Out of all the hundreds and thousands of women marching and protesting the election..

[Little-Acorn]

.... how many of them voted?

How many worked to get their candidate elected?

And how many sat around doing nothing as the election was held, the decision taken, and they finally found out they didn't get what they wanted? Only to start marching long after the fact, proclaiming "I'm unhappy! Someone has to do something about it!" ?

[Black Diamond]

.... how many of them voted?

How many worked to get their candidate elected?

And how many sat around doing nothing as the election was held, the decision taken, and they finally found out they didn't get what they wanted? Only to start marching long after the fact, proclaiming "I'm unhappy! Someone has to do something about it!" ?
Impossible to know.

If every American had voted, the results would've been the same

[pete311]

The rally for for womens rights with some anti trump and LGBT thrown in there. In total there must have been millions worldwide. I mean in my small state capitol the march had 100k people.

[Bilgerat]

My daughter's been responding to this march with this

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16142923_1287908214588916_5333070807677437843_n.jp g?oh=c5ba88988a3773fd85624af774ee0bed&oe=590A0038

[Kaimhel]

My daughter's been responding to this march with this

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16142923_1287908214588916_5333070807677437843_n.jp g?oh=c5ba88988a3773fd85624af774ee0bed&oe=590A0038
:clap::clap::clap:

I am stealing this! I LOVE it!

[Elessar]

:clap::clap::clap:

I am stealing this! I LOVE it!

Bilge is a longtime friend and a very wise man.:salute:

[Abbey Marie]

My daughter's been responding to this march with this

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16142923_1287908214588916_5333070807677437843_n.jp g?oh=c5ba88988a3773fd85624af774ee0bed&oe=590A0038


I LOVE this!

:2up:

[pete311]

.... how many of them voted?

How many worked to get their candidate elected?

And how many sat around doing nothing as the election was held, the decision taken, and they finally found out they didn't get what they wanted? Only to start marching long after the fact, proclaiming "I'm unhappy! Someone has to do something about it!" ?
btw, you do realize trump lost the popular vote right? by like 3 million

[aboutime]

The rally for for womens rights with some anti trump and LGBT thrown in there. In total there must have been millions worldwide. I mean in my small state capitol the march had 100k people.


And you, pete....stood out, because you wore your Best PINK outfit to match your pink cheeks, hair, shoes, socks, and ID card.:pillowfight:

[Abbey Marie]

btw, you do realize trump lost the popular vote right? by like 3 million


Btw, you do realize he is President, right? For like, at least the next 4 years.

:cheers2:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I LOVE this!

:2up:

Must be true too.
And had President Trump(got to remember to write president each time- as it so pisses the libs off- :laugh:) lost the women's vote, he'd have lost the election, as did Romney to the obama.--;)--Tyr

[pete311]

Btw, you do realize he is President, right? For like, at least the next 4 years.

:cheers2:

vegas odds are 4-1 on him not lasting 6 months. Those guys are no fools :D

[aboutime]

btw, you do realize trump lost the popular vote right? by like 3 million



When will you bother to read the Constitution for the FIRST TIME pete?

TRUMP won the ELECTORAL COLLEGE...according to the U.S. Constitution.

YOU can't do anything about that, no matter how much you complain, or remind yourself, and others...how Uninformed you really are.

By the way. Our President's name is TRUMP. You should keep banging your head on a really hard, stone wall until you get the picture.

[Black Diamond]

vegas odds are 4-1 on him not lasting 6 months. Those guys are no fools :D
I don't gamble. But those odds are ridiculous. You snowflakes will just have to cry and screech for 8 years.

[Elessar]

btw, you do realize trump lost the popular vote right? by like 3 million

Do you realize that Trump won the Electoral College in a near landslide, just as our
Constitution outlines?

Places like California and New York cannot be allowed to dictate over the rest of the Nation.
That is why the EC was established.

Suck it up, Snowflake.

[Russ]

I think it is ironic and kind of pathetic that the Women's March welcomed Madonna as a speaker during their event. Few people in the last 30 years have done more to objectify women than Bill Clinton has, but Madonna is one of those few.

[Bilgerat]

vegas odds are 4-1 on him not lasting 6 months. Those guys are no fools :D

Yes, yes. And the polls had him losing to the Hildabeast

Well, we all know how THAT turned out

[pete311]

I think it is ironic and kind of pathetic that the Women's March welcomed Madonna as a speaker during their event. Few people in the last 30 years have done more to objectify women than Bill Clinton has, but Madonna is one of those few.

