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Balu
12-25-2016, 03:14 AM
Body of one victim in Tu-154 crash found 6 km from Sochi coast - Defense Ministry

December 25, 10:22 updated at: December 25, 10:25 UTC+3



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Tu-154© Marina Lystseva/TASS

Body of one victim in Tu-154 crash found 6 km from Sochi coast - Defense Ministry.
Documents of Channel One journalists, body of one victim found at Tu-154 plane crash scene - source.




More:
http://tass.com/world/922251

There were 91 persons (Alexandrov Song and Dance Ensemble) aboard a jet, flying to Syria to give concerts.
PIP.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFU3RtzxtSg

Gunny
12-25-2016, 03:22 AM
Did we run off and start a new thread because we couldn't man up in our own? No offense to the girllies here but does that pussy hurt? You fucked with the wrong person.

Balu
12-25-2016, 04:34 AM
Russian Defense Ministry: 92 people were onboard crashed Tu-154 planeWorld (http://tass.com/world)
December 25, 10:21 updated at: December 25, 11:16 UTC+3
Russian philanthropist Elizaveta Glinka, known as Dr. Liza, and 64 musicians of famed army choir who flew to congratulate the Russian air group in Syria with the New Year were onboardShare
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Tu-154© Marina Lystseva/TASS

MOSCOW, December 25. /TASS/. The crashed Tu-154 plane of Russia’s Defense Ministry carried eight crew members and 84 passengers, the ministry’s official spokesman Igor Konashenkov said.
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https://phototass2.cdnvideo.ru/width/333_3412a45b/tass/m2/en/uploads/i/20161225/1157059.jpg (http://tass.com/world/922248)Putin receives info on Tu-154 crash, new details - Kremlin (http://tass.com/world/922248)



"There were eight crew members and 84 passengers onboard the plane," Konashenkov said.
The list of passengers was published on the Defense Ministry’s website. There were 92 people onboard the plane, including journalists, servicemen and musicians of the famous Alexandrov ensemble, an official army choir of the Russian armed forces, who flew to congratulate the air group of Russia’s Aerospace Forces at the Hmeymim air base in Syria with the New Year.
Executive Director of the Spravedlivaya Pomoshch (Fair Aid) charity fund Elizaveta Glinka, known as Dr. Liza, was on the list of the passengers.
A law enforcement source told TASS "Dr. Liza was at the Chkalovsky airport at 23.00 yesterday and said that she was departing and would be in Latakia in the morning." He said that Dr. Liza planned to visit the Tishrin hospital in downtown Latakia where she was last time some six months ago.
A commission of Russia’s Defense Ministry led by Deputy Defense Minister Pavel Popov has departed to the Black Sea resort of Adler in the wake of the Tu-154 military plane crash, added Konashenkov.
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Body of one victim in Tu-154 crash found 6 km from Sochi coast - Defense Ministry (http://tass.com/world/922251)
Debris of Tu-154 plane found near Sochi coast at depth of up to 70 meters (http://tass.com/world/922246)
Nearly 70 musicians of famed Russian army choir were onboard crashed Tu-154 plane - source (http://tass.com/world/922245)
Russia opens criminal investigation into crash of Tu-154 plane (http://tass.com/world/922243)




The Tu-154 plane of the Defense Ministry disappeared from radars at 05.40 a.m. Moscow time shortly after taking off from Sochi.
The Defense Ministry said the debris of the Tu-154 plane was found 1.5 km from the coast near Sochi at the depth of 50-70 meters.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev to set up and head a state commission on the investigation of the Tu-154 plane crash off the Black Sea coast near Sochi, the Kremlin press service said on Sunday.
Putin has also offered his deepest condolences to the families of the victims.





More:
http://tass.com/world/922252

Elessar
12-25-2016, 11:55 AM
This is awful:

http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/12/25/russian-military-jet-crashes-on-way-to-syria-dozens-from-red-ar/21641790/

Black Diamond
12-25-2016, 12:01 PM
This is awful:

http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/12/25/russian-military-jet-crashes-on-way-to-syria-dozens-from-red-ar/21641790/

For some reason, I had a feeling this was intentional. So far, it's pilot error or malfunction.

Balu
12-25-2016, 12:19 PM
For some reason, I had a feeling this was intentional. So far, it's pilot error or malfunction.

The wreck on the 2nd minute after taking off under normal weather conditions, just after report 'all three are green'... there practically could not be mistakes in piloting, only if flaps retracted to "0", or all three engines were cut dead (fuel? The jet landed in Sochi for refueling) or the controls (but the system of controls is triplicated!)
For me there are too many questions.

Gunny
12-25-2016, 01:30 PM
This is awful:

http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/12/25/russian-military-jet-crashes-on-way-to-syria-dozens-from-red-ar/21641790/Yeah. Got to suck.

Elessar
12-25-2016, 05:01 PM
Yeah. Got to suck.

I worked the crash of Alaska Airlines flight 261 off Anacapa Island CA.
Plunging nose down from 19,000 feet, there was no hope of any survivors.
According to U.S. Naval Air Station Pt. Mugu's radar track, it went down from 33,00
feet, leveled off briefly, then nose-dived.

But we did what we are trained to do...go and search. I had a helo on scene
within 15 minutes of taking the Anacapa National Park ranger's report.

The next 4 hours were pure chaos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261

Gunny
12-25-2016, 06:34 PM
I worked the crash of Alaska Airlines flight 261 off Anacapa Island CA.
Plunging nose down from 19,000 feet, there was no hope of any survivors.
According to U.S. Naval Air Station Pt. Mugu's radar track, it went down from 33,00
feet, leveled off briefly, then nose-dived.

But we did what we are trained to do...go and search. I had a helo on scene
within 15 minutes of taking the Anacapa National Park ranger's report.

The next 4 hours were pure chaos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261

I've only been on one SAR I can recall. We lost a Huey off the SoCal coast during a workup. I was more observer than anything else. SAR is not in my bag of tricks at the unit level. I just stayed out of the way of the Squids. I always did when underway. I figured last thing they needed was another pain in the ass.

Elessar
12-25-2016, 06:58 PM
I've only been on one SAR I can recall. We lost a Huey off the SoCal coast during a workup. I was more observer than anything else. SAR is not in my bag of tricks at the unit level. I just stayed out of the way of the Squids. I always did when underway. I figured last thing they needed was another pain in the ass.

A willing and able body is always welcomed on deck, though.

Gunny
12-25-2016, 07:41 PM
A willing and able body is always welcomed on deck, though.

Don't get me wrong. I was always willing to help. My point always was for myself and my little jugheads was there's help and there's in the way. Don't get in the way. I'm WSQ. I'll pull your ass out of the water in a heartbeat if need be. And I could haul a line as good as anyone. But when the pro's are at work, best to just follow orders of disappear.

I helped an Air Force medic I outranked by quite a few stripes with some goof that decided to drive into a pole. For a billboard. But HE was the medic. People don't get that lead, follow or get the Hell out of the way crap anymore. He took charge and I followed directions. I was first person the scene and I took charge. When the doc showed, it was his show.

Balu
12-27-2016, 07:50 AM
Source says no signs of explosion, fire on board crashed TU-154 detectedWorld (http://tass.com/world)
December 27, 12:12 UTC+3
Russia’s Federal Security Service said earlier that no evidence had been found linking the crash to terrorism



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SOCHI, December 27. /TASS/. No signs indicating that an explosion or a fire had occurred on board of the Tu-154 plane before it crashed into the Black sea, have not been detected, a security source told TASS.

"After examining the recovered fragments of the plane, no signs of an explosion or a fire have been detected," the source said.
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https://phototass2.cdnvideo.ru/width/333_3412a45b/tass/m2/en/uploads/i/20161226/1157167.jpg (http://tass.com/world/922476)FSB says no signs or facts that Tu-154 crash was terror attack or sabotage (http://tass.com/world/922476)



Russia’s Federal Security Service said earlier that no evidence had been found linking the crash to terrorism. "The four main versions are an engine being hit by a foreign object, substandard fuel that caused the loss of thrust on and eventually stopped the engines, the pilot’s mistake and the plane’s technical failure," the FSB said.
The plane crashed into the Black Sea in the early morning hours of December 25, soon after taking off from the Sochi airport. The aircraft was carrying 92 people on board including military servicemen, journalists, humanitarian and charity activist Elizaveta Glinka (better known as Dr. Liza (http://tass.com/society/922304)) as well as members of the Alexandrov Ensemble (http://tass.com/society/922420), the official army choir of the Russian armed forces, who were being flown to Syria to perform in front of the Russian troops in the run-up to the New Year.
The plane’s fragments were found several hours after the crash 1.5 kilometers off the coast near the city of Sochi at depths of 50-70 meters.




More:
http://tass.com/world/922696

Balu
12-27-2016, 02:32 PM
The wreck on the 2nd minute after taking off under normal weather conditions, just after report 'all three green are off'... there practically could not be mistakes in piloting, only if flaps retracted to "0", or all three engines were cut dead (fuel? The jet landed in Sochi for refueling) or the controls (but the system of controls is triplicated!)
For me there are too many questions.

The 'black box' has been decoded. The crew retracted flaps instead of landing gear at 170 knots and at about 2,000 feet.
They had no chance. http://s19.rimg.info/c325aed9d7ae9cef783b673e2d993c3d.gif (http://smayliki.ru/smilie-1224807207.html)