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Elessar
10-12-2016, 07:07 PM
And Obama does nothing:

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/10/12/us-officials-us-navy-destroyer-again-targeted-by-missiles-from/21581230/

Good that the skipper invoked his standing ROE and fired back.

Kathianne
10-12-2016, 07:14 PM
Next time they should sink them. This cannot be tolerated.

Elessar
10-12-2016, 07:25 PM
Next time they should sink them. This cannot be tolerated.

Absolutely. That right to defend is part of International Law (IMO - International Maritime Organization)
as well as our Roe for defense.

Iran is not a signatory on the IMO, by the way.

Kathianne
10-12-2016, 07:28 PM
Absolutely. That right to defend is part of International Law (IMO - International Maritime Organization)
as well as our Roe for defense.

Iran is not a signatory on the IMO, by the way.

This is an escalation. We never did respond to USS Cole.

aboutime
10-12-2016, 07:45 PM
The day the USS Cole was bombed that killed 17 Americans, and EVERY attack on any U.S.NAVY ship is......"AN ACT OF WAR" against the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Bill Clinton did nothing in 2000, and Obama is showing exactly what Hillary WON'T do if she somehow becomes the CIC.

I learned, during my SHORT 30 years in the Navy, and during TWO WARS, THAT Any attack on a SHIP OF THE UNITED STATES.....IS AN ACT OF WAR.

U.S. Navy ships are treated, and recognized just as U.S. States are recognized.

OUR PEOPLE in uniform are prevented from DEFENDING their ships by the WUSSIES in Washington.

Russ
10-12-2016, 08:46 PM
By not firing back, we're just guaranteeing that more ships will get fired on, possibly with massive casualties. And, of course, all the bad guys in the world get emboldened against the USA. Obama needs to grow a spine.

Elessar
10-12-2016, 09:09 PM
This is an escalation. We never did respond to USS Cole.

No, we did not. Democrat - liberal - in the White House then. Guess who?

Elessar
10-12-2016, 09:09 PM
By not firing back, we're just guaranteeing that more ships will get fired on, possibly with massive casualties. And, of course, all the bad guys in the world get emboldened against the USA. Obama needs to grow a spine.

Worms do not have spines, Russ!

Even a CWIZ can decimate a gunboat, as can a .25mm deck gun.

aboutime
10-12-2016, 09:39 PM
By not firing back, we're just guaranteeing that more ships will get fired on, possibly with massive casualties. And, of course, all the bad guys in the world get emboldened against the USA. Obama needs to grow a spine.


Russ. AGREED on Obama. Our navy has the instant power, and protection to destroy everything those idiots shoot, or throw at us.
The major problem is....OUR Rules of Engagement (ROE). Obama, and Congress are afraid some of Obama's Muslim Brotherhood friends might get hurt if OUR NAVY responds in kind.
Remember? We have been at WAR....legally since the 1st Gulf War. There was never any TREATY signed at the end of Operation Desert Storm. http://www.history.com/topics/persian-gulf-war
THAT'S A FACT. And when Clinton did nothing but sick the Justice Dept/FBI on whoever bombed the U.S.S. Cole instead of declaring a LEGAL, and INTERNATIONALLY Sanctioned Response.
That was when OBL grew his new set of BALLS...and Obama just played with his.

Abbey Marie
10-12-2016, 09:52 PM
Had the missiles been launched by a Christian group, Lil' O would have sprung into action.

aboutime
10-12-2016, 09:54 PM
Had the missiles been launched by a Christian group, Lil' O would have sprung into action.


Abbey. Which raises the question....How effective can Obama be throwing mud at a wall?:laugh:

Elessar
10-12-2016, 10:58 PM
Abbey. Which raises the question....How effective can Obama be throwing mud at a wall?:laugh:

More like he mixes it with cow shit, AT. But never hits the mark.

pete311
10-12-2016, 11:29 PM
We just hit some radar sites in Yemen.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/12/politics/pentagon-us-strikes-hit-radar-sites-in-yemen/index.html?adkey=bn

Kathianne
10-13-2016, 08:17 AM
While still not 'proportional' it's a start:

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/13/u-s-missiles-take-three-radar-sites-yemen/


U.S. missiles take out three radar sites in YemenPOSTED AT 8:41 AM ON OCTOBER 13, 2016 BY JAZZ SHAW
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CSM
10-13-2016, 08:37 AM
Actually, taking out the command and control system (radar sites) is pretty effective .... that's where the "smart guys" live. The rest are just cannon fodder....