So a women displaying her sexuality especially within an art form is now objectification and comparable to a sex predator?

[pete311]

Yes, yes. And the polls had him losing to the Hildabeast

Well, we all know how THAT turned out




He did lose the popular vote. More people voted against him.

[Black Diamond]

So a women displaying her sexuality especially within an art form is now objectification and comparable to a sex predator?
What is a women?

[pete311]

What is a women?
cool spelling police

[Black Diamond]

He did lose the popular vote. More people voted against him.
The polls had him losing the election... Not just the popular vote. He was behind in all three blue states he won.

[Bilgerat]

He did lose the popular vote. More people voted against him.


​And the Founding Fathers thought of this and created the Electoral College

Otherwise, this would be the United Socialist Republic of Kalifornia

[Elessar]

cool spelling police

You are so stupid.:laugh:

[SassyLady]

Do you realize that Trump won the Electoral College in a near landslide, just as our
Constitution outlines?

Places like California and New York cannot be allowed to dictate over the rest of the Nation.
That is why the EC was established.

Suck it up, Snowflake.
:clap::clap::clap:

[Black Diamond]

Do you realize that Trump won the Electoral College in a near landslide, just as our
Constitution outlines?

Places like California and New York cannot be allowed to dictate over the rest of the Nation.
That is why the EC was established.

Suck it up, Snowflake.
I'm starting to think this butthurt will last for years.

[Bilgerat]

I'm starting to think this butthurt will last for years.


4 to 8 years :salute:

[gabosaurus]

I didn't see it as an "anti-Trump" march. I saw as a chance for women to express their solidarity and state that they will not be demeaned or degraded. And as a statement that men should not be passing laws telling women what to do with their bodies.

I went to the Los Angeles march with my mom and my daughter. It was actually my daughter's idea. It was an inspiring experience. Except when my 70's protest marching mom rattled on about how radical I used to be.

Most of us are not protesting Trump's election. We just want to remind him that we're watching. Continuously. :cool:

[NightTrain]

I didn't see it as an "anti-Trump" march. I saw as a chance for women to express their solidarity and state that they will not be demeaned or degraded. And as a statement that men should not be passing laws telling women what to do with their bodies.

I went to the Los Angeles march with my mom and my daughter. It was actually my daughter's idea. It was an inspiring experience. Except when my 70's protest marching mom rattled on about how radical I used to be.

Most of us are not protesting Trump's election. We just want to remind him that we're watching. Continuously. :cool:

Well, now.

It's 1,547 miles between Houston, TX and Los Angeles, CA.

You marched in that parade today and are posting from your home in Houston now. Do you have a private jet?

[Elessar]

Well, now.

It's 1,547 miles between Houston, TX and Los Angeles, CA.

You marched in that parade today and are posting from your home in Houston now. Do you have a private jet?

ISP's do not lie. Take 3 search engines and take the closest 2 out of three,
and You will get a hit. ISP is the modem, and server.

Only the FCC and FBI (and a few others) can do better.

[Russ]

So a women displaying her sexuality especially within an art form is now objectification and comparable to a sex predator?

By "sex predator" I assume you're referring to Bill Clinton, because of the four women who are on record stating that he raped them. Maybe you have a point there - I will restate my post to say that Bill Clinton is actually worse than Madonna, but I still say they both objectify women. I will also say that any Women's March that raises up either of them is completely hypocritical.

[BoogyMan]

btw, you do realize trump lost the popular vote right? by like 3 million

We are a federal republic that doesn't allow the large liberal enclaves on the coasts to override the power of the other states. What part of that don't you understand?

[Drummond]

He did lose the popular vote. More people voted against him.

Even accepting this as true ... you miss the point. The AMERICAN ELECTORAL COLLEGE SYSTEM determined the outcome. Now .. since this is the form of electoral process the US has accepted to be legitimate to use, who are you to 'suddenly' find any fault with it ?

Who, here, believes that if that system had resulted in a Clinton win, you'd have the smallest objection to how she won ?? I don't think you would have had one.

Which means but one thing: you're using that system as a mere excuse to object to a victory you happen not to like.

By the way ... if the Left truly respect democracy, how come they've been unashamed in their public protesting against Trump being President ? Trump was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED TO POWER.

[pete311]

We are a federal republic that doesn't allow the large liberal enclaves on the coasts to override the power of the other states. What part of that don't you understand?

