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red states rule
08-03-2007, 06:47 AM
With talk radio and conservative websites pointing out the hate coming from the liberal kooks at the Daily Kos - not the liberal media is circling the wagons in their defense

Now, to the liberal media, the Daily Kos is a partisan website and the real hate talk is coming form Rush and Fox News



The Rise of Kos

By E. J. Dionne Jr.
Friday, August 3, 2007; Page A15

Perhaps you missed it, but Wednesday was the 19th anniversary of Rush Limbaugh's radio show. Limbaugh was celebrating his ripe old age, in media years, in the same week that liberal blog fans were trekking to Chicago for the YearlyKos convention. Therein lies one of the most important stories in American politics.

Make no mistake: From the beginning, Limbaugh was a revolutionary figure. He befuddled Democrats and the journalistic establishment because he was an up-to-date throwback. The large audience he won on the right marked the return in the United States of openly partisan mass media, a 19th-century phenomenon that had all but disappeared in the late 20th century.

Limbaugh is not primarily about information, though he freely uses even those bits that come his way courtesy of dreaded "liberal" media sources. His goal is mobilization, and he has been extremely good at it. He spawned conservative imitators in media markets all over the nation and aroused a faithful band of Dittoheads who despise all things liberal and Democratic.

The greatest gift to Limbaugh was Bill Clinton's election as president in 1992. Talk-show hosts are much better on offense than defense. Limbaugh was unusually hesitant about Pat Buchanan's challenge to the first President Bush during the 1992 Republican primaries because their fight split Limbaugh's base. With Bush dispatched that fall, Clinton brought conservatives together in rage, and Limbaugh stoked it. He deserves major credit for the Republicans' 1994 landslide.

Democrats and liberals realized they needed a mobilizing force of their own but could not match Limbaugh's reach on the radio. Enter the Internet, and Markos Moulitsas.

An Army veteran, a former Republican, and the son of a Salvadoran mother and a Greek father, Moulitsas, 35, created his Daily Kos Web site on May 26, 2002 -- "in those dark days," as his site puts it, "when an oppressive and war-crazed administration suppressed all dissent as unpatriotic and treasonous." Daily Kos took off because so many Democrats shared Moulitsas's view of the second President Bush.

Daily Kos is often described as liberal, but it is, more than anything, partisan. Its core assumption is that ideological conservatives made the Republican Party their vehicle and rallied in lock step against Democrats. The party of FDR and JFK needed to find the same discipline. The key litmus tests for Kos and his many allies in the blogosphere involve not long lists of issues developed by the American Civil Liberties Union or the AFL-CIO, but loyalty in standing up against Bush and doing what's necessary to build a Democratic majority.

And just as Limbaugh aroused passionate opposition on the left, so has Kos become the object of conservative rage. In the lead-up to Moulitsas's Chicago gathering, Fox News's Bill O'Reilly, a right-wing showman who knows a threat when he sees one, has gone after Kos. "There's no question that the most vile stuff imaginable is posted on this hate site and others like it," O'Reilly said Tuesday.

O'Reilly is irate that the leading Democratic presidential candidates are showing up this weekend. "The far left wants a quasi-socialistic economy and a one-world foreign policy, where national security decisions are made only with the approval of other countries," O'Reilly fumed. "So that's the soup the Democratic presidential candidates will be dining on when they show up at the Kos convention."

I'm not in the habit of giving advice to Bill O'Reilly, but there's always a first time: Liberal rage at Rush Limbaugh not only was useless, but it actually strengthened his credibility with the right. (I speak from experience.) Bill, I bet Markos loves what you're doing.

Personally, I dislike the use of obscenity on the Web, and many online posts are way too nasty. But the right wing, suddenly so concerned with the niceties of political discourse, did not worry much about what its militants said about Clinton, Al Gore or John Kerry. Limbaugh even blamed the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, on a president who had been out of office for eight months. I'm still waiting for his apology.

George Bush and Dick Cheney have heaped praise on Limbaugh ("Well, Rush, you've got a great show, as always," Cheney said during one of his many interviews) because he's an effective organizer for the right -- even if Limbaugh has, of late, become disenchanted with some of Bush's policies. Limbaugh desperately needs a Democratic president. Another Clinton would be perfect.

Democratic candidates know they owe a debt to Moulitsas. They're paying homage to him because he has started to beat Limbaugh and O'Reilly at their own game. No wonder O'Reilly is so annoyed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202023.html

red states rule
08-04-2007, 12:32 PM
Markos Moulitsas Tells YearlyKos Attendees ‘We Are The Center’
By Noel Sheppard | August 3, 2007 - 13:16 ET
It appears Daily Kos proprietor Markos Moulitsas is drinking the same Kool-Aid as NPR's Juan Williams.

During the opening address of his third annual YearlyKos convention, Moulitsas actually said (please get fluids out of your mouth and away from your computer):

There is no Jesse Jackson wing of the Democratic party anymore. We are the center.

How'd you like to ask him for directions?

Fortunately, as reported by Rick Moran at Pajamas Media Friday, this wasn't the most ridiculous statement coming out of Markos' mouth last night. Not even close (emphasis added throughout, h/t Glenn Reynolds):

Kos also scoffed at the online efforts of conservatives to get organized. He noted that the major differences between blogs of the right and blogs of the left is that the left builds communities of like minded activists on their sites, encouraging argument and debate, while most of the top conservative sites believe themselves to be "pundits" who want nothing more than to be accepted by the mainstream media.

Excuse me? Most of the rightwing blogs - including this one - go out of their way to discredit the mainstream media. Why should we want to be accepted by that which we despise?

He pointed out that, on the left, it was a question of fighting the insiders in media and politics from a position outside the beltway.

Really? Is that why ALL of the Democrat presidential candidates were invited to this convention? Is that how one fights political insiders - by asking them to speak at your events?

Fascinating delusion, wouldn't you agree?

While on the subject of presidential candidates, there appears to be a bit of a kerfuffle brewing with Hillary's attendance as reported by the Nation (emphasis added):

In an announcement Thursday night, organizers of the YearlyKos netroots convention said Hillary Clinton would appear with other presidential candidates at the convention's leadership forum, but would be the only candidate to skip meetings with activists afterward, instead sending Ann Lewis to speak with attendees on her behalf.

Drat. That was the only reason I was going to attend. Guess I'll take in a Cubs game instead.

It seems I wasn't the only person despondent over the news. A Kossack named el ganador posted the following last evening (vulgarity alert, emphasis added):

YK '07: Effing Hillary Jilts Kossacks! by el ganador Thu Aug 02, 2007 at 07:16:00 PM PDT
OK - I'm pissed here and I probably should listen to my mother, who is right here attending YKC 07 with me, and not blog in the heat of the moment.

But I'm furious.

[...]

I bought my MOM a YK registration so she could meet candidates, and you just HURT MY MOTHER'S FEELINGS, Senator Clinton.

Inquiring minds with a great sense of humor should continue into the comments section of this post. However, please do so without any fluids near your computer or in your mouth.

Finally, it appears the Clinton campaign acquiesced to the pressure, as her Internet Director informed cheering throngs that Hillary will indeed attend the breakout session.

Phew...that's a relief.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/08/03/markos-moulitsas-tells-yearlykos-attendees-we-are-center

PostmodernProphet
08-04-2007, 02:01 PM
Daily Kos Is The New Rush??????


oh, I hope so....then the libs would have to stop bitching about Fairness in Broadcasting.....

red states rule
08-04-2007, 02:03 PM
oh, I hope so....then the libs would have to stop bitching about Fairness in Broadcasting.....

What fairness? To them that is when everything is all liberal all the time