Crap to a member using ignore

[fj1200]

Truly bizarre. Conservatives (I am one, after all) can be distinguished from other politically-minded people by virtue of being realistic in their approach to the world. This is one reason why the Leftie preoccupation with only seeing what propaganda insists upon, is alien to us. We evolve with, adapt to, realities. The Left is too dogma-driven to have that capacity.

This so-called 'hermetically sealed echo chamber' you refer to. WHAT chamber ? What on earth are you talking about ? Do you even know yourself ?

It's more likely that a Leftie would inhabit one. This would explain how Lefties only hear what THEY have to say, and are deaf to the realistic utterances of others !

:laugh: I can't make this stuff up especially in this thread.

[jimnyc]

:laugh: I can't make this stuff up especially in this thread.

Folks talking to themselves, over and over, knowing that the other member did the right thing by the board and placed them on ignore. And it's one thing if you are truly posting something factual that needed addressing - but you use such opportunities to STILL troll someone, even though they won't see your response.

[fj1200]

Folks talking to themselves, over and over, knowing that the other member did the right thing by the board and placed them on ignore. And it's one thing if you are truly posting something factual that needed addressing - but you use such opportunities to STILL troll someone, even though they won't see your response.

I presume you're referring to those who refuse to defend their posts? They get some fact dropped on 'em like anyone else. :)

Besides fact is not trolling. ;)

[jimnyc]

I presume you're referring to those who refuse to defend their posts? They get some fact dropped on 'em like anyone else. :)

Besides fact is not trolling. ;)

Gotcha. I see it as the continuation of the problems that were a never ending feud. You weren't placed on ignore for folks to no longer defend posts, but because I asked people to do so in order to stop the crap posts that screwed up so many threads and started animosity and dumb posts instead of discussing the subject or whatever. You still feel the need to try and poke, and then claim "I can't make this stuff up" or whatever is now factual and adding to the thread. If you can't be bothered trying to avoid such situations and want to continue the crap, then I simply have no need to be a part of it, even if indirectly. You can wait for replies for those who have you on ignore then. All it does to me is take away from the subject and make me not want to participate any longer.

[fj1200]

Gotcha.

I didn't start feuds. I just didn't back down.

[jimnyc]

I didn't start feuds. I just didn't back down.

Money well spent - and that's having an add-on made for me, which allows for me to FORCE someone to ignore another member, and that will be the end of the nonsense once I get that.

[fj1200]

Money well spent - and that's having an add-on made for me, which allows for me to FORCE someone to ignore another member, and that will be the end of the nonsense once I get that.

Sweet! I'll still get to point out to others how stupid some posts/posters are. Snowflakes can't be bothered with dissenting opinion.

[jimnyc]

Sweet! I'll still get to point out to others how stupid some posts/posters are. Snowflakes can't be bothered with dissenting opinion.

Yup, no different than anyone else. In the mean time, posts replied to others, others that have them on ignore, will be moved to the cage.

[fj1200]

You used to be a free speech guy. :dunno:

[jimnyc]

You used to be a free speech guy. :dunno:

And yet I was ALWAYS the kind of guy that was against long retarded feuds that screwed up otherwise good threads. My apologies if you think trying to halt stupid feuds - or trying to stop posts that poke at members that have that person on ignore...

But I'm still for free speech - you're replying, aren't you? I simply don't want that shit continuing forever and ever in decent threads. It's fucking annoying. If you must reply in a mocking manner to folks that have you on ignore, then take your speech down here.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

And yet I was ALWAYS the kind of guy that was against long retarded feuds that screwed up otherwise good threads. My apologies if you think trying to halt stupid feuds - or trying to stop posts that poke at members that have that person on ignore...

But I'm still for free speech - you're replying, aren't you? I simply don't want that shit continuing forever and ever in decent threads. It's fucking annoying. If you must reply in a mocking manner to folks that have you on ignore, then take your speech down here.

This post is addressed only to Jim, in that it only speaks about the issue of free speech and how much is to be allowed , before it is abused in such a manner as to to destroy a person, board, discussion, etc.

Free speech, also implies that it will not be abused such as yelling, FIRE!, when none exists in a crowded theater.

Speaking directly and only in regards to Free Speech issue, it is well known that a board owner must decide how much to allow, for if he allows it totally unchecked, chaos ensues and the board descends into mayhem, cursing and a foul darkness, IMHO.

Stopping such is the board owner's decision to make. As is any action that owner may choose to himself freely and solely take..
Which Jim has now done..-Tyr

[sundaydriver]

Money well spent - and that's having an add-on made for me, which allows for me to FORCE someone to ignore another member, and that will be the end of the nonsense once I get that.

That would be a real shame for this or any board. It seems to me that the posters that use ignore are the posters that like to give shit to others but can't take refuting facts in return as FJ pointed out.

[fj1200]

And yet I was ALWAYS the kind of guy that was against long retarded feuds that screwed up otherwise good threads. My apologies if you think trying to halt stupid feuds - or trying to stop posts that poke at members that have that person on ignore...

But I'm still for free speech - you're replying, aren't you? I simply don't want that shit continuing forever and ever in decent threads. It's fucking annoying. If you must reply in a mocking manner to folks that have you on ignore, then take your speech down here.

That's all well and good but I don't see you moving posts when someone I'm ignoring replies to me and you don't really take action when someone who is ignoring me goes out of their way to make comments about me; either directly or indirectly.

Why you go out of your way to favor the knuckleheads boggles my mind because they add virtually nothing to the board, repetitive rants mostly.

[fj1200]

... before it is abused in such a manner as to to destroy a person, board, discussion, etc.

