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jimnyc
11-11-2016, 10:43 AM
Wasn't that one of the campaign slogans?

Is rioting all over the place there way of going high? LOL

Tolerance, we heard a lot about that over the years. It sure is on display!! One might think a few liberals are angry! :2up:

red states rule
11-11-2016, 10:48 AM
Wasn't that one of the campaign slogans?

Is rioting all over the place there way of going high? LOL

Tolerance, we heard a lot about that over the years. It sure is on display!! One might think a few liberals are angry! :2up:

Do he words no justice no peace?

If libs do not get their way, this is a normal reaction

red states rule
11-11-2016, 10:59 AM
Pardon me while I choke!!!!!!

Chris Matthews has a firm grip on the obvious




SNBC's Chris Matthews reacts to people protesting the election of Donald Trump to the presidency.

"I'm always open to the economic argument," Matthews said on the Thursday broadcast of his show Hardball. "I do accept that Marxist tradition, really, which is a good one which is always try to explain elections by economics. And I think it always works."

"How about those protestors," Matthews said. "What would you say to those kids? Most of them in their 20s. I think they do go to school during the day. I think they came out of NYC last night up from downtown in the [West] Village and they marched all the way past Trump Tower to make their statement."

"What kind of a statement is it really there to make?" Matthews asked. "They lost."

"Look it's their First Amendment right," Karine Jean-Pierre of MoveOn.org said. "The country is grieving. Something happened on Tuesday night that people were not anticipating. Donald Trump."

"Regarding these protesters, by the way, these protesters are not exercising their First Amendment rights. They have every right to speak. They don't have a right to stop traffic. They don't have a right to get in the way of commerce. That's not the First Amendment. That's being a spoiled brat. And by the way, what are they protesting democracy itself when they block traffic? We had an election." guest Steve Cortez, a Trump supporter, said.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/10/chris_matthews_on_trump_protests_why_kind_of_state ment_is_there_to_make_they_lost.html

Noir
11-11-2016, 11:44 AM
If libs do not get their way, this is a normal reaction

Whats great is all the folks on the right who are pretending they wouldn't protest / called for action etc if trump lost, even when they literally said they would. Quality.

Libs protesting after result they they didn't want and they're cry-babies.
Cons protesting after result they didn't want and they're patriots.

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 11:49 AM
Whats great is all the folks on the right who are pretending they wouldn't protest / called for action etc if trump lost, even when they literally said they would. Quality.

Libs protesting after result they they didn't want and they're cry-babies.
Cons protesting after result they didn't want and they're patriots.

Yeah. Remember when we burned Obama in effigy after he won?


Me neither.

red states rule
11-11-2016, 11:54 AM
Whats great is all the folks on the right who are pretending they wouldn't protest / called for action etc if trump lost, even when they literally said they would. Quality.

Libs protesting after result they they didn't want and they're cry-babies.
Cons protesting after result they didn't want and they're patriots.

Please list examples where conservatives destroyed private property, assaulted Police Officers, and basically rioted when their candidate lost an election

But I will not expect an answer because they never have

This was not a protest Noir it was a riot carried out by thugs.

And that these spoiled brats crying a river of tears and are emotional distressed shows what a bunch of pampered idiots they really are

What would have happened Noir if Hillary won would have been conservatives would have go up the next morning and went to work. I know that is a ard thing for most liberals to grasp but that is a fact

Probably most of the thugs rioting probably do not have a job

red states rule
11-11-2016, 02:21 PM
Hello Noir

Still waiting for you to please provide examples of conservatives rioting after they lose an election

jimnyc
11-11-2016, 02:25 PM
Whats great is all the folks on the right who are pretending they wouldn't protest / called for action etc if trump lost, even when they literally said they would. Quality.

Libs protesting after result they they didn't want and they're cry-babies.
Cons protesting after result they didn't want and they're patriots.

Can you be a little more specific about WHO said what, and link to where they said they were going to do such things?

Thx

NightTrain
11-11-2016, 02:28 PM
Whats great is all the folks on the right who are pretending they wouldn't protest / called for action etc if trump lost, even when they literally said they would. Quality.

Libs protesting after result they they didn't want and they're cry-babies.
Cons protesting after result they didn't want and they're patriots.

That's a mighty big brush you've got there, Noir.

I've never protested once in my life. Not once. In fact, not one of my friends or anyone I associate with has ever protested. It's stupid and a complete waste of time.

I work my ass off and I vote, and when my team loses - well, that's the way the cookie crumbles. We'll give a better effort next time.

Abbey Marie
11-11-2016, 02:32 PM
That's a mighty big brush you've got there, Noir.

I've never protested once in my life. Not once. In fact, not one of my friends or anyone I associate with has ever protested. It's stupid and a complete waste of time.

I work my ass off and I vote, and when my team loses - well, that's the way the cookie crumbles. We'll give a better effort next time.

Same here.

red states rule
11-11-2016, 02:34 PM
and I can state for the record, that I have NEVER destroyed private property, assaulted a Police Officer, or needed grief counseling when a politician I was supporting lost an election

red states rule
11-11-2016, 03:34 PM
Damn, perhaps we have a British version of Gabby

Toss out some "fact" then vanishes when asked for proof

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 03:43 PM
Damn, perhaps we have a British version of Gabby

Toss out some "fact" then vanishes when asked for proof

Maybe he went to his safe space.

red states rule
11-11-2016, 03:44 PM
Maybe he went to his safe space.

Or he is in group therapy

Elessar
11-11-2016, 03:48 PM
Whats great is all the folks on the right who are pretending they wouldn't protest / called for action etc if trump lost, even when they literally said they would. Quality.

