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Balu
12-27-2016, 07:47 AM
Putin gives start to gas supplies to Crimea from continental Russia

Business & Economy (http://tass.com/economy)

The pipeline’s total length is 358.7 km, including a two line crossing over Lake Tuzla and the Kerch Strait.



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© Alexei Druzhinin/Russian Presidential Press and Information Office/TASS


MOSCOW, December 27. /TASS/. Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has given start to new gas supplies to Crimea from continental Russia on Tuesday, the President’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Tuesday.

The launch of the pipeline from the Krasnodar region to Crimea will ensure steady gas delivery for all types of consumers on the peninsula.
Putin participated in the ceremony via videoconference.
Read also


Massive power blackout in Crimea (http://tass.com/economy/838429)
Russian company continues gas production on field offshore Crimea despite terrorist threat (http://tass.com/economy/843852)
Expert: Chance of Kiev obtaining right to Crimean oil and gas fields through court slim (http://tass.com/economy/834111)
Chinese business to join oil, gas projects in Crimea (http://tass.com/economy/798438)




Head of Crimea Sergey Aksenov, acting governor of Sevastopol Dmitry Ovsyannikov and general director of Chernomorneftegaz Igor Shabanov also took part in the ceremony in the mode of a videoconference.
The pipeline’s total length is 358.7 km, including a two line crossing over Lake Tuzla and the Kerch (http://tass.com/economy/908884) Strait, as well as a gas pipeline branch to Simferopol which is 27.3 km long.
Putin announced the completion of work on linking to the Crimean gas transportation infrastructure at his annual news conference on December 23.




More:
http://tass.com/economy/922721

CSM
12-27-2016, 07:51 AM
Putin gives start to gas supplies to Crimea from continental Russia

Business & Economy (http://tass.com/economy)

The pipeline’s total length is 358.7 km, including a two line crossing over Lake Tuzla and the Kerch Strait.



https://phototass1.cdnvideo.ru/width/744_b12f2926/tass/m2/en/uploads/i/20161227/1157286.jpg
© Alexei Druzhinin/Russian Presidential Press and Information Office/TASS


MOSCOW, December 27. /TASS/. Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has given start to new gas supplies to Crimea from continental Russia on Tuesday, the President’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Tuesday.

The launch of the pipeline from the Krasnodar region to Crimea will ensure steady gas delivery for all types of consumers on the peninsula.
Putin participated in the ceremony via videoconference.
Read also


Massive power blackout in Crimea (http://tass.com/economy/838429)
Russian company continues gas production on field offshore Crimea despite terrorist threat (http://tass.com/economy/843852)
Expert: Chance of Kiev obtaining right to Crimean oil and gas fields through court slim (http://tass.com/economy/834111)
Chinese business to join oil, gas projects in Crimea (http://tass.com/economy/798438)




Head of Crimea Sergey Aksenov, acting governor of Sevastopol Dmitry Ovsyannikov and general director of Chernomorneftegaz Igor Shabanov also took part in the ceremony in the mode of a videoconference.
The pipeline’s total length is 358.7 km, including a two line crossing over Lake Tuzla and the Kerch (http://tass.com/economy/908884) Strait, as well as a gas pipeline branch to Simferopol which is 27.3 km long.
Putin announced the completion of work on linking to the Crimean gas transportation infrastructure at his annual news conference on December 23.




More:
http://tass.com/economy/922721

I would be interested in learning if there were any protests in the name of ecology against this. I suspect that only in the US are such protests given any news coverage (if they even occur elsewhere).

Balu
12-27-2016, 08:24 AM
I would be interested in learning if there were any protests in the name of ecology against this. I suspect that only in the US are such protests given any news coverage (if they even occur elsewhere).
There are very severe ecological requirements when designing and laying pipelines on the seabed, and they are strictly observed. So there are no reasons for any protests.
You might have known that Russia is very experienced in this field and have laid many pipelines of such a kind among which there are "The Blue Stream" gas pipeline (Black Sea) to Turkey and "Nord Stream" (Baltic Sea) to Germany.

CSM
12-27-2016, 08:31 AM
There are very severe ecological requirements when designing and laying pipelines on the seabed, and they are strictly observed. So there are no reasons for any protests.
You might have known that Russia is very experienced in this field and have laid many pipelines of such a kind among which there are "The Blue Stream" gas pipeline (Black Sea) to Turkey and "Nord Stream" (Baltic Sea) to Germany.

I am thinking that protests such as we hear about within the US are a uniquely American phenomenon... we have some very "special" people here in the US.

