to the bait...:laugh:

Well...should he ignore it like the Clinton's do so often?

liberals do not like facts placed in their laps.

Kathianne
10-02-2016, 07:47 PM
Well...should he ignore it like the Clinton's do so often?

liberals do not like facts placed in their laps.

Fine with me, applaud his keeping it upfront center.

fj1200
10-03-2016, 09:13 AM
Well...should he ignore it like the Clinton's do so often?

liberals do not like facts placed in their laps.

If it keeps him from getting elected... Yes. You do know the goal right?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
10-03-2016, 09:41 AM
Fine with me, applaud his keeping it upfront center.

Trump's great problem is whether or not to respond to false accusations spread by the power on that monster machine- the dem lapdog media or just let the lie stand with no counter or proclamation of its falsehood.
If he openly counters -it gives renewed life to the lie--if he does not counter it, the lie stands and has full effect of it being unchallenged.

My thought is he should stop attempting to refute this crap himself.
Instead have a special team to debunk this stuff and he rarely if ever chime in.
When media asshats hit him with it , have a prepared dismissal unless its wise to attend to (at that time and place) the subject(trap) the ffing leftist media bastard/bitch just attempted to spring.

This huge machine aligned against him, should be vigorously attacked by the Republican party and its allies..
That such is not the case, IMHO points to the deepest and darkest corruption/rot so prevalent in Washington and the Mainstream media!!
As she, a well known corrupt and despotic type, should not have even have a tenth of the support she has!!
If that ffing maggot wins--this nation will fall, it will be much sooner rather than later.....
You mark my words.....
I was dead on right about the destruction the obama would bring, dead on right about the rise of China-its power and opposition to us and our security and about Islam and its course pursued(again our nation's destruction)...

Trump- , even if not the best, is by far the best between those two. How any sane person can deny that fact baffles the living hell out of me.. --Tyr

Kathianne
10-03-2016, 10:05 AM
Trump's great problem is whether or not to respond to false accusations spread by the power on that monster machine- the dem lapdog media or just let the lie stand with no counter or proclamation of its falsehood.
If he openly counters -it gives renewed life to the lie--if he does not counter it, the lie stands and has full effect of it being unchallenged.

My thought is he should stop attempting to refute this crap himself.
Instead have a special team to debunk this stuff and he rarely if ever chime in.
When media asshats hit him with it , have a prepared dismissal unless its wise to attend to (at that time and place) the subject(trap) the ffing leftist media bastard/bitch just attempted to spring.

This huge machine aligned against him, should be vigorously attacked by the Republican party and its allies..
That such is not the case, IMHO points to the deepest and darkest corruption/rot so prevalent in Washington and the Mainstream media!!
As she, a well known corrupt and despotic type, should not have even have a tenth of the support she has!!
If that ffing maggot wins--this nation will fall, it will be much sooner rather than later.....
You mark my words.....
I was dead on right about the destruction the obama would bring, dead on right about the rise of China-its power and opposition to us and our security and about Islam and its course pursued(again our nation's destruction)...

Trump- , even if not the best, is by far the best between those two. How any sane person can deny that fact baffles the living hell out of me.. --Tyr

Actually he hasn't said he didn't say those things, they have it on tape. Granted they're ignoring that he kept her on when he didn't have to, but he's not bringing that up either.

His position is she's a bad person, thus it's ok what he said.

fj1200
10-03-2016, 12:11 PM
I'm confused as to what the false accusations are? :dunno:

jimnyc
10-03-2016, 01:19 PM
I don't think she is relevant. I don't think her past is relevant. BUT - when someone is trying to harm another based on things from many years ago, I do think having that persons background and character called into question is legit. And her motives. I have zero doubt that Hillary's campaign is behind it all. At the same time, unless someone is continuing to push the issue, it IS best to just let it ride.

revelarts
10-03-2016, 01:57 PM
SO, it's perfectly fine to call a young woman miss piggy and fat if it's going to cost you money.
And it's perfectly fine to call a latino woman miss house keeping.
As long as she's ends up acting badly ...some time later in life.... and the wrong person brings it up.
that makes it OK? perfectly fine or at least not so bad?
I just want to be clear here.

jimnyc
10-03-2016, 03:09 PM
SO, it's perfectly fine to call a young woman miss piggy and fat if it's going to cost you money.
And it's perfectly fine to call a latino woman miss house keeping.
As long as she's ends up acting badly ...some time later in life.... and the wrong person brings it up.
that makes it OK? perfectly fine or at least not so bad?
I just want to be clear here.

Not looking for other threads and/or reading back in this one. Who is saying it's ok? I think he's wrong and never said otherwise. I'll let those folks answer for themselves.

But this is part of the issue, for example. Some are more interested in Trump's comments from 20 years ago and little to no interest in who she is and her motives. Asking those questions doesn't mean that one is saying that Trump was OK for saying what he did. This is likely part of the reason why the dumbo lashed out in the middle of the night, because most are going after him and not questioning any motives, which obviously come from the Clinton camp.

He was wrong, and I see that. At the same time, I couldn't care less about his comments, no more than I did about his more recent comments about the piggy Rosie.

revelarts
10-03-2016, 06:23 PM
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He was wrong, and I see that. At the same time, I couldn't care less about his comments, no more than I did about his more recent comments about the piggy Rosie.

Well I have to ask why do you have a problem with Clinton calling Some Trump supporters 'deplorable'?
there has been a LOT of commentary about it. seems like Trump supports don't like being called names but
you say you don't CARE if Trump calls others names.

It's just weird that people are so willing to ignore the faults of their guy, while wanting the heads of others that do the same.

And based on your reply if someone started a thread called "deporables" and posted a lot of ugly/criminal things Trump supporters have done in their lives.
And was righteously indignant about how the MSM is IGNORING the horror stories of so many deplorables that Clinton mentioned.
And could care less about the fact that she said it... about the deplorable @#&$#@s.
well that'd be perfectly reasonable too.

jimnyc
10-03-2016, 06:26 PM
Well I have to ask why do you have a problem with Clinton calling Some Trump supporters 'deplorable'?
there has been a LOT of commentary about it. seems like Trump supports don't like being called names but
you say you don't CARE if Trump calls others names.


It's just weird what people are willing to ignore the fault their guy, while wanting the heads of other that do the same.

Based on your reply if someone started a thread called "deporables" and posted a lot of ugly things Trump supporters did. and was righteous indignant about how the MSM is IGNORING the horror stories of so many deplorables that Clinton mentioned. And Cared less about the fact that she said it.
well that'd be reasonable too.

First off, I already just stated that I DO find an issue if he was calling this woman names. So not sure why you are once again saying I don't care. Just looking for a reason to rant, perhaps?

Here, what I JUST WROTE:


Not looking for other threads and/or reading back in this one. Who is saying it's ok? I think he's wrong and never said otherwise. I'll let those folks answer for themselves.

jimnyc
10-03-2016, 06:28 PM
Please, rather than try and point fingers and call folks hypocrites - read the messages thoroughly.

Perianne
10-03-2016, 06:42 PM
Machado was a whore, porn star, and a criminal. She is this political season's Sandra Fluke.

revelarts
10-03-2016, 06:51 PM
I think he's wrong and never said otherwise.
This is likely part of the reason why the dumbo lashed out....
He was wrong, and I see that. At the same time, I couldn't care less about his comments, no more than I did about his more recent comments about the piggy Rosie.


"...he was wrong..." but "...i couldn't care less..."
I'm not putting words in your mouth jim or removing any.
I'm just pointing out the inherent conflict in theses statements.
Seems to me saying it's wrong then doing it yourself, and saying you don't CARE if what he's said is wrong or not. pretty much speaks for itself.

Also i just find it weird that being called deplorable is a problem for so many Trump supporters.
While Trump's name calling is to be ignored that is 'CARED LESS ABOUT"... though "wrong" ... dumbo, piggy, housekeeping -snicker-wink... now whore, criminal, etc
Plus no one here felt compelled to dig up the many foul and criminal acts of Trumps supporters as a light cover or deflection for Clinton's statements.

that's it.

jimnyc
10-03-2016, 07:12 PM
I've got no issues with my stances. I don't think it's cool of either side and have stated as much. If you want to read into things more so that you can point at Trump supporters, so be it. But I think I was clear. Maybe others will state differently.

jimnyc
10-03-2016, 07:13 PM
Btw, while no name calling is cool I suppose - big difference between calling a few folks a name over direct issues - as opposed to millions and millions of unknown folks.

gabosaurus
10-03-2016, 08:28 PM
Machado was a whore, porn star, and a criminal. She is this political season's Sandra Fluke.

Why are we attacking the victim here? Trump is shaming a woman for nothing more than gaining weight. Yet she is being investigated as if she did something wrong.
And no one is attacking Melania Trump for being a willing trophy wife, a liar, a fraud and little more than an eye candy accessory.

This is pretty much the Trump MO. He lies and then attacks those who report on the lies.

Elessar
10-03-2016, 09:51 PM
Why are we attacking the victim here? Trump is shaming a woman for nothing more than gaining weight. Yet she is being investigated as if she did something wrong.
And no one is attacking Melania Trump for being a willing trophy wife, a liar, a fraud and little more than an eye candy accessory.

This is pretty much the Trump MO. He lies and then attacks those who report on the lies.

But who is exaggerating? Is it the anti-Trump camp, or Trump himself?

You know damn well the MSM will dig up anything, twist it, just to get the liberals to look great.

Straw argument. Let's stay in the here and now

revelarts
10-04-2016, 08:24 AM
Btw, while no name calling is cool I suppose - big difference between calling a few folks a name over direct issues - as opposed to millions and millions of unknown folks.

Ok sure maybe, Millions of unknown folks likes Mexicans and Muslims right?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZNBDBRHdwc
He said some are ok and Hillary said only what? like some% of trump supporters are deplorable.

"'Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on,' a campaign press release said.
Trump, who has previously called for surveillance against mosques and said he was open to establishing a database for all Muslims living in the U.S.,"


.
Hillary calling for a ban on, deporting or a wall against deplorables, maybe a database of deplorables?
that seems even worse than just the name calling right?