If you're views can't stand the light of debate then perhaps you're in the wrong place. :)

[jimnyc]

That would be a real shame for this or any board. It seems to me that the posters that use ignore are the posters that like to give shit to others but can't take refuting facts in return as FJ pointed out.

Feuding, and poking back and forth at one another, ruining threads for folks not interested in that non-stop crap, is not good for any board. If someone wants to reply with a normal post, that's fine, but replying with mocking is NOT adding anything but trying to continue the crap with someone who put them on ignore. And it would also be different if the post being replied to was being addressed to them in some manner, but it's not. It's nothing more than trying to eliminate the crap. If you guys prefer the crap, this is the wrong place for you.

[sundaydriver]

Feuding, and poking back and forth at one another, ruining threads for folks not interested in that non-stop crap, is not good for any board. If someone wants to reply with a normal post, that's fine, but replying with mocking is NOT adding anything but trying to continue the crap with someone who put them on ignore. And it would also be different if the post being replied to was being addressed to them in some manner, but it's not. It's nothing more than trying to eliminate the crap. If you guys prefer the crap, this is the wrong place for you.

So if I reply to someone who's only purpose in a thread is to lay a personal attack on me due to something I posted that was not even an opinion but just a non political share of manufacturing experience I'm trolling or looking for crap? The problem as I see it is a couple of posters that are so thin skinned that anything that contradicts their opinions is too upsetting for them to handle.

[jimnyc]

So if I reply to someone who's only purpose in a thread is to lay a personal attack on me due to something I posted that was not even an opinion but just a non political share of manufacturing experience I'm trolling or looking for crap? The problem as I see it is a couple of posters that are so thin skinned that anything that contradicts their opinions is too upsetting for them to handle.

Ummm, no. This had nothing to do with you but you got involved anyway. This has to do with members FIGHTING for a few years straight. Then the ignore option being used, and then sniping continuing. It ruins threads. But unless folks have you on ignore, and you are continually replying to them anyway, with sniping and laughing, then this has nothing to do with you. I said nothing at all about you, only responding about the issue with folks and the ignore issue.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Ummm, no. This had nothing to do with you but you got involved anyway. This has to do with members FIGHTING for a few years straight. Then the ignore option being used, and then sniping continuing. It ruins threads. But unless folks have you on ignore, and you are continually replying to them anyway, with sniping and laughing, then this has nothing to do with you. I said nothing at all about you, only responding about the issue with folks and the ignore issue.

RIGHT JIM, AS I DO NOT HAVE THIS CRYBABY SUNDAYDRIVER WORM ON IGNORE.
Now it cries to join the band to attack me because I crushed its globalist propaganda in a well reason, reality based comment in a thread..
Should it put me on ignore and announce that to the forum openly for me to see/know I'll gladly stop correcting
and defeating its stupidity too. --;)-Tyr

[sundaydriver]

RIGHT JIM, AS I DO NOT HAVE THIS CRYBABY SUNDAYDRIVER WORM ON IGNORE.
Now it cries to join the band to attack me because I crushed its globalist propaganda in a well reason, reality based comment in a thread..
Should it put me on ignore and announce that to the forum openly for me to see/know I'll gladly stop correcting
and defeating its stupidity too. --;)-Tyr

I guess everything is in one's perspective, have yours checked. :laugh:

[Drummond]

That would be a real shame for this or any board. It seems to me that the posters that use ignore are the posters that like to give shit to others but can't take refuting facts in return as FJ pointed out.

Ok, now I've caught up with this.

Sundaydriver, I can understand and even respect your wish to help out a comrade .. but in this instance, certainly, you're misguided.

It seems clear that my one-time feuding with FJ is in some way a factor in what's being discussed ?

So let me say this.

Sundaydriver, in my particular case, I spent an inordinate amount of time in 'discussion' with FJ ... except that FJ ensured that 'discussion' was nothing of the kind, but just a snipe-fest on his part. This came about, not least because I was able to demonstrate that his so-called 'Conservative' bona fides were a sham.

I did so repeatedly. Why ? Because I believe that HONEST discussion is what's called for, on this or other boards. You come on to a forum like this, then misrepresent what you're all about to those you engage in .. and really, what's the point of it ?

So, FJ and I got involved in protracted fighting.

But it was pointless activity. It contributed, ultimately, nothing of value to this board, and I'm quite prepared to accept that it ruined entire threads here. SO ... I was persuaded to put FJ on ignore. Jim's point of view is no less than understandable .. as is any corrective action he may have to consider. There are standards that need to be maintained on public forums such as this.

I don't, as a matter of principle, much like the 'ignore' function ... I feel that using it amounts to failure. Still, with FJ, there was no other recourse .. so, it was done. FJ remains on 'ignore' to this day and will continue to be.

FJ, of course, is aware of all of this. He knows from my 'history' with him just why he's on ignore. He therefore is totally clear on what can motivate someone to take that decision, and that action.

All this, of course, is a far cry from what YOU are apparently claiming for 'reasons' why someone would put someone else on ignore. You should now rethink your argument .. loyalty to your comrade, or otherwise.

[fj1200]

... 'discussion' with FJ ...

You were never interested in honest discussion and were unable to see past your imagination. FACT. ;)

[Gunny]

Y'all need to stand down. Jim's board -- Jim's rules. There is an appropriate way to address them. Jimbob has my opinion on the ignore function. But he is STILL the boss. I'll shut you down in a hearbeat, Everyone has PM and know who the mods/admins are. Got a problem with policy you feel free to bring it there to any one or all of us.

[aboutime]

I rather enjoy being told, or reminded by certain members, that I am on their IGNORE list. I find it comical...following their announcement; how they somehow, magically, respond to my words...or they repeat my words to feather their own nest.

So. Thank you, to all who feel the immature need to IGNORE my posts.:cool: