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jimnyc
11-17-2016, 11:32 AM
Nothing major, just some shifting perhaps, except for the introduction of Haley and a few others.

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Trump to meet cabinet candidates as flurry of new names floated

New York (AFP) – President-elect Donald Trump will on Thursday meet with more candidates for top White House positions in New York, as a flurry of new names have emerged as potential cabinet picks.

One of the most unusual names floated is that of South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, who according to CNN and MSNBC is under consideration for secretary of state and other posts.

Until now, US news outlets have reported that former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani was tipped for the job of top diplomat.

Media reports suggested Trump might have believed that the 72-year-old’s controversial professional ties — which include lobbying for a Venezuelan oil firm — were too much to secure senate confirmation.

Haley, the daughter of Indian immigrants, originally supported Marco Rubio for president and differed with Trump on several issues, but she eventually came round to supporting the Republican nominee.

Retired general Michael Flynn is being considered for the role of national security adviser — a position that does not require senate confirmation, NBC News reported.

Flynn is one of the few national security experts who strongly supported Trump during the campaign.

Between 2012 and 2014, the 57-year-old headed the Defense Intelligence Agency but left under a cloud because of clashes with personnel and administration officials, US media reported.

Trump is expected to spend the day at his Manhattan headquarters, where he will meet a stream of potential new hires as well former Republican secretary of state Henry Kissinger, now 93.

During the evening, Trump will have his first appointment with a foreign leader when he meets Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

– Five-year lobbying ban –

Rick Perry — former governor of oil-rich Texas and one of the contenders that Trump crushed in the Republican primary — is being considered for energy secretary, The Wall Street Journal reported.

If it turns out to be true, the appointment is likely to raise eyebrows with many recalling an embarrassing moment during the 2011 Republican primary when he struggled to remember the third government agency he wanted to eliminate.

Perry said that when he became president “there’ll be three agencies I’ll end: commerce, education…” The moderator asked if he could name the third agency. “No,” said Perry. “Oops.”

That agency was the Department of Energy.

Another finalist, according to the Journal, is Bill Hagerty for the post of US Trade Representative. Hagerty heads a private-equity investment firm and served as a senior economic development official in Tennessee.

And South Carolina Lieutenant Governor Henry McMaster is in talks for a possible job as attorney general, the state’s leading newspaper, the Post and Courier, reported.

What makes the Trump administration unique is that when members leave government “they will be banned from being a registered lobbyist for five years,” said Republican National Committee spokesman Sean Spicer.

This “goes back to Mr Trump’s goal of making sure that people aren’t using government to enrich themselves,” Spicer told reporters late Wednesday.

Visitors on Wednesday included Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman Bob Corker, Congressman Tom Price, Senator Jeff Sessions and charter schools executive Eva Moskowitz, Trump spokesman Jason Miller said.

Rest here - http://www.breitbart.com/news/trump-to-meet-cabinet-candidates-as-flurry-of-new-names-floated/

Kathianne
11-17-2016, 04:38 PM
I just got home a bit ago, watching Neil Cavuto and they are saying Mitt Romney may also be considered for Secretary of State. Something weird going on, way too many names.

Abbey Marie
11-17-2016, 04:46 PM
I just got home a bit ago, watching Neil Cavuto and they are saying Mitt Romney may also be considered for Secretary of State. Something weird going on, way too many names.

That would be absurd, IMO

Kathianne
11-17-2016, 04:48 PM
That would be absurd, IMO

I kid you not: http://ktla.com/2016/11/17/donald-trump-to-meet-with-mitt-romney-this-weekend-on-possible-cabinet-role/

jimnyc
11-17-2016, 05:19 PM
I kid you not: http://ktla.com/2016/11/17/donald-trump-to-meet-with-mitt-romney-this-weekend-on-possible-cabinet-role/

I don't see SOS specifically in there, but any position being thought of, does it matter?

Part of me can see it like seeing Ted Cruz. Finding a way to put the negativity behind them, and then using what they both have to help the party/office. But what is Romney specifically going to offer is my first question? Would he be able to reach across the aisle without screwing us?

And honestly, me 'personally', my first thought is to tell him to F off and don't give him jack shit. I haven't forgotten that quickly. His press conference and trying to basically end Trump's campaign. I just don't understand politics I guess. :dunno:

Kathianne
11-17-2016, 05:26 PM
I don't see SOS specifically in there, but any position being thought of, does it matter?