NightTrain
10-13-2016, 08:53 AM
Plus, the Houthi rebels certainly don't have the know-how or money to rebuild radar infrastructure.

CSM
10-13-2016, 09:19 AM
Plus, the Houthi rebels certainly don't have the know-how or money to rebuild radar infrastructure.

Yep. Without those radars, the bad guys might as well turn those missiles into lawn gnomes....

aboutime
10-13-2016, 06:39 PM
Bout time the U.S. Showed our power to show reciprocation over there. Those radar sites should be JUST THE BEGINNING of how our strength can be used against those who feel like fighting, and playing with fire.
Of course, they know. They still do not fear Obama. Someone in the Pentagon with brains, and unafraid of losing their retirement put this action into effect. BUT....as usual. We can all expect OBAMA and Kerry to stick their big LIE machine into the fray, and take credit for what took place.
Obama still hasn't changed the ROE's.

Those Captains, and ships crews are still under constant, daily threat. If their rockets can't be launched. I suspect they will try the small, high-speed boats, and possibly....even try mining that area.

Put nothing past them. They enjoy GIVING THE FINGER TO OBAMA.

Elessar
10-13-2016, 06:58 PM
Bout time the U.S. Showed our power to show reciprocation over there. Those radar sites should be JUST THE BEGINNING of how our strength can be used against those who feel like fighting, and playing with fire.
Of course, they know. They still do not fear Obama. Someone in the Pentagon with brains, and unafraid of losing their retirement put this action into effect. BUT....as usual. We can all expect OBAMA and Kerry to stick their big LIE machine into the fray, and take credit for what took place.
Obama still hasn't changed the ROE's.

Those Captains, and ships crews are still under constant, daily threat. If their rockets can't be launched. I suspect they will try the small, high-speed boats, and possibly....even try mining that area.

Put nothing past them. They enjoy GIVING THE FINGER TO OBAMA.

Poke the bear too much and you will regret it.

I imagine that these ships are at GQ level 3 constantly in that region.

Obama cannot change the ROE, nor can he change the IMO Treaty that says a Naval Vessel
under attack can defend itself. We could turn that region into brittle glass.

aboutime
10-13-2016, 07:05 PM
Poke the bear too much and you will regret it.

I imagine that these ships are at GQ level 3 constantly in that region.

Obama cannot change the ROE, nor can he change the IMO Treaty that says a Naval Vessel
under attack can defend itself. We could turn that region into brittle glass.


Elessar. If anyone other than Obama was in the W/H, I might agree with you about him not being able to change the ROE. But as most of us know. Obama has never let anything like Congress, or the Constitution get in his way when it comes to EXECUTIVE (Unconstitutional) ORDERS.

It seems Obama hopes our Navy, or Air Forces make a big mistake...then he can blame Congress about FUNDING again. That's the excuse he uses more than BUSH being blamed. He always tells his sheeple that CONGRESS is responsible for all of HIS MISTAKES, and LIES.

Kathianne
10-16-2016, 08:35 AM
Seems taking out the 3 radar positions wasn't sufficient:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/uss-mason-fired-again-coast-yemen-officials-n666971?cid=eml_nbn_20161015


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The U.S. Navy destroyer USS Mason was fired on again in international waters off the coast of Yemen, but the ship deployed countermeasures and the vessel was not struck, two U.S. officials said.


The incident occurred late Saturday or early Sunday local time. At least one missile was fired, the officials said.

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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
10-16-2016, 09:06 AM
Seems taking out the 3 radar positions wasn't sufficient:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/uss-mason-fired-again-coast-yemen-officials-n666971?cid=eml_nbn_20161015

About time to make some huge glass parking lots over there. Just a few would do the trick methinks.. -Tyr

Elessar
10-16-2016, 10:47 AM
It seems Obama hopes our Navy, or Air Forces make a big mistake...then he can blame Congress about FUNDING again. That's the excuse he uses more than BUSH being blamed. He always tells his sheeple that CONGRESS is responsible for all of HIS MISTAKES, and LIES.

And why is that? I'll tell anyone why. He REFUSES to work with the Congress that represents the PEOPLE.
He believes HE represents the people and has assumed a dictator position on that belief.