What don't you understand about little acorn's original post which I was replying to? He asked how many of them voted? Likely all and for Hillary. What is the point in asking that? Hillary got nearly 3 million more votes.

[Elessar]

What don't you understand about little acorn's original post which I was replying to? He asked how many of them voted? Likely all and for Hillary. What is the point in asking that? Hillary got nearly 3 million more votes.

You are pissing up a rope. Our Constitution dictates that the Electoral College will be the determining factor.
That way the huge cities will not be lording over the rural and distant populace.

[Black Diamond]

What don't you understand about little acorn's original post which I was replying to? He asked how many of them voted? Likely all and for Hillary. What is the point in asking that? Hillary got nearly 3 million more votes.
I love it that trump lost the popular vote and won the election. It makes you snowflakes whine more. Which makes me happy.

[Black Diamond]

You are pissing up a rope. Our Constitution dictates that the Electoral College will be the determining factor.
That way the huge cities will not be lording over the rural and distant populace.
Four years ago, the electoral college was ruled brilliant. Now it's racist.

[gabosaurus]

We have a sexual predator as president and a Congress with their knee pads on, waiting to serve. THIS is why we need to be ready and willing to protest.

[Black Diamond]

We have a sexual predator as president and a Congress with their knee pads on, waiting to serve. THIS is why we need to be ready and willing to protest.
Keep protesting. Trump isn't going anywhere.

[gabosaurus]

Keep protesting. Trump isn't going anywhere.

As I said previously (since obviously your reading and comprehension skills are lacking), I am not protesting Trump's election. In fact, I am starting to enjoy him. Who doesn't like watching a good comedy?

[Black Diamond]

As I said previously (since obviously your reading and comprehension skills are lacking), I am not protesting Trump's election. In fact, I am starting to enjoy him. Who doesn't like watching a good comedy?
Ok. I will go by what you said and not make any inferences. You said you need to protest because we have a sexual predator in the White House. It will do no good. Trump will still grab you by the pussy.

[GravyBoat]

i applaud the woman's march, tampons shouldn't be taxed, nor should any contraceptive devices be taxed, they're medical devices

there is most definitely a war against women in the united police states of america

:clap:

[Abbey Marie]

i applaud the woman's march, tampons shouldn't be taxed, nor should any contraceptive devices be taxed, they're medical devices

there is most definitely a war against women in the united police states of america

:clap:

Oh Lordy, if a tampon is a medical device, then so is a dinner napkin.
I'm almost beyond words.

[pete311]

Oh Lordy, if a tampon is a medical device, then so is a dinner napkin.
I'm almost beyond words.

You shove dinner napkins up your vagina? Nasty women!

[BoogyMan]

What don't you understand about little acorn's original post which I was replying to? He asked how many of them voted? Likely all and for Hillary. What is the point in asking that? Hillary got nearly 3 million more votes.

And once again, we don't elect by popular vote, so what is the value in continuously bringing it up as if it has some kind of objective value in the discussion other than pointing out a lack of understanding?

[pete311]

And once again, we don't elect by popular vote, so what is the value in continuously bringing it up as if it has some kind of objective value in the discussion other than pointing out a lack of understanding?

Responding to the OP

[Russ]

You shove dinner napkins up your vagina? Nasty women!

What are you, in 7th grade? I would consider you a pathetic twit if I bothered giving you any thought at all.

[pete311]

What are you, in 7th grade? I would consider you a pathetic twit if I bothered giving you any thought at all.

Are you uncomfortable with the word vagina Russ? What don't you understand about my response to abbey's idiotic comparison of a tampon to dinner napkins as a medical device?

[Abbey Marie]

Perhaps we should honor Pete's extensive first-hand experience with feminine products.

[Russ]

Are you uncomfortable with the word vagina Russ? What don't you understand about my response to abbey's idiotic comparison of a tampon to dinner napkins as a medical device?

I'm mostly just uncomfortable with a 7th-grader posting on a debate board meant for adults. Do your parents know you're using their computer? And do they know how much you giggle during 7th-grade Health class? :laugh2:

[Black Diamond]

Perhaps we should honor Pete's extensive first-hand experience with feminine products.
He has certainly needed one for two straight months.

[pete311]

I'm mostly just uncomfortable with a 7th-grader posting on a debate board meant for adults. Do your parents know you're using their computer? And do they know how much you giggle during 7th-grade Health class? :laugh2:

What did I say that was 7th grade? What is 7th grade is all your petty insults and from Black Diamond which I see just sent one to me. That is 7th grade.