Part of me can see it like seeing Ted Cruz. Finding a way to put the negativity behind them, and then using what they both have to help the party/office. But what is Romney specifically going to offer is my first question? Would he be able to reach across the aisle without screwing us?

And honestly, me 'personally', my first thought is to tell him to F off and don't give him jack shit. I haven't forgotten that quickly. His press conference and trying to basically end Trump's campaign. I just don't understand politics I guess. :dunno:

Secretary of State isn't so big on the 'reaching across the aisle' issue. However, of all the names floated, with the exception of Bolton, who might not get confirmed, Romney is the only one with some diplomatic experience no matter how limited. He was in charge of the Olympics and that does take some diplomacy.

Still, I'm perplexed if this is anything but a troll act. I was harsh on Trump, but Romney beat me by a mile!

jimnyc
11-17-2016, 05:33 PM
Secretary of State isn't so big on the 'reaching across the aisle' issue. However, of all the names floated, with the exception of Bolton, who might not get confirmed, Romney is the only one with some diplomatic experience no matter how limited. He was in charge of the Olympics and that does take some diplomacy.

Still, I'm perplexed if this is anything but a troll act. I was harsh on Trump, but Romney beat me by a mile!

Honestly, I truly don't know what to think of a few of these. My personal feelings are getting in the way. I guess that's why they have teams of advisors and what not. If me, I advise him to toss Romney off the top of Trump Tower. :)

Kathianne
11-17-2016, 05:39 PM
Honestly, I truly don't know what to think of a few of these. My personal feelings are getting in the way. I guess that's why they have teams of advisors and what not. If me, I advise him to toss Romney off the top of Trump Tower. :)

Cruz has the smarts to do it, he'd study the shit out of anyplace and anybody he would have to deal with. It still is a strange float of a possible nominee. Now folks might disagree with me on Cruz, but I still think he had been more than decent to Trump-granted he thought Trump would tank eventually-but was savaged by Trump. Then came the very weird endorsement, but 'vote your conscience.' Very strange. Now this? I'm not making predictions here, but when Nikki Haley is in the mix, all bets are off for me.

None of us even mentioned that Giuliani has all but said, "Pick me!" Then, look at Christie.

jimnyc
11-17-2016, 05:43 PM
I would like to see Cruz get the position. I think he would be a very solid choice.

Black Diamond
11-17-2016, 05:49 PM
Honestly, I truly don't know what to think of a few of these. My personal feelings are getting in the way. I guess that's why they have teams of advisors and what not. If me, I advise him to toss Romney off the top of Trump Tower. :)

From 47% of the way up.

Black Diamond
11-17-2016, 05:56 PM
I can't stand Romney, but here's the other side:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/17/donald-trumps-flirtation-with-mitt-romney-is-very-smart/

jimnyc
11-17-2016, 06:00 PM
Romney and Trump to discuss secretary of state position, NBC source says

Former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney will meet with Donald Trump this weekend to discuss the secretary of state position, a source close to the president-elect with direct knowledge of his thinking told NBC News.

In March, the former Massachusetts governor called Trump "a phony" and "a fraud" when discussing the then-candidate. Trump, who endorsed Romney in 2012, has called him a loser, adding that Romney begged for his endorsement and "would've dropped to his knees" for it. He has also said that he "choked like a dog" during his 2012 presidential campaign against President Barack Obama.

During the primaries, Romney campaigned with Ohio Gov. John Kasich in the Buckeye State. Last week after the election, however, Romney called Trump to congratulate him on his surprise win.

Others reportedly under consideration for the secretary of state position include former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley. Another possibility is Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker, who told CNBC on Wednesday he's "in the mix" for the job.

Separately, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich told NBC News on Thursday he will not be in Trump's cabinet, instead choosing to focus on "strategic planning for the emerging Republican majority."

This story is developing. Please check back for further updates.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/17/romney-and-trump-to-discuss-secretary-of-state-position-nbc-source-says.html

Black Diamond
11-17-2016, 06:06 PM
I had heard he likes to hire people who disagree with him. This would solidify that rumor.

Black Diamond
11-17-2016, 06:09 PM
Petraeus for secretary of state.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/david-petraeus-consideration-secretary-state-article-1.2877886

jimnyc
11-17-2016, 06:12 PM
Petraeus for secretary of state.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/david-petraeus-consideration-secretary-state-article-1.2877886

Now I LOVE him personally... WTF, how many people are up for this position? I know this is a very important position, but is this normal even in the slightest bit to have potentially this many in the running?

Kathianne
11-17-2016, 06:20 PM
Petraeus for secretary of state.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/david-petraeus-consideration-secretary-state-article-1.2877886

I don't know that he can get a confirmation with the problems he had with classified material.

Kathianne
11-17-2016, 06:20 PM
Now I LOVE him personally... WTF, how many people are up for this position? I know this is a very important position, but is this normal even in the slightest bit to have potentially this many in the running?

That was my point, there's so many names floating around for this position. Weird.

sundaydriver
11-17-2016, 06:23 PM
I just got home a bit ago, watching Neil Cavuto and they are saying Mitt Romney may also be considered for Secretary of State. Something weird going on, way too many names.

Mitt said; that Trump was unqualified for the job. Not the loyalty Trump is looking for although I doubt there's a chance in hell mitt would work for Trump.

Noir
11-17-2016, 06:24 PM
See - soon we will have enough candidates for the position that it can only be settled by a weekly elimination, after they have been put through a challenge of some sort.
The ratings will be great.

jimnyc
11-17-2016, 06:25 PM
See - soon we will have enough candidates for the position that it can only be settled by a weekly elimination, after they have been put through a challenge of some sort.
The ratings will be great.

So you can answer my question above... Can you give me a brief rundown on potential SOS candidates for like the past 5 or 6 candidates. and who and how many they took into consideration?

sundaydriver
11-17-2016, 06:25 PM
See - soon we will have enough candidates for the position that it can only be settled by a weekly elimination, after they have been put through a challenge of some sort.
The ratings will be great.

Sort of like American Gladiator?

Noir
11-17-2016, 06:52 PM
So you can answer my question above... Can you give me a brief rundown on potential SOS candidates for like the past 5 or 6 candidates. and who and how many they took into consideration?

I can not, may I interest you in a sarcastic quip instead?

jimnyc
11-17-2016, 06:53 PM
I can not, may I interest you in a sarcastic quip instead?

Sure, lemme have it!

Noir
11-17-2016, 07:06 PM
Sure, lemme have it!

Do you think it's funnier that Trump would appoint "lying" Ted Cruz or "one of the dumbest candidates in history" Mitt Romney'?

Black Diamond
11-17-2016, 07:19 PM
Do you think it's funnier that Trump would appoint "lying" Ted Cruz or "one of the dumbest candidates in history" Mitt Romney'?

Reagan and Bush SR hated each other. Oblah blah wasn't in love with Hillary either.

Black Diamond
11-17-2016, 07:20 PM
I don't know that he can get a confirmation with the problems he had with classified material.

Me neither and it may not play well hiring him for Hillary's position after Trump attacked her for her shenanigans.

jimnyc
11-17-2016, 07:47 PM
Do you think it's funnier that Trump would appoint "lying" Ted Cruz or "one of the dumbest candidates in history" Mitt Romney'?

He wasn't kind to Carson, and look at how close they ended up being. This doesn't mean that everything said was Aok though, and that fences wouldn't need to be mended. I would rather see that be done with Cruz, personally. Politics is a brutal business. Picking out phrases like you did... look at the amount of phrases that were stated against or about Trump - and he's going to be the next president - so obviously we can get past these things.

Black Diamond
11-17-2016, 07:50 PM
He wasn't kind to Carson, and look at how close they ended up being. This doesn't mean that everything said was Aok though, and that fences wouldn't need to be mended. I would rather see that be done with Cruz, personally. Politics is a brutal business. Picking out phrases like you did... look at the amount of phrases that were stated against or about Trump - and he's going to be the next president - so obviously we can get past these things.

Sometimes I wonder if political foes understand when the battle is over, it's just a game.

Kathianne
11-17-2016, 07:55 PM
Sometimes I wonder if political foes understand when the battle is over, it's just a game.

Actually considering they all showed up to meet, I'd say the above is rhetorical?

What was wrong in this campaign was the stuff regarding wives, fathers, and such. Attacking the candidates is expected, the families? Not so much.

Kathianne
11-17-2016, 08:07 PM
Listening to Kellyanne Conway on O'Reilly. She said basically that, 'Not everyone meeting will be in cabinet or a high adviser. Mr. Romney has a wide range of experience. Obviously while he ran for President last time and did not win, there were many things he said that turned out to be prescient. Really makes me wonder if Trump is at least reflecting on all he has intimated regarding Russia?

Noir
11-18-2016, 07:14 AM
Sometimes I wonder if political foes understand when the battle is over, it's just a game.

How many people who voted for trump where aware of this game? and when will the jig be up that attacking 'the establishment' was the key cornerstone of the game?

Gunny
11-18-2016, 09:05 AM
I would like to see Cruz get the position. I think he would be a very solid choice.

He's too moderate. Just another establishment Republican.

Gunny
11-18-2016, 09:11 AM
How many people who voted for trump where aware of this game? and when will the jig be up that attacking 'the establishment' was the key cornerstone of the game?The establishment hasn't gotten it, that's for sure.

jimnyc
11-18-2016, 09:12 AM
How many people who voted for trump where aware of this game? and when will the jig be up that attacking 'the establishment' was the key cornerstone of the game?

It's really simple, SOME will still have to be there, even though personally I would love to see them gone overnight. But of course you want to :poke:at him for each and every person he will perhaps hire that leans in that direction.

And then other threads he is or will be attacked for the folks he hires that have little to no experience in politics.

Gunny
11-18-2016, 09:19 AM
It's really simple, SOME will still have to be there, even though personally I would love to see them gone overnight. But of course you want to :poke:at him for each and every person he will perhaps hire that leans in that direction.

And then other threads he is or will be attacked for the folks he hires that have little to no experience in politics.

I'll:poke:at him. He's going to change absolutely nothing picking the same old names from the same old hat. I thought Trump was supposed to be about change? Something different?

How about some people with bulletproof skin that don't care about what the Dems say?

Cow-towing to a party that has no leadership, is in disarray and instills ZERO confidence ain't going to get it. He ran on not kissing any ass and doing all these bold wonderful things and these names being bantied about don't go with that.

jimnyc
11-18-2016, 09:20 AM
I'll:poke:at him. He's going to change absolutely nothing picking the same old names from the same old hat. I thought Trump was supposed to be about change? Something different?

How about some people with bulletproof skin that don't care about what the Dems say?

Cow-towing to a party that has no leadership, is in disarray and instills ZERO confidence ain't going to get it. He ran on not kissing any ass and doing all these bold wonderful things and these names being bantied about don't go with that.

Sessions is a great pick!! Bannon is a great pick, to me anyway, and definitely change! Hell, I think Sessions is change, and hopefully will be great with the immigration crap. :)

Gunny
11-18-2016, 09:38 AM
Sessions is a great pick!! Bannon is a great pick, to me anyway, and definitely change! Hell, I think Sessions is change, and hopefully will be great with the immigration crap. :)

Romney, Cruz, the lard-ass from NJ --that is NOT change. That's picking from the same old junkpile of sh*t that didn't work. I know y'all "winner" have been having your little tee-hee party, but it's built on a foundation of sand. Trump is NOT popular and anyone using that as a premise needs to clue in.

He's in office more as a referendum against Hillary and people being sick and tired of the SOS than because of who he is. If he screws this up, the Dems will be running on "See? I old you ..." in 20 and we'll never get them out again. Worse, he's got to get those old buzzards clinging to their pensions in Congress on board and they have the same mentality as the "vote for Johnson/stay home" crowd. They'd rather lose than agree with Trump.

He's got no room for error.

pete311
11-18-2016, 11:02 AM
No one cares that Flynn was fired by Obama because of misuse of classified information?

NightTrain
11-18-2016, 11:23 AM
Romney, Cruz, the lard-ass from NJ --that is NOT change. That's picking from the same old junkpile of sh*t that didn't work. I know y'all "winner" have been having your little tee-hee party, but it's built on a foundation of sand. Trump is NOT popular and anyone using that as a premise needs to clue in.

He's in office more as a referendum against Hillary and people being sick and tired of the SOS than because of who he is. If he screws this up, the Dems will be running on "See? I old you ..." in 20 and we'll never get them out again. Worse, he's got to get those old buzzards clinging to their pensions in Congress on board and they have the same mentality as the "vote for Johnson/stay home" crowd. They'd rather lose than agree with Trump.

He's got no room for error.


I highly doubt that Mittens or Cruz will end up on the cabinet... most of this stuff is hysterical speculation by the press.

Cruz isn't part of the 'establishment' anyway... he fought tooth and nail against the establishment. Romney, for sure. I actually kind of suspect a trolling expedition - yeah, we were considering you but since you were a douche, we changed our mind. Go home, Mittens, you're dismissed.

Gunny
11-18-2016, 11:28 AM
No one cares that Flynn was fired by Obama because of misuse of classified information?One, he got punished.

Two, it'll probably matter when an indictment on Hillary comes down. On a scale of disclosing classified info, her violation FAR outweighs his. His is a known quantity and contained. Hers, to this day, is both unknown and probably contained on half the desks of foreign diplomats world-wide.

As far as the Gunny in me is concerned, both should be punished by law, and neither eligible to hold public office.

The rest of me says if she's not going to be, why should he? And if he gets a pardon, he should as well. Otherwise, this is a backfire accusation for the left as it puts a spotlight on the administration's double-standards. Again.

pete311
11-18-2016, 11:40 AM
On a scale of disclosing classified info, her violation FAR outweighs his.

Intentionally sharing classfified information with pakistan is not as bad? lol wow

Abbey Marie
11-18-2016, 11:44 AM
I'm sure someone will attempt to tell me I'm wrong, but I have never seen a President-elect's Cabinet picks under such scrutiny. And so much negative speculation.

I say leave him alone and let him do his job. You will have at least 4 years to bitch about every little thing he does as President. As for me, I'm not entertaining any more of this hyper-vigilant sour grapes premature speculative nonsense.

pete311
11-18-2016, 11:47 AM
I'm sure someone will attempt to tell me I'm wrong, but I have never seen a President-elect's Cabinet picks under such scrutiny. And so much negative speculation.


because he said he'd drain the swamp and he's promoting nothing but washed up same old swamp creatures

Abbey Marie
11-18-2016, 11:52 AM
because he said he'd drain the swamp and he's promoting nothing but washed up same old swamp creatures

Lol, that was actually pretty funny!

Gunny
11-18-2016, 11:56 AM
Intentionally sharing classfified information with pakistan is not as bad? lol wowFocus on what I posted, not your editorialized version of what you decided I meant.

jimnyc
11-18-2016, 11:57 AM
Romney, Cruz, the lard-ass from NJ --that is NOT change. That's picking from the same old junkpile of sh*t that didn't work. I know y'all "winner" have been having your little tee-hee party, but it's built on a foundation of sand. Trump is NOT popular and anyone using that as a premise needs to clue in.

He's in office more as a referendum against Hillary and people being sick and tired of the SOS than because of who he is. If he screws this up, the Dems will be running on "See? I old you ..." in 20 and we'll never get them out again. Worse, he's got to get those old buzzards clinging to their pensions in Congress on board and they have the same mentality as the "vote for Johnson/stay home" crowd. They'd rather lose than agree with Trump.

He's got no room for error.

Sessions and Christie were with him frim the beginning, I'm thrilled with them hanging around, especially Sessions. Romney is the only surprise to me so far, and I would rather he doesn't get a posituon. He is going to have to hire some insiders, folks to help with the ins an d outs of government.

jimnyc
11-18-2016, 11:59 AM
Awwwwwww, liberals don't like the choices thus far, too fucking bad! :lol:

Gunny
11-18-2016, 12:03 PM
I'm sure someone will attempt to tell me I'm wrong, but I have never seen a President-elect's Cabinet picks under such scrutiny. And so much negative speculation.

I say leave him alone and let him do his job. You will have at least 4 years to bitch about every little thing he does as President. As for me, I'm not entertaining any more of this hyper-vigilant sour grapes premature speculative nonsense.

Kind of hard to do when it's all anyone wants to post about. I can get only so much mileage out of crappy commercials and how much I hate doctors and physical therapy and damned pushups. :)

Black Diamond
11-18-2016, 01:19 PM
Awwwwwww, liberals don't like the choices thus far, too fucking bad! :lol:

Yup. Elections have consequences.

Abbey Marie
11-18-2016, 01:56 PM
Kind of hard to do when it's all anyone wants to post about. I can get only so much mileage out of crappy commercials and how much I hate doctors and physical therapy and damned pushups. <img src="images/smilies/smile.png" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" smilieid="1" class="inlineimg"><br>
I was referring to the general public, specifically Dems who are griping all over the place. <br>
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