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avatar4321
07-29-2007, 02:01 AM
I know everyone is going to love hearing this one:

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--vandalismquran0727jul27,0,6882662.story


NEW YORK (AP) _ A 23-year-old man was arrested Friday on hate-crime charges after he threw a Quran in a toilet at Pace University on two separate occasions, police said.

Stanislav Shmulevich of Brooklyn was arrested on charges of criminal mischief and aggravated harassment, both hate crimes, police said. It was unclear if he was a student at the school. A message left at the Shmulevich home was not immediately returned.

The Islamic holy book was found in a toilet at Pace's lower Manhattan campus by a teacher on Oct. 13. A student discovered another book in a toilet on Nov. 21, police said.

Muslim activists had called on Pace University to crack down on hate crimes after the incidents. As a result, the university said it would offer sensitivity training to its students.

The school was accused by Muslim students of not taking the incident seriously enough at first. Pace classified the first desecration of the holy book as an act of vandalism, but university officials later reversed themselves and referred the incident to the New York Police Department's hate crimes unit.

The incidents came amid a spate of vandalism cases with religious or racial overtones at the school. In an earlier incident on Sept. 21, the school reported another copy of the Quran was found in a library toilet, and in October someone scrawled racial slurs on a student's car at the Westchester County satellite campus and on a bathroom wall at the campus in lower Manhattan. Police did not connect Shmulevich to those incidents.

Treatment of the Quran is a sensitive issue for Muslims, who view the book as a sacred object and mistreating it as an offense against God. The religion teaches that the Quran is the direct word of God.

In 2005, Newsweek magazine published and later retracted a story claiming U.S. interrogators at a prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, flushed a copy of the holy book down a toilet. The report sparked deadly demonstrations in Afghanistan and protests throughout the Middle East.

Pace University has 14,000 students on its campuses in New York City and Westchester County.

Messages left for school administrators and for officials with the New York and national chapters of the Council on American-Islamic Relations were not immediately returned Friday evening.

Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the national CAIR office in Washington, D.C., has said the organization receives frequent reports of Quran desecrations in the United States, especially postings on Internet sites, but seldom makes them public.

He said CAIR decided to speak out about the Pace incidents because Muslim students are impacted by the creation of what could be viewed as a hostile campus environment.

So what I am to understand. flushing a Quran down the toilet is a hate crime because it violates Islamic law. But burning the American flag is an act of free speech and patriotism. Putting a crucifix in a jar of piss is art. But putting the Quran in the toilet is a hate crime??!?!

nevadamedic
07-29-2007, 02:09 AM
I know everyone is going to love hearing this one:

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--vandalismquran0727jul27,0,6882662.story



So what I am to understand. flushing a Quran down the toilet is a hate crime because it violates Islamic law. But burning the American flag is an act of free speech and patriotism. Putting a crucifix in a jar of piss is art. But putting the Quran in the toilet is a hate crime??!?!

This guy should be given a Congressional Award for Services to his Country not get arrested.

You are right, it's bullshit that they can burn the American Flag but then someone get's arrested for this.

You Sould post this on USMB.

avatar4321
07-29-2007, 02:17 AM
This guy should be given a Congressional Award for Services to his Country not get arrested.

You are right, it's bullshit that they can burn the American Flag but then someone get's arrested for this.

You Sould post this on USMB.

I dont think he should be given an award. The man is despicable. I just think its outrageous he is being prosecuted for something that had it been against Christianity he would be hearing fromt he ACLU defending his right to free speech.

if he stole the books, he should be punished for that. But for hate? its a mockery of our justice system.

waterrescuedude2000
07-29-2007, 02:28 AM
I dont think he should be given an award. The man is despicable. I just think its outrageous he is being prosecuted for something that had it been against Christianity he would be hearing fromt he ACLU defending his right to free speech.

if he stole the books, he should be punished for that. But for hate? its a mockery of our justice system.


No I agree with medic on this one. I am sick and tired of these clown living in our country and expect us to bend over backwards for their religion and or language. I say he should have burned the book though, I say :fu: to the muslims in our country.

Gaffer
07-29-2007, 07:03 PM
He should have just bought a copy and stuck it in a urinal.

Nukeman
07-30-2007, 06:14 AM
Where is his constitutional rights to "FREE SPEACH", if burning the american flag, or even hanging a us soldier in effigy is "free speach" why the hell isn't placing a Koran in a toilet free speach??

This is where I have my biggest issue with Islam. Ohhhh dont desecrete our religious symbols or text but hey we're going to take over the Church of the Nativity and use every room as a toilet and use yoru bible as toilet paper.

This is absolutely dispicabale.....