[Russ]

What did I say that was 7th grade? What is 7th grade is all your petty insults and from Black Diamond which I see just sent one to me. That is 7th grade.

Pete, you have rarely made a post that didn't make me think you were in 7th grade.

[BoogyMan]

Responding to the OP

OK, feminine products it is....

[Elessar]

What did I say that was 7th grade? What is 7th grade is all your petty insults and from Black Diamond which I see just sent one to me. That is 7th grade.

Your insults are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Maybe you need a week with coloring books and a therapy animal or two.

Quit being a pathetic loser. Grow up.

[pete311]

Your insults are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Maybe you need a week with coloring books and a therapy animal or two.

Quit being a pathetic loser. Grow up.

Pot.Kettle.Black

[gabosaurus]

There are some very central issues to the marches that many overlook. That is the issue of unequal taxation. Rogaine, which men use for hair regrowth, is classified as a "medical supply" and thus not taxed. Same for dandruff shampoo and adult diapers. Yet tampons, which are used by every adult women, are classified as "general merchandise" and are taxable. Because such decisions are made by men who could care less.

[Elessar]

Pot.Kettle.Black

I didn't lose, loser.

Pot and kettle are Copper and stainless steel, crybaby.

[aboutime]

Pot.Kettle.Black


Poor petey...http://icansayit.com/images/crybabys.jpg

[aboutime]

There are some very central issues to the marches that many overlook. That is the issue of unequal taxation. Rogaine, which men use for hair regrowth, is classified as a "medical supply" and thus not taxed. Same for dandruff shampoo and adult diapers. Yet tampons, which are used by every adult women, are classified as "general merchandise" and are taxable. Because such decisions are made by men who could care less.


gabby. When will you run out of liberal tissues? http://icansayit.com/images/crybabys.jpg

[Elessar]

There are some very central issues to the marches that many overlook. That is the issue of unequal taxation. Rogaine, which men use for hair regrowth, is classified as a "medical supply" and thus not taxed. Same for dandruff shampoo and adult diapers. Yet tampons, which are used by every adult women, are classified as "general merchandise" and are taxable. Because such decisions are made by men who could care less.


Take that all up with whatever state you are in first, or claim to be in. They assign sales taxes. Not a damn thing
you cited is under federal tax control.

You need to get a grip.

[Trigg]

There are some very central issues to the marches that many overlook. That is the issue of unequal taxation. Rogaine, which men use for hair regrowth, is classified as a "medical supply" and thus not taxed. Same for dandruff shampoo and adult diapers. Yet tampons, which are used by every adult women, are classified as "general merchandise" and are taxable. Because such decisions are made by men who could care less. While I will agree that there are women's issues that have been ignored, those issues have been around for decades and have been ignored by not only Obama but prior democrat presidents.

These women were out there because they don't like TRUMP. If they truly cared about the issues you mentioned they would have been marching during Obama's 8 year presidency when he did exactly squat for women.

[pete311]

While I will agree that there are women's issues that have been ignored, those issues have been around for decades and have been ignored by not only Obama but prior democrat presidents.

These women were out there because they don't like TRUMP. If they truly cared about the issues you mentioned they would have been marching during Obama's 8 year presidency when he did exactly squat for women.

Seriously, all you have to do is search on Google. Did Obama solve anything, no, but he pushed it forward where as Trump is taking things way back. There IS an difference.

[Trigg]

Seriously, all you have to do is search on Google. Did Obama solve anything, no, but he pushed it forward where as Trump is taking things way back. There IS an difference.


Well there ya go........Obama solved NOTHING and yet no one marched against him. Those ever tolerant liberals wouldn't have dared do such a thing for fear of being labeled a racist by the other tolerant liberals.

[pete311]

Well there ya go........Obama solved NOTHING and yet no one marched against him. Those ever tolerant liberals wouldn't have dared do such a thing for fear of being labeled a racist by the other tolerant liberals.
No one expects one person to solve anything.

[Trigg]

No one expects one person to solve anything.

Yet, you are all over this board screaming the sky is falling because Trump was elected. Surely one man also can't ruin everything.

So, again, why are those women marching?????

Obama solved nothing during his 8 years AND THEY DIDN'T MARCH.

They're pissed because they lost, nothing more, nothing less.

[Kathianne]

Yet, you are all over this board screaming the sky is falling because Trump was elected. Surely one man also can't ruin everything.

So, again, why are those women marching?????

Obama solved nothing during his 8 years AND THEY DIDN'T MARCH.

They're pissed because they lost, nothing more, nothing less.

I have to agree they were protesting Trump. Sure it was for things he's said and been accused of. To me, it's a pretty fitting time to say, 'Oh well, he won, sit down.'

I don't mind protests though, it's good for exercise and if it makes folks feel good, so be it. It seemed the Women's March in US cities at least, went pretty good. They applied for and got permits. They were loud, but stayed where they were supposed to. They didn't shut down cities for the heck of it. They didn't keep people from getting into stores or other businesses.

In Chicago, so many turned out they didn't march, it would have closed more streets than they planned on. The organizers agreed readily to leave it at speakers, no marching.

I do have a problem with anarchy, which is what happened on Friday in parts of DC.

[pete311]

I have to agree they were protesting Trump. Sure it was for things he's said and been accused of. To me, it's a pretty fitting time to say, 'Oh well, he won, sit down.'


Is that what you tell a wife who's a victim of abuse?

[Kathianne]

Is that what you tell a wife who's a victim of abuse?

Actually, he won. Time to move on. As I said, fine to go to a march if that floats your boat. Fine to get involved with someone's who will run against him or those that support him. Fine to write opinion piece and try and get it published or just spout off here.

Stop the derangement though. I thought it over the top with both Bush and Obama. It's not constructive.

[pete311]

Actually, he won. Time to move on. As I said, fine to go to a march if that floats your boat. Fine to get involved with someone's who will run against him or those that support him. Fine to write opinion piece and try and get it published or just spout off here.

Stop the derangement though. I thought it over the top with both Bush and Obama. It's not constructive.

What derangement?

[NightTrain]

ISP's do not lie. Take 3 search engines and take the closest 2 out of three,
and You will get a hit. ISP is the modem, and server.

Only the FCC and FBI (and a few others) can do better.

Oh, she's definitely outside of Houston.

I just can't figure out why the lying like that - almost like she doesn't remember getting busted the last 50 times with her idiotic lies.

[Abbey Marie]

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9647&stc=1

[Balu]

You are pissing up a rope. Our Constitution dictates that the Electoral College will be the determining factor.
That way the huge cities will not be lording over the rural and distant populace.
No logic is observed, if EVERY vote is valuable and counted. Only DIRECT voting reflects a real will of citizens. And only THIS VERY WAY EVERYBODY is able to influence on the final results. Those, who make up their minds not to vote at all, let the others decide their future. Or you want to state that those from distant and rural areas of the USA have a restricted access to voting? http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dntknw.gif

[Elessar]

Yet, you are all over this board screaming the sky is falling because Trump was elected. Surely one man also can't ruin everything.

So, again, why are those women marching?????

Obama solved nothing during his 8 years AND THEY DIDN'T MARCH.

They're pissed because they lost, nothing more, nothing less.

Trigg:

You cannot preach common sense to a singular-minded idiot.

Obama turned his back on admonishing the 'Occupy" movement;
He turned his back on voter intimidation in Philadelphia;
He turned his back on BLM riots, destruction, and assaults.

You are right....pissed because they lost, and Pete needs a comfort animal.
I say give him a wolverine.:laugh:

[Black Diamond]

Black Diamond. How can he tell whether his boyfriend is either a he, or a she? Whatever they are into doesn't allow them to call each other a he, or she, since they can't tell the difference anymore. That Politically Correct Thing, and Crap they live by has distorted their empty minds. We're not even permitted to accuse them of having Gonads, since that would infuriate, and insult the wannabe OTHER genderizing.
Good points.

[gabosaurus]

Why has this thread become an exchange of degrading insults? This is one of the many things the march was about. Women want an end of bullying and body shaming. We want an end to male rape culture and court cases that put the victim on trial instead of the accuser.

There were some who protested the election results. There were also a great many who just wanted more respect for women. Notice that there was no violence associated with any of the rallies. Outside of a few idiots like Madonna, there were no threats of any kind.

[Abbey Marie]

Why has this thread become an exchange of degrading insults? This is one of the many things the march was about. Women want an end of bullying and body shaming. We want an end to male rape culture and court cases that put the victim on trial instead of the accuser.

There were some who protested the election results. There were also a great many who just wanted more respect for women. Notice that there was no violence associated with any of the rallies. Outside of a few idiots like Madonna, there were no threats of any kind.