Balu
12-27-2016, 08:42 AM
I am thinking that protests such as we hear about within the US are a uniquely American phenomenon... we have some very "special" people here in the US.
You are speaking about "Green Peace". We have their branches here in Russia. But they are very much politically engaged 'sons of a bitch', trying to earn money the way they've chosen. http://s19.rimg.info/aee19e2775457d135efdf745e7d94e15.gif (http://smayliki.ru/smilie-1224821991.html)

Drummond
12-27-2016, 09:05 AM
So let me get this straight, Balu. You walk into a country, effectively take it over, promise the, ahem, 'electorate' that you'll be good for them .. and it takes you YEARS to make 'good' on even a basic part of it ???

If you're going to go in for your imperialistic empire-building, shouldn't you be making advance plans for the welfare of those you intend to rule ???

... or ... did it NEVER work like that ... certainly, never in the USSR-days .. ?

Power is everything. Eh, Balu ? Isn't that correct ? That is central to Russian thinking, I believe, and has been for a very long time. All else - literally, ALL else - comes at least a poor second ...

Gunny
12-27-2016, 04:57 PM
So let me get this straight, Balu. You walk into a country, effectively take it over, promise the, ahem, 'electorate' that you'll be good for them .. and it takes you YEARS to make 'good' on even a basic part of it ???

If you're going to go in for your imperialistic empire-building, shouldn't you be making advance plans for the welfare of those you intend to rule ???

... or ... did it NEVER work like that ... certainly, never in the USSR-days .. ?

Power is everything. Eh, Balu ? Isn't that correct ? That is central to Russian thinking, I believe, and has been for a very long time. All else - literally, ALL else - comes at least a poor second ...

Problem I see is idly sitting by, just as we did with Germany in the 30s while Russia builds an infrastructure that's going to have to br dismantled at a much higher price than if we do it now. Same with doing nothing about ISIS. Seems to be a LOT of major world players with a stake in this game.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-27-2016, 05:43 PM
Problem I see is idly sitting by, just as we did with Germany in the 30s while Russia builds an infrastructure that's going to have to br dismantled at a much higher price than if we do it now. Same with doing nothing about ISIS. Seems to be a LOT of major world players with a stake in this game.
As far as the subject of ISIS goes, Russia-Putin now fights ISIS, AS IT HAS ALLIED WITH SYRIA against the ISIS controlled forces fighting to overthrow the Syrian forces under Assad's control..
Whereas, obama only pretended to fight them. A fact proven , by the obama's order not to strike ISIS command and control center in Raqqa!
Putin came, in ordered it hit with airstrikes and obama had a damn meltdown about it..-Tyr

Gunny
12-27-2016, 05:52 PM
As far as the subject of ISIS goes, Russia-Putin now fights ISIS, AS IT HAS ALLIED WITH SYRIA against the ISIS controlled forces fighting to overthrow the Syrian forces under Assad's control..
Whereas, obama only pretended to fight them. A fact proven , by the obama's order not to strike ISIS command and control center in Raqqa!
Putin came, in ordered it hit with airstrikes and obama had a damn meltdown about it..-Tyr

Point is. he's rebuilding the Soviet Union one piece at a time.

Drummond
12-27-2016, 06:44 PM
As far as the subject of ISIS goes, Russia-Putin now fights ISIS, AS IT HAS ALLIED WITH SYRIA against the ISIS controlled forces fighting to overthrow the Syrian forces under Assad's control..
Whereas, obama only pretended to fight them. A fact proven , by the obama's order not to strike ISIS command and control center in Raqqa!
Putin came, in ordered it hit with airstrikes and obama had a damn meltdown about it..-Tyr

All true, of course. Though ... it became apparent, early on, that Russia was willing to attack anyone who didn't happen to be a friend of Assad's in that territory.

I think that Russia sees strategic advantage concerning Syria - one which serves Russia first and foremost. I may trust what they've done. I'm not nearly so sure about their motivations.

Drummond
12-27-2016, 06:46 PM
Point is. he's rebuilding the Soviet Union one piece at a time.:clap::clap::clap::clap:

EXACTLY. Totally agree.

Gunny
12-27-2016, 06:53 PM
All true, of course. Though ... it became apparent, early on, that Russia was willing to attack anyone who didn't happen to be a friend of Assad's in that territory.

I think that Russia sees strategic advantage concerning Syria - one which serves Russia first and foremost. I may trust what they've done. I'm not nearly so sure about their motivations.

Syria is a gateway to both Africa and the Middle East and the Med. A perfect launch point to go in any direction. We've had it bottled up since WWII, but with these shifts in control and the West doing nothing, that control has eroded.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-27-2016, 06:58 PM
Point is. he's rebuilding the Soviet Union one piece at a time.

Looks to be true, but in this world merging with USA performing as a much weaker player (thanks to obama's deliberate weakening) what else could he do?
With China, N. Korea, Iran, ISIS, etc.making big moves to increase their power, scope and influence on the world stage..

ONE COULD CALL IT STRENGTHENING HIS OWN NATIONS DEFENSES IN AS MUCH AS THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE!
And I know its not that cut and dry, but Putin gets to act without all the restraints built in that we have.
I am by no means defending him wholesale...
Point is he is acting in his nation's "best interests" same as the incoming great President Trump will do..

Blame should fall upon obama and his actions that bought on the recent conflicts==
Nature abhors a vacuum, etc....comes into play. -Tyr

Gunny
12-27-2016, 07:08 PM
Looks to be true, but in this world merging with USA performing as a much weaker player (thanks to obama's deliberate weakening) what else could he do?
With China, N. Korea, Iran, ISIS, etc.making big moves to increase their power, scope and influence on the world stage..

ONE COULD CALL IT STRENGTHENING HIS OWN NATIONS DEFENSES IN AS MUCH AS THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE!
And I know its not that cut and dry, but Putin gets to act without all the restraints built in that we have.
I am by no means defending him wholesale...
Point is he is acting in his nation's "best interests" same as the incoming great President Trump will do..

Blame should fall upon obama and his actions that bought on the recent conflicts==
Nature abhors a vacuum, etc....comes into play. -Tyr

I do blame Obama. Putin acting in his own interest is understandable. Just like Balu is understandable. Doesn't mean I'm giving free rides. Putin is jockeying for strategic control. While we watch.

Drummond
12-27-2016, 07:43 PM
Looks to be true, but in this world merging with USA performing as a much weaker player (thanks to obama's deliberate weakening) what else could he do?
With China, N. Korea, Iran, ISIS, etc.making big moves to increase their power, scope and influence on the world stage..

ONE COULD CALL IT STRENGTHENING HIS OWN NATIONS DEFENSES IN AS MUCH AS THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE!
And I know its not that cut and dry, but Putin gets to act without all the restraints built in that we have.
I am by no means defending him wholesale...
Point is he is acting in his nation's "best interests" same as the incoming great President Trump will do..

Blame should fall upon obama and his actions that bought on the recent conflicts==
Nature abhors a vacuum, etc....comes into play. -Tyr
Obama was a disaster - no question. I'm looking forward to great things from Trump .. :beer:

As for Putin, I don't see that he has any need to strengthen Russia's defences. He might, granted, be thinking along those lines .. because he's falling back on the old Soviet neuroses. But any country possessing Russia's military capabilities needs no additional defences.

Crimea - and their taking over of that territory. I struggle to see how that fits in with any need to strengthen Russia's defences. Then, there's the repeated incursions they make into British airspace ... a lot more these days than just a couple of years ago.

No, Putin is far more explainable as a belligerent than as anything else.

And Russia's 'democratic' potentialities are regressing. I posted on that just days ago. See this, Tyr, and note where Russia ranks ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Gunny
12-27-2016, 09:00 PM
Obama was a disaster - no question. I'm looking forward to great things from Trump .. :beer:

As for Putin, I don't see that he has any need to strengthen Russia's defences. He might, granted, be thinking along those lines .. because he's falling back on the old Soviet neuroses. But any country possessing Russia's military capabilities needs no additional defences.

Crimea - and their taking over of that territory. I struggle to see how that fits in with any need to strengthen Russia's defences. Then, there's the repeated incursions they make into British airspace ... a lot more these days than just a couple of years ago.

No, Putin is far more explainable as a belligerent than as anything else.

And Russia's 'democratic' potentialities are regressing. I posted on that just days ago. See this, Tyr, and note where Russia ranks ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Stragic global resources and control of them. That's what he has to gain.

Balu
12-27-2016, 10:57 PM
Looks to be true, but in this world merging with USA performing as a much weaker player (thanks to obama's deliberate weakening) what else could he do?
With China, N. Korea, Iran, ISIS, etc.making big moves to increase their power, scope and influence on the world stage..

ONE COULD CALL IT STRENGTHENING HIS OWN NATIONS DEFENSES IN AS MUCH AS THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE!
And I know its not that cut and dry, but Putin gets to act without all the restraints built in that we have.
I am by no means defending him wholesale...
Point is he is acting in his nation's "best interests" same as the incoming great President Trump will do..

Blame should fall upon obama and his actions that bought on the recent conflicts==
Nature abhors a vacuum, etc....comes into play. -Tyr
No chance. Nobody in Russia is prepared now to put these 'brother nations' to put on our neck again and let live them at our account.
You see, NONE of former Soviet Republics but Russia was able to recover own economy after the Soviet highly integrated one was ruined. We had to construct own new plants and factories, ports, raise own agriculture, substituting those, remained in the former Soviet Republics. It was difficult, but we managed. The others no. And this is because they are ARTIFICIAL countries which appeared not in a course of a History. A they proved (25 years is a period more than enough to come to such a conclusion) that they are not able to survive independently. They were not able even to keep what they had after the Soviet time. It sounds strange, but the USSR was an upside down Empire where Russis was feeding the others, but not vice versa.