Libs protesting after result they they didn't want and they're cry-babies.
Cons protesting after result they didn't want and they're patriots.

Conservatives NEVER behave in that manner.


Please list examples where conservatives destroyed private property, assaulted Police Officers, and basically rioted when their candidate lost an election

But I will not expect an answer because they never have

This was not a protest Noir it was a riot carried out by thugs.

And that these spoiled brats crying a river of tears and are emotional distressed shows what a bunch of pampered idiots they really are

What would have happened Noir if Hillary won would have been conservatives would have go up the next morning and went to work. I know that is a ard thing for most liberals to grasp but that is a fact

Probably most of the thugs rioting probably do not have a job

Let's see Noir's 'proof':laugh:

Elessar
11-11-2016, 03:50 PM
Damn, perhaps we have a British version of Gabby

Toss out some "fact" then vanishes when asked for proof

He does that quite often. Just likes to hear his lips flap is all.

red states rule
11-11-2016, 03:51 PM
He does that quite often. Just likes to hear his lips flap is all.

I do not if he can hear - unless he got a well overdue haircut

Noir
11-11-2016, 05:24 PM
Maybe he went to his safe space.

Or maybe I went out for the day (:
still out for a few more hours so you gonna need to wait a lil longer ^,^

revelarts
11-11-2016, 05:25 PM
Yeah. Remember when we burned Obama in effigy after he won?

Me neither.
how soon we forget,
hmm I seem to remember death threats from some.

and then we had some of this... peppered throughout Obama's administration.
•Obama-Masked Figure Reportedly Found Hanging From Overpass (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/02/obama-figure-hanging-overpass_n_5432541.html) Missouri
•Barack Obama effigy hanged in Georgia (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/04/barack-obama-effigy-hanged-georgia)
•Secret Service Investigates Obama Effigy in Carter’s Hometown (http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/secret-service-investigates-report-obama-was-hung-in-effigy-in-carters-hometown/?_r=0)
• Fan brings effigy of Obama on noose to Wisconsin game (http://thecomeback.com/ncaa/fan-brings-effigy-of-president-obama-hung-on-a-noose-into-wisconsin-game.html)
• Viral Obama Effigy Hanging By Noose Originated in North Carolina ... (http://politicalblindspot.com/viral-obama-effigy-hoax/)
etc etc

but i guess "that's different"

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 05:29 PM
how soon we forget,
hmm I seem to remember death threats from some.

and then we had some of this... peppered throughout Obama's administration.
•Obama-Masked Figure Reportedly Found Hanging From Overpass (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/02/obama-figure-hanging-overpass_n_5432541.html) Missouri
•Barack Obama effigy hanged in Georgia (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/04/barack-obama-effigy-hanged-georgia)
•Secret Service Investigates Obama Effigy in Carter’s Hometown (http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/secret-service-investigates-report-obama-was-hung-in-effigy-in-carters-hometown/?_r=0)
• Fan brings effigy of Obama on noose to Wisconsin game (http://thecomeback.com/ncaa/fan-brings-effigy-of-president-obama-hung-on-a-noose-into-wisconsin-game.html)
• Viral Obama Effigy Hanging By Noose Originated in North Carolina ... (http://politicalblindspot.com/viral-obama-effigy-hoax/)
etc etc

but i guess "that's different"

The hatred is much deeper right now. I think you know that.

revelarts
11-11-2016, 05:34 PM
The hatred is much deeper right now. I think you know that.
like a thought "that's different"

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 05:40 PM
like a thought "that's different"

You're right. I think it's ok when they do it to a nigger.

jimnyc
11-11-2016, 05:41 PM
how soon we forget,
hmm I seem to remember death threats from some.

and then we had some of this... peppered throughout Obama's administration.
•Obama-Masked Figure Reportedly Found Hanging From Overpass (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/02/obama-figure-hanging-overpass_n_5432541.html) Missouri
•Barack Obama effigy hanged in Georgia (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/04/barack-obama-effigy-hanged-georgia)
•Secret Service Investigates Obama Effigy in Carter’s Hometown (http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/secret-service-investigates-report-obama-was-hung-in-effigy-in-carters-hometown/?_r=0)
• Fan brings effigy of Obama on noose to Wisconsin game (http://thecomeback.com/ncaa/fan-brings-effigy-of-president-obama-hung-on-a-noose-into-wisconsin-game.html)
• Viral Obama Effigy Hanging By Noose Originated in North Carolina ... (http://politicalblindspot.com/viral-obama-effigy-hoax/)
etc etc

but i guess "that's different"

I think ALL of that shit is disgusting and should be condemned, no different than the shit of the past few days. ALL equally wrong, both sides. But for clarification, when you say you remember death threats - you don't mean anyone here on DP do you?

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 05:44 PM
You're right. I think it's ok when they do it to a nigger.

Is this your perception of me revelarts

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 05:45 PM
I think ALL of that shit is disgusting and should be condemned, no different than the shit of the past few days. ALL equally wrong, both sides. But for clarification, when you say you remember death threats - you don't mean anyone here on DP do you?

I do too. But I didn't remember those acts so I must be a Klansman.

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 05:49 PM
I think ALL of that shit is disgusting and should be condemned, no different than the shit of the past few days. ALL equally wrong, both sides. But for clarification, when you say you remember death threats - you don't mean anyone here on DP do you?

I am guessing he means death threats against Obama?

jimnyc
11-11-2016, 05:50 PM
I am guessing he means death threats against Obama?

I think so, but clarifying for readers...

revelarts
11-11-2016, 05:53 PM
And everyone on the right was going to quietly embrace and congratulate Hillary right?


...But for Jimmy Arno, the concern about immigration matches his broader concerns about the direction of the country. He's worried enough that on the day we met, he was thinking about whether or not to join a local group.J. ARNO: It's a militia group and should martial law, civil war, whatever, break out in this country, they will uphold the Constitution and rebuild our laws.
INSKEEP: What war do you mean?
J. ARNO: The war that's going to take place when Hillary Clinton's elected - if that happens.
INSKEEP: What sort of a war would that be?
D. ARNO: Your patriots...
J. ARNO: Your patriots are going to overthrow the government.
INSKEEP: Now, to be clear, the Arnos say they have no plans whatever to start a war. But if some kind of chaos should ever come, they mean for their family to be ready....
http://www.npr.org/2016/09/26/495435828/divided-states-of-america-georgia-auto-mechanic

C'mon Seriously you guys are really pretending that many Trump supporters didn't threaten WORSE than a few marches, burning trash cans and broken windows?
Some where talking about "ARMED REVOLUTION!"

link (https://mic.com/articles/157793/former-gop-congressman-incites-armed-revolution-if-donald-trump-loses-the-election#.5H3iNjY7v)link (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html?_r=0)link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/28/donald-trump-supporters-warn-of-another-revolutionary-war-if-hil/)link (http://bizstandardnews.com/2016/08/14/conservatives-warn-of-revolution-civil-war-if-trump-loses/)link (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/11/trump-supporters-threatening-overthrow-government-hillary-clinton-wins.html)link (https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/10/15/donald-trump-warnings-conspiracy-rig-election-are-stoking-anger-among-his-followers/LcCY6e0QOcfH8VdeK9UdsM/story.html)link (http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/yes-the-system-is-rigged/)
But "that's different" to I guess
Killing people if Hillary became president. Maybe even killing cops getting in the way of liberty!:eek:
While i think the lefts assertions of "tolerance" are often hypocritical BS. I can't say the Idea of killing people over an election is exactly "Christian LOVE" in action either. Many of these patriots claim to be Christens and talked about shooting people because they lost an election!

Look Congrats again folks on the Trump win but please don't get carried away with yourselves already. Come down off your high and realize that we're ALL human here... even those on the left...right? And some people go a bit overboard and ..

https://media.giphy.com/media/ojx7TZxQFQdLW/giphy.gif


In other words
Haters Gonna' Hate

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 05:54 PM
I feel like the acts revelarts mentioned are just as bad as the effigy thing, but didn't get the attention/media coverage.

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 05:57 PM
And everyone on the right was going to quietly embrace and congratulate Hillary right?



C'mon Seriously you guys are really pretending that many Trump supporters didn't threaten WORSE that a few marches, burning trash cans and broken windows?
Some where talking about "ARMED REVOLUTION!"

link (https://mic.com/articles/157793/former-gop-congressman-incites-armed-revolution-if-donald-trump-loses-the-election#.5H3iNjY7v)link (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html?_r=0)link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/28/donald-trump-supporters-warn-of-another-revolutionary-war-if-hil/)link (http://bizstandardnews.com/2016/08/14/conservatives-warn-of-revolution-civil-war-if-trump-loses/)link (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/11/trump-supporters-threatening-overthrow-government-hillary-clinton-wins.html)link (https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/10/15/donald-trump-warnings-conspiracy-rig-election-are-stoking-anger-among-his-followers/LcCY6e0QOcfH8VdeK9UdsM/story.html)link (http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/yes-the-system-is-rigged/)

Killing people if Hillary became president. Killing cops even!:eek:
While i think the lefts assertions of "tolerance" are often hypocritical BS. I can't say the Idea of killing people over an election is exactly "Christian LOVE" in action either. Many of these patriots claim to be Christens and talked about shooting people because they lost an election!

Look Congrats again folks on the Trump win but please don't get carried away with yourselves already. Come down off your high and realize that we're ALL human here... even those on the left...right? And some people go a bit overboard and ..

https://media.giphy.com/media/ojx7TZxQFQdLW/giphy.gif


In other words
Haters Gonna' Hate

Ive never seen this level of hatred. My dad they used to burn Nixon in effigy , so that is not unprecedented. I suppose I didn't come through the 60s, so I can't compare the two.

revelarts
11-11-2016, 06:00 PM
I think ALL of that shit is disgusting and should be condemned, no different than the shit of the past few days. ALL equally wrong, both sides. But for clarification, when you say you remember death threats - you don't mean anyone here on DP do you?
Jim, No.
I'd name names, or say directly something like "some on this board" if i did Jim.
not sure why you'd go there.

But if i'm not mistaken... and i could be... I think Tyr has come very close to death threats against Obama. But As I say i could be completely wrong.
But i had NO ONE here in mind AT ALL. Just news reports in the weeks PRECEDING and AFTER BOTH Obama's elections.

Elessar
11-11-2016, 06:01 PM
And everyone on the right was going to quietly embrace and congratulate Hillary right?



C'mon Seriously you guys are really pretending that many Trump supporters didn't threaten WORSE that a few marches, burning trash cans and broken windows?
Some where talking about "ARMED REVOLUTION!"

link (https://mic.com/articles/157793/former-gop-congressman-incites-armed-revolution-if-donald-trump-loses-the-election#.5H3iNjY7v)link (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html?_r=0)link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/28/donald-trump-supporters-warn-of-another-revolutionary-war-if-hil/)link (http://bizstandardnews.com/2016/08/14/conservatives-warn-of-revolution-civil-war-if-trump-loses/)link (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/11/trump-supporters-threatening-overthrow-government-hillary-clinton-wins.html)link (https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/10/15/donald-trump-warnings-conspiracy-rig-election-are-stoking-anger-among-his-followers/LcCY6e0QOcfH8VdeK9UdsM/story.html)link (http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/yes-the-system-is-rigged/)
But "that's different" to I guess
Killing people if Hillary became president. Maybe even killing cops getting in the way of liberty!:eek:
While i think the lefts assertions of "tolerance" are often hypocritical BS. I can't say the Idea of killing people over an election is exactly "Christian LOVE" in action either. Many of these patriots claim to be Christens and talked about shooting people because they lost an election!

Look Congrats again folks on the Trump win but please don't get carried away with yourselves already. Come down off your high and realize that we're ALL human here... even those on the left...right? And some people go a bit overboard and ..

In other words
Haters Gonna' Hate

I, for one, would still like to see the violent and damaging riots that Noir has suggested.

jimnyc
11-11-2016, 06:03 PM
JIm, No.
I'd name names, or say directly something like"some on this board" if i did Jim.
not sure why you'd go there.

I went there for clarification. You worded it as if perhaps you remember folks here doing/saying as much. Rather than confusing readers, or guests, I wanted clarification that the members here weren't doing such.

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 06:03 PM
I, for one, would still like to see the violent and damaging riots that Noir has suggested.

Yeah. Sane here. There are incidents here and there with every President. This is widespread.

aboutime
11-11-2016, 06:25 PM
Jim, No.
I'd name names, or say directly something like "some on this board" if i did Jim.
not sure why you'd go there.

But if i'm not mistaken... and i could be... I think Tyr has come very close to death threats against Obama. But As I say i could be completely wrong.
But i had NO ONE here in mind AT ALL. Just news reports in the weeks PRECEDING and AFTER BOTH Obama's elections.


Okay rev. Since you seem afraid to name names, or say anything directly with your liberal sounding accusations. How about YOU coming out and just telling all of us how....
HAPPY YOU ARE THAT DONALD TRUMP, and NOT HILLARY was elected????

Can you do that to ease any thoughts about your hypocrisy?

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 06:26 PM
Okay rev. Since you seem afraid to name names, or say anything directly with your liberal sounding accusations. How about YOU coming out and just telling all of us how....
HAPPY YOU ARE THAT DONALD TRUMP, and NOT HILLARY was elected????

Can you do that to ease any thoughts about your hypocrisy?

I think he prefers Trump to Hillary, but not by much.

aboutime
11-11-2016, 06:33 PM
I think he prefers Trump to Hillary, but not by much.


That may be true, on one side of rev's face. But after reading most of his posts. I maintain that I doubt rev will ever be satisfied with anyone HE has been convinced to hate, or despise. Like maybe, rev is one of those Hidden folks who wouldn't admit to voting for HILLARY.????

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 06:44 PM
That may be true, on one side of rev's face. But after reading most of his posts. I maintain that I doubt rev will ever be satisfied with anyone HE has been convinced to hate, or despise. Like maybe, rev is one of those Hidden folks who wouldn't admit to voting for HILLARY.????

Depends on what you mean by vote for Hillary :cool:. I am pretty sure he voted third party in a swing state.

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 06:46 PM
Depends on what you mean by vote for Hillary :cool:. I am pretty sure he voted third party in a swing state.

Actually nowadays, his state may be part of the blue wall.

Abbey Marie
11-11-2016, 08:56 PM
Jim, No.
I'd name names, or say directly something like "some on this board" if i did Jim.
not sure why you'd go there.

But if i'm not mistaken... and i could be... I think Tyr has come very close to death threats against Obama. But As I say i could be completely wrong.
But i had NO ONE here in mind AT ALL. Just news reports in the weeks PRECEDING and AFTER BOTH Obama's elections.

Def not my style; not my thinking, as I hope you know.

But you cannot deny that the weeping and rending of clothing and protesting and threats to leave are singularly a Dem m.o.

Black Diamond
11-11-2016, 08:58 PM
Def not my style; not my thinking, as I hope you know.

But you cannot deny that the weeping and rending of clothing and protesting and threats to leave are singularly a Dem m.o.
I can't imagine anyone on here threatening that way. Aside from the legality

red states rule
11-12-2016, 02:53 AM
Or maybe I went out for the day (:
still out for a few more hours so you gonna need to wait a lil longer ^,^


Cat got your tongue?

red states rule
11-12-2016, 02:55 AM
Jim, No.
I'd name names, or say directly something like "some on this board" if i did Jim.
not sure why you'd go there.

But if i'm not mistaken... and i could be... I think Tyr has come very close to death threats against Obama. But As I say i could be completely wrong.
But i had NO ONE here in mind AT ALL. Just news reports in the weeks PRECEDING and AFTER BOTH Obama's elections.

Rev if he did come anywhere close to threatening the President, he would have taken off by the Secret Service and probably Jim would have been told to drop him from the site

I thought we were talking about punks, thugs, and spoiled brat rioting because their candidate lost an election

But I do agree if anyone says anything indicating they kill assassinate the President they need to be locked up. But with the left, that seems to be a resume enhancement

Noir
11-12-2016, 03:03 AM
Cat got your tongue?

Nope, as stated in the post you quoted I was away out (:
however in my absence Rev has pieced together some quality replays that have been danced around.
'Hey have you seen Cons burn a presidents effigy?'
'I've seen them hang one'
'errrrrr, name names on this forum'

I'm sure Cons / Alt Right (cute name we now apparently use for racists) would have taken to the streets if Hillary won (violence? Who knows, maybe or maybe not) but regardless they would not be considered cry-baby sore losers etc.

red states rule
11-12-2016, 03:08 AM
Nope, as stated in the post you quoted I was away out (:
however in my absence Rev has pieced together some quality replays that have been danced around.
'Hey have you seen Cons burn a presidents effigy?'
'I've seen them hang one'
'errrrrr, name names on this forum'

I'm sure Cons / Alt Right (cute name we now apparently use for racists) would have taken to the streets if Hillary won (violence? Who knows, maybe or maybe not) but regardless they would not be considered cry-baby sore losers etc.

Wow, you were out a long time (but had time to be logged in)

Oh well, I was asking for your examples of conservative rioting after their candidate lost an election. OK you do not have any because it never happened

The effigy crap is free speech - stupid speech

But it told alot about the little punks on the left, burning and ripping the US flag apart on Veterans Day, probably in front of many vets who put their ass on the line so these piss ants can show the world how stupid they really are

Noir
11-12-2016, 03:22 AM
Wow, you were out a long time (but had time to be logged in)

Oh well, I was asking for your examples of conservative rioting after their candidate lost an election. OK you do not have any because it never happened

The effigy crap is free speech - stupid speech

But it told alot about the little punks on the left, burning and ripping the US flag apart on Veterans Day, probably in front of many vets who put their ass on the line so these piss ants can show the world how stupid they really are

Yeh it was great ^,^ also pretty sure I didn't check back in after midnight or so, so unless my phone was still showing as logged in (because I never log that off?) idk.

You're welcome to quote we're I posted Cons would have rioted. I said protest, and you ran away with that apparently.

Black Diamond doesn't remember the (stupid) free speech of Cons with Obama effigies, or if he did, doesn't consider it the same. Huh.

red states rule
11-12-2016, 03:29 AM
Yeh it was great ^,^ also pretty sure I didn't check back in after midnight or so, so unless my phone was still showing as logged in (because I never log that off?) idk.

You're welcome to quote we're I posted Cons would have rioted. I said protest, and you ran away with that apparently.

Black Diamond doesn't remember the (stupid) free speech of Cons with Obama effigies, or if he did, doesn't consider it the same. Huh.

Again the topic was rioting and protesting. I know liberals and their allies in the media describe destruction of property and burning cars as protesting - but to who live in reality it is rioting

Conservatives do protest. After Obama was elected we wanted massive tax increases. The Tea Party would gather peacefully on the Mall and the liberal media went nuts. They were tagged as racists. Yet the Park Police had zero issues, and very little (if any) trash was left behind to be picked up. MENBC sropped a picture in an attempt to show white racists were carying guns to a Tea Party rally. Turned out it was ablack guy who had a leagl permit to carry his gun

So yiu see Noir, as usual you are full of it as you try to spin the illegals behavior of those fragile little snow flakes whose candidate lost an election

Black Diamond
11-12-2016, 04:18 AM
Yeh it was great ^,^ also pretty sure I didn't check back in after midnight or so, so unless my phone was still showing as logged in (because I never log that off?) idk.

You're welcome to quote we're I posted Cons would have rioted. I said protest, and you ran away with that apparently.

Black Diamond doesn't remember the (stupid) free speech of Cons with Obama effigies, or if he did, doesn't consider it the same. Huh.

I never said it wasn't the same, you jackass. Burning in effigy is wrong and should be considered the same as saying you're going to kill the President or President elect. And I don't give a rat's ass if it's Obama or Trump.

red states rule
11-12-2016, 04:20 AM
I never said it wasn't the same, you jackass. Burning in effigy is wrong and should be considered the same as saying you're going to kill the President or President elect. And I don't give a rat's ass if it's Obama or Trump.


Seems we do indeed have a British version of Gabby

It is clear Noir is a graduate of the Nevile Chamberlain School of Politics

Noir
11-12-2016, 05:01 AM
I never said it wasn't the same, you jackass. Burning in effigy is wrong and should be considered the same as saying you're going to kill the President or President elect. And I don't give a rat's ass if it's Obama or Trump.

Then we're grand -


Yeah. Remember when we burned Obama in effigy after he won?

Me neither.

Burning? No.
Hanging? Yes.

red states rule
11-12-2016, 05:11 AM
The modern day young liberal

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0b/d0/51/0bd05179ac69b829972497053a4b8936.jpg

Noir
11-12-2016, 05:20 AM
The modern day young liberal

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0b/d0/51/0bd05179ac69b829972497053a4b8936.jpg

Ciggarettes - Nope.
Alcohol - Nope.
Weed - Nope.
Lotterry Tickets - Nope.
Sports Jerseys - Once, about 3 years ago.
Hats - Nope.
Air Jordan's - Nope.
Guess I'm not a 'modern day young liberal' hmph.

red states rule
11-12-2016, 05:23 AM
Ciggarettes - Nope.
Alcohol - Nope.
Weed - Nope.
Lotterry Tickets - Nope.
Sports Jerseys - Once, about 3 years ago.
Hats - Nope.
Air Jordan's - Nope.
Guess I'm not a 'modern day young liberal' hmph.


Did I mention any names? Or are you the type of liberal that assumes everyone is talking about you?

It was directed at the poor shattered snow flakes rioting in the streets

and this is directed at them as well

http://static.conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/kids31.jpg

Noir
11-12-2016, 05:29 AM
Conservatives - Complete morons.

Not directed at conservatives here, directed at conservatives elsewhere, if you are a conservative and think I'm calling you a moron you shouldn't assume everyone is always talking about you.

:salute:

red states rule
11-12-2016, 05:35 AM
Conservatives - Complete morons.

Not directed at conservatives here, directed at conservatives elsewhere, if you are a conservative and think I'm calling you a moron you shouldn't assume everyone is always talking about you.

:salute:


No, I tend to laugh you off. You tend o remind me of the son of one of my co-workers. He told me how his son got a job and was told when to report for work.

Well, the kid over slept, showed up very late, and was shocked when he was told he was fired. He just didn't get it

Which takes to this.....

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/af/88/a9/af88a9305b2af505db84167e4fd397ac.jpg

jimnyc
11-12-2016, 10:46 AM
Whats great is all the folks on the right who are pretending they wouldn't protest / called for action etc if trump lost, even when they literally said they would. Quality.

Libs protesting after result they they didn't want and they're cry-babies.
Cons protesting after result they didn't want and they're patriots.


Can you be a little more specific about WHO said what, and link to where they said they were going to do such things?

Thx

Since this wasn't addressed - I will assume it's like Rev's post, where it should have been clearer - and NO ONE here on this board claimed they were going to do such things. But I'm still open to links, I obviously can't read every thread and post here. But I don't recall the conservatives here calling for riots, protests or anything that were are now seeing from the animals on the left. Destruction all over the place, people being assaulted, one person shot, police being assaulted. We saw similar animal behavior often when George Bush was in office. And yeah, we saw some dickheads when Obama was in office, but not even remotely close, not in the same universe, as we are seeing from the liberals.

Obama was elected in 2008 and 2012. It would be easy for anyone to post videos of the nonstop riots and destruction that took place around the entire nation after those 2 elections. I don't recall things being anything at all like this.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-12-2016, 11:46 AM
Whats great is all the folks on the right who are pretending they wouldn't protest / called for action etc if trump lost, even when they literally said they would. Quality.

Libs protesting after result they they didn't want and they're cry-babies.
Cons protesting after result they didn't want and they're patriots.


Cons protesting after result they didn't want and they're patriots.
Which would be true tf the person voted in was clearly unpatriotic, Constitution hating scum and a self-serving
BASTARD AS WAS/IS OBAMA --and would have been true if hillary had won.
Still obama won twice-- did we see such actions those times by folks on the right ? NO!!
Answer is we did not yet you tossed it out to try to defend what these ignorant asses are now doing..-Tyr

Noir
11-12-2016, 05:51 PM
Since this wasn't addressed - I will assume it's like Rev's post, where it should have been clearer - and NO ONE here on this board claimed they were going to do such things. But I'm still open to links, I obviously can't read every thread and post here. But I don't recall the conservatives here calling for riots, protests or anything that were are now seeing from the animals on the left. Destruction all over the place, people being assaulted, one person shot, police being assaulted. We saw similar animal behavior often when George Bush was in office. And yeah, we saw some dickheads when Obama was in office, but not even remotely close, not in the same universe, as we are seeing from the liberals.

Obama was elected in 2008 and 2012. It would be easy for anyone to post videos of the nonstop riots and destruction that took place around the entire nation after those 2 elections. I don't recall things being anything at all like this.

The likes of Joe Walsh was calling for 'civil disobedience' and 'get your muskets' when it looked like Trump was going to lose

aboutime
11-12-2016, 06:49 PM
Conservatives - Complete morons.

Not directed at conservatives here, directed at conservatives elsewhere, if you are a conservative and think I'm calling you a moron you shouldn't assume everyone is always talking about you.

:salute:



Right you are Noir. Which explains why I have saved your photo, to use as an example of Liberal Moron's. It prevents anyone from assuming otherwise.

NightTrain
11-12-2016, 06:53 PM
The likes of Joe Walsh was calling for 'civil disobedience' and 'get your muskets' when it looked like Trump was going to lose


Who the hell is Joe Walsh?

Noir
11-12-2016, 07:05 PM
Who the hell is Joe Walsh?

Vocal radio-host / social media personality, former Congressman, well known in Trump/Tea Party groups.

NightTrain
11-12-2016, 07:17 PM
Vocal radio-host / social media personality, former Congressman, well known in Trump/Tea Party groups.

Huh.

First I've heard of him.

Black Diamond
11-12-2016, 07:34 PM
Who the hell is Joe Walsh?

Eagles lead guitar.

hjmick
11-12-2016, 07:41 PM
Who the hell is Joe Walsh?


Member of the Eagles, duh... Pretty decent solo career... Seriously, that's the only Joe Walsh I know of...



I have a solution, a way to end all this violent protesting by the left, this barbarism...


Give them all a fucking participation trophy and I bet they'll all go home happy...

Black Diamond
11-12-2016, 07:45 PM
Member of the Eagles, duh... Pretty decent solo career... Seriously, that's the only Joe Walsh I know of...



I have a solution, a way to end all this violent protesting by the left, this barbarism...


Give them all a fucking participation trophy and I bet they'll all go home happy...

Publicly give Hillary one, as well?

NightTrain
11-12-2016, 08:28 PM
I was relatively certain that it was a different Joe Walsh than the one who doesn't drive his Maserati anymore. It went 185.

Black Diamond
11-12-2016, 09:04 PM
I was relatively certain that it was a different Joe Walsh than the one who doesn't drive his Maserati anymore. It went 185.

He drove it down Rocky Mountain Way.

Abbey Marie
11-12-2016, 09:10 PM
Who the hell is Joe Walsh?

The guitarist? Life's Been Good?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-12-2016, 09:18 PM
The guitarist? Life's Been Good?
Which was one of my favorite songs! I am a big fan of Walsh his entire career..
He sure speaks a lot to the common man, not in the way Johnny Cash did but
still saying -To hell with the arrogant pricks that look down upon us as they wallow in their own feces..-Tyr

Black Diamond
11-13-2016, 03:02 PM
Then we're grand -



Burning? No.
Hanging? Yes.

Seems the ones rev mentioned were like one here, one there. scattered throughout the country thousands of people protesting an election burning flags and hundreds In a city square bouncing a burning replica of Trump's head.... This is scary. Some of it may be the shock.. he "wasn't supposed to win". (shrug)

Black Diamond
11-13-2016, 03:06 PM
Since this wasn't addressed - I will assume it's like Rev's post, where it should have been clearer - and NO ONE here on this board claimed they were going to do such things. But I'm still open to links, I obviously can't read every thread and post here. But I don't recall the conservatives here calling for riots, protests or anything that were are now seeing from the animals on the left. Destruction all over the place, people being assaulted, one person shot, police being assaulted. We saw similar animal behavior often when George Bush was in office. And yeah, we saw some dickheads when Obama was in office, but not even remotely close, not in the same universe, as we are seeing from the liberals.

Obama was elected in 2008 and 2012. It would be easy for anyone to post videos of the nonstop riots and destruction that took place around the entire nation after those 2 elections. I don't recall things being anything at all like this.
This.

revelarts
11-13-2016, 04:12 PM
If I haven't said it before I have to say that it think these protest are kinda stupid.
Some have been a bit violent, with some vandalism. But it seems many have just a bunch of kids wandering the streets chanting and cussing blocking traffic from time to time.

I've never had a problem with protest even protest that cause some traffic issues. As if traffic issues are major crime, in my mind mind it's not.
(Before you give me the "it's the law" comment please turned yourselves in for all the crimes, large and petty, that YOU got away with in your youth so the book can be thrown at you and you serve your jail time. Until then please just chill over the horrible crime of blocking traffic.)
Vandalism, rock throwing, and violence makes those involved IN THOSE ACTIONS criminals that should be arrested.

Having said that I think these riots show more about ignorance of the politics and the gov't. And as many have said just a chance to vent frustration. It's a frustration that the left seems to express nearly every time they've risen to power and lost it. the left world view to them is the ONLY way to think. and when they get power as with Clinton and Obama as president. They felt all was right with the world. When people on the right or the military speak they expect it to be Unreal, stupid and Anachronistic. Like going back in time. they have a hard time fathoming a significant number of people STILL have beliefs they think are nearly crazy. IMO this is part of why they are reacting this way.
They don't get it and can't process it in a way that tells them they just i have to deal and maybe actually talk to and compromise with the rest of the Americans in the country. I suspect they feel something has been taken away.

There are many on the right that have felt that way as well for various reasons.
And the only way some know how to deal with it is to Shout Cuss and call the opposite number names. And get reassurances from friends that EVERYTHING they think and do is right while the other side is all wrong.

Hopefully cooler heads will rise in the coming days and people don't start throwing fuel on a fire thats NOT made of much substance.

revelarts
11-13-2016, 04:20 PM
Also I'd like to note hear.. and yes sorry i am going to go there.
Many have mention that "the right' doesn't riot, burn, vandalize there own areas.
well it wasn't long ago that some here where saying the 'whites people' don't riot, burn, vandalize their own area.

At the time I pointed out that yes they have in the past and they do today.. and for lesser reasons like football games.. and got some push back on that idea.
So here again we have new examples of "animals" and "thugs" ruining police cars, making fire, burning items in the streets for nights on end no less.
But i'll say not ALL whites are thugs but i wish the GOOD whites would reign those thugs. I think i must be the family or white culture.
BTW why haven't they been arrested?

NightTrain
11-13-2016, 04:29 PM
Also I'd like to note hear.. and yes sorry i am going to go there.
Many have mention that "the right' doesn't riot, burn, vandalize there own areas.
well it wasn't long ago that some here where saying the 'whites people' don't riot, burn, vandalize their own area.

At the time I pointed out that yes they have in the past and they do today.. and for lesser reasons like football games.. and got some push back on that idea.
So here again we have new examples of "animals" and "thugs" ruining police cars, making fire, burning items in the streets for nights on end no less.
But i'll say not ALL whites are thugs but i wish the GOOD whites would reign those thugs. I think i must be the family or white culture.
BTW why haven't they been arrested?


Correct me if I'm wrong, because I may have missed that post, but I don't think anyone has ever said that Whites don't riot.

The only accusations of labeling any group weren't racial, they were ideological, were they not?

revelarts
11-13-2016, 04:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I may have missed that post, but I don't think anyone has ever said that Whites don't riot.

The only accusations of labeling any group weren't racial, they were ideological, were they not?
there were many that qualified their statements but a general sense of "fired chicken eaters" etc being naturally more prone to rioting came across and from time to time explicitly. note the "thanks"




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I have to ask... when was the last time a bunch of white people burned and looted a town and otherwise acted like a bunch of Huns for any reason whatsoever?

No, I can't think of the last time, either.

And you have to wonder why white people have the attitude that they do against blacks?

Our first lady is much better looking than yours!



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I suppose i could dig up a few post from perianne that were never rebutted or challenged by anyone as well.

Kathianne
11-13-2016, 05:04 PM
there were many that qualified their statements but a general sense of "fired chicken eaters" etc being naturally more prone to rioting came across and from time to time explicitly. note the "thanks"



http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?47785-Ferguson-Aftermath

I suppose i could dig up a few post from perianne that were never rebutted or challenged by anyone as well.

Some folks haven't a problem confusing the differences between PC and racism. I've thought highly of Karl Marx for years, he does seem more angry than I remember from the past, but this election seems to be having an effect on people. I never thought him racist, though if the above was all I had to judge upon, I'd tend towards that.

Perianne? Lordy. No doubt based upon what she wrote so many times.

NightTrain
11-13-2016, 05:12 PM
there were many that qualified their statements but a general sense of "fired chicken eaters" etc being naturally more prone to rioting came across and from time to time explicitly. note the "thanks"



http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?47785-Ferguson-Aftermath

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I remember reading about white soccer fans running rampant quite a few times over a game.

I'm usually pretty careful with my brush - except when it comes to muzzies. Have I spoken of my dislike of muzzies?

White American rioters... hmmm. I'm sure it's happened before now, but I honestly can't think of any off the top of my head. Nevertheless, that's a moot point now as we look around and see the moonbats running amok. Lots of whites in there from the pics & vids I've seen.


I suppose i could dig up a few post from perianne that were never rebutted or challenged by anyone as well.

You could, but it wouldn't be accurate. I myself did so.

revelarts
11-13-2016, 05:22 PM
Some folks haven't a problem confusing the differences between PC and racism. I've thought highly of Karl Marx for years, he does seem more angry than I remember from the past, but this election seems to be having an effect on people. I never thought him racist, though if the above was all I had to judge upon, I'd tend towards that.

Perianne? Lordy. No doubt based upon what she wrote so many times.
um Kath, Those remarks by KM where about the riots in Ferguson. not this election.

And i've become very reticent to use the word racist for anyone because i can never tell what people mean by it or what they think of it.
(and some take GREAT OFFENSE at the term no matter how it's used here)
You notice i didn't call anyone "a racist" i just quoted a post.
And gave my take on some comments from various people concerning blacks supposed being more prone to riots.
For all I know some people might think those comments by others weren't racist at all.
But some here might think that I'M racist for bringing it up.:dunno:
So anyway I don't know what Karl Marx IS, but i would say that the statement itself is RACIST. And if you notice 4 people here thanked the post.

As i said the term racist seems to carry some different connotation for many people. Going by the comments of those on this board the only people i know for sure that most think are racist are Obama, Al Shapton, Jesse Jackson and David Duke.
For some here i'm not sure if Perianne even fits into that club. Which is just crazy.

Kathianne
11-13-2016, 05:32 PM
um Kath, Those remarks by KM where about the riots in Ferguson. not this election.

And i've become very reticent to use the word racist for anyone because i can never tell what people mean by it or what they think of it.
You notice i didn't call anyone "a racist" i just quoted a post.
And gave my take on some comments from various people concerning blacks supposed being more prone to riots.
For all I know some people might think those comments by others weren't racist at all.
But some here might think that I'M racist for bringing it up.:dunno:
So anyway I don't know what Karl Marx IS, but i would say that the statement itself is RACIST. And if you notice 4 people here thanked the post.

As i said the term racist seems to carry some different connotation for many people. Going by the comments of those on this board the only people i know for sure that most think are racist are Obama, Al Shapton, Jesse Jackson and David Duke.
For some here i'm not sure if Perianne even fits into that club.

I can understand why you'd feel that way, there's been times that I've been upset at some of the things written and have said something, on the board or with the owner. Personally I think that racist or the type of misogynists posts TF used to write are bad for the board as a whole. Then there's the issue of my being offended. ;)

Black Diamond
11-13-2016, 06:38 PM
You're right. I think it's ok when they do it to a nigger.

I apologize revelarts. I was being sarcastic and should have used an emoticon and probably shouldn't have put it this way.

Kathianne
11-13-2016, 07:04 PM
More about the 'spontaneity.' I don't think this is going to be ignored much longer. Calls are going to be focused on Obama and Hillary getting these people under control:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/anti-trump-protests-proof-professional-activist-involvement


Anti-Trump Protests: Proof Of Professional Activist Involvementby Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Nov 13, 2016 5:58 PM

In a story from November 12, USA Today writes an article to discredit the idea that the professional activist community is involved (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/11/12/trump-protesters-resounding-message-no-national-mandate/93712268/) with organizing anti-Trump protests. They invite you to meet the protesters. USA today presents them as ordinary people. However, WikiLeaks exposes them as experienced protest organizers and activists.


USA Today presents the protests as spontaneous, involving people from “all walks of life” – certainly not professional protesters. If anyone in the crowd has protest experience, it hasn’t been since the Vietnam Era:










They come in all ages and walks of life, unflinching and determined to be heard.

Mothers with young children, hoping to impart an up-close lesson in history. Animated college students stretching their political vocal cords for the first time. Aging Baby Boomers who haven't toted a protest sign since their anti-war days in the 1970s.

Ben Wikler, Washington director for the professional activist group MoveOn, is quoted – only to insist that these are not organized protests but an “enormous outpouring of spontaneous energy and concern.”







MoveOn urged Americans to gather peacefully to "take a continued stand against misogyny, racism, Islamophobia and xenophobia." Within hours, about 275 protests and vigils had been organized nationwide Wednesday, Wikler said. "There was an enormous outpouring of spontaneous energy and concern."


So should we expect that everyone quoted in that article is there out of spontaneous concern? Would a reputable newspaper properly identify its sources, noting if they were known activists and organizers? Let’s meet USA Today’s first protester:







Yong Jung Cho, 26, who organized a candlelight vigil in front of the White House on Wednesday night, said about 2,000 people showed up. "Together, we sang, we cried and we marched" to Trump's hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue. "In this moment, the protests are showing the people, the country and the world that we are here for each other."


USA Today presents Yong Jung Cho without any introduction. Is she an average citizen, or an experienced protest coordinator? In a February 2016 email from the Podesta files (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15620), Yong Jung Cho is described as “350 Action Campaign Coordinator”.


...

revelarts
11-13-2016, 07:25 PM
More about the 'spontaneity.' I don't think this is going to be ignored much longer. Calls are going to be focused on Obama and Hillary getting these people under control:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/anti-trump-protests-proof-professional-activist-involvement

Wiki leaks and these other whistle blowers are a gift.
Trump should give them a medal.