Agreed that we want respect. Exactly how do women get respect while wearing genitals on their head? Are they really that clueless?

i think people get respect by acting in respectful ways.

[gabosaurus]

Agreed that we want respect. Exactly how do women get respect while wearing genitals on their head? Are they really that clueless?

i think people get respect by acting in respectful ways.

Genitals? It was a hat. Most of the hats were hand crafted. How it got its name I have no idea. Does it look like genitalia to anyone?

https://a.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/fastcompany/imagecache/slideshow_large/slideshow/2017/01/3067204-slide-s-2-the-pussyhat-project.jpg

[Abbey Marie]

Genitals? It was a hat. Most of the hats were hand crafted. How it got its name I have no idea. Does it look like genitalia to anyone?

https://a.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/fastcompany/imagecache/slideshow_large/slideshow/2017/01/3067204-slide-s-2-the-pussyhat-project.jpg

Gabs, you know they were all over the parade. There are pics elsewhere on this site.

[Kathianne]

It would be a whole lot easier to understand the 'women's concerns' if there weren't so very many current problems with 'rape culture' when so many college males, a minority now in universities are being accused of 'rape' and then subjected to kangaroo hearings without due process or legal representation. If this weren't enough, many of their 'accusers' often recant nearly immediately, but to no avail, with expulsion for the male the result.

Now many are starting to sue the universities and getting substantial judgements, so perhaps this will end?

Then there is the problems found in mostly high schools, but also some middle schools where female instructors rape young men, often saying they are 'in love' with them. Often they get probation, sometimes not even having to be listed as a sex offender. Male teachers? Often face very long jail terms, even when there is the same age difference as the female/male differences. Probation? Never heard of it for a male. Not registering? Never.

There are many issues that women should have addressed, but then they need to act like adults and not just mimic the lines of a Judd or Madonna, or even Hillary-who changed her webpage about 'supporting female accusers,' when the hypocrisy of how she trashed those of her husband's including Juanita Broaderick who actually collected in order to clear her name.

[gabosaurus]

It would be a whole lot easier to understand the 'women's concerns' if there weren't so very many current problems with 'rape culture' when so many college males, a minority now in universities are being accused of 'rape' and then subjected to kangaroo hearings without due process or legal representation. If this weren't enough, many of their 'accusers' often recant nearly immediately, but to no avail, with expulsion for the male the result.
Now many are starting to sue the universities and getting substantial judgements, so perhaps this will end?


I have to disagree. To many college campuses want to look the other way or sweep accusations under the rug. You only have to look at recent situations at Baylor and Brigham Young.
Read the book "Missoula" by Jon Krakauer and you will recognize what women are up against.

[Elessar]

Why has this thread become an exchange of degrading insults? This is one of the many things the march was about. Women want an end of bullying and body shaming. We want an end to male rape culture and court cases that put the victim on trial instead of the accuser.

There were some who protested the election results. There were also a great many who just wanted more respect for women. Notice that there was no violence associated with any of the rallies. Outside of a few idiots like Madonna, there were no threats of any kind.

Do you really think that only females are recipients of abuse?

All of the times I was life guarding a pool or beach and some strange chick comes up and grabs my
personals?

All of the times I bounced bars to have some drunk woman massage my crotch?

You need to wake up. It is not all males.

[Kathianne]

I certainly am not minimizing rape, not as a crime and not for the aftermath of victims.

What I do have problems with are women who cry 'rape' whenever it isn't. What is going on now on too many campuses is creating male victims which have just as much aftermath as true rape victims. I would not minimize that either.

I certainly agree there are rapes that go unreported and that too often those that do report are still subjected to a secondary trauma with the judicial process.

There are steps women can take to keep their risks to a minimum, especially in college/social settings. Any freshmen orientation would suggest those steps. Often women don't think it will happen to them.

As Elessar said, it's not only women that are victimized, as he described and I did earlier regarding 'women that rape and are pretty much left off the hook that would send a man to prison for many years.

Same with domestic violence, it's not just women that are victimized and the problems men face in reporting is often just as traumatizing as women face with the judicial system.

I'm sick of the grouping of victims-all victims deserve help, not just the 'flavor of the left this month.' One is serious about justice or not.

Much of this is just a natural alignment with why I am philosophically opposed to 'hate crimes charges.'

[Balu]

...What I do have problems with are women who cry 'rape' whenever it isn't. ...
The real problem is with those who start crying in public that they were raped dozens years after the 'incident'. Don't believe? - Ask President Trump. :laugh: