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jimnyc
03-15-2017, 01:57 PM
It's time for this one to finally retire. She hasn't made sense in quite a long time and no longer works a single minute for good. Her entire purpose any longer is to just rant and run around like her hair is on fire.

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The Pelosi Principle

Suppose the federal government confiscated 90 percent of the income of every private sector worker who earned more than the poverty level.

Then suppose the government used some of that confiscated money to pay government workers and the rest to provide benefits to people who do not work or earn less than the poverty level.

Would that be a transfer of wealth?

If so, would that transfer of wealth go from those whose money the government confiscated to those who received it? Or from those who received it to those forced to give it up?

How would House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi answer that question?

This scenario, of course, is a reductio ad absurdum. But Pelosi's argument against the Republican's flawed plan to replace Obamacare is also absurd.

She essentially argues that any diminution in the amount of money the government takes from Tom to give to Harry is in fact a transfer of wealth from Harry to Tom.

The Pelosi Principle is this: If the government lets you keep your property, it is depriving someone else of it.

"The Republican bill is one of the largest transfers of wealth from working families to the richest people in our country — Robin Hood in reverse," Pelosi said at her press briefing last Thursday.

On Monday, after CBO released its analysis of the plan, she repeated: "They are implementing the biggest transfer of wealth in our history."

"How can they look their constituents in the eye," Pelosi said, "when they say to them, 24 million of you are no longer to have coverage."

CBO outlined who it believes those 24 million will be.

Most of the first large bloc, said CBO, would not be people the government forces out of insurance but people it can no longer force in.

In 2018, said CBO, "14 million more people would be uninsured under the legislation than under current law.

"Most of that increase would stem from repealing the penalties associated with the individual mandate," it said. "Some of those people would choose not to have insurance because they chose to be covered by insurance under current law only to avoid paying the penalties, and some people would forgo insurance in response to higher premiums."

But, CBO concluded, once the Republican plan was in effect a couple of years, premiums would be lower than under Obamacare — not higher.

"By 2026," it says, "average premiums for single policyholders in the nongroup market under the legislation would be roughly 10 percent lower than under the current law."

Thus, by eliminating the individual mandate and lowering premiums, the Republican plan would prevent at least this version of what would otherwise be a government-mandated transfer of wealth from individuals to insurance companies.

Additionally, the Republican plan would lessen — not increase — the burden Obamacare places on younger people (who tend to make less money) to subsidize the insurance of older people (who tend to make more).

Rest here - http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/pelosi-principle

Elessar
03-15-2017, 02:02 PM
She is a millionaire...

What the hell does she know about middle or lower class people?

She's been sucking off the high class teat for so long that she lost
what little common sense she had.

hjmick
03-15-2017, 03:43 PM
Pelosi has no principles...

gabosaurus
03-15-2017, 03:52 PM
She is a millionaire...

What the hell does she know about middle or lower class people?

She's been sucking off the high class teat for so long that she lost
what little common sense she had.

Trump is a multi-billionaire. So are most of his cabinet. Shouldn't this also apply to all of them?

Black Diamond
03-15-2017, 03:58 PM
Trump is a multi-billionaire. So are most of his cabinet. Shouldn't this also apply to all of them?
No. Just Pelosi.

Gunny
03-15-2017, 04:28 PM
Trump is a multi-billionaire. So are most of his cabinet. Shouldn't this also apply to all of them?He earned his money the hard way. Pelosi's been sucking off the government for decades. Last I checked, his 1st government paycheck started 2 months ago.

Elessar
03-15-2017, 06:00 PM
Trump is a multi-billionaire. So are most of his cabinet. Shouldn't this also apply to all of them?

Trump is not the subject of the OP. His behavior so far pales in comparison to Pelosi and Reid.

Elessar
03-15-2017, 06:01 PM
He earned his money the hard way. Pelosi's been sucking off the government for decades. Last I checked, his 1st government paycheck started 2 months ago.

...and by law, he accepts it, but only retains $1. The rest goes to charity. Pelosi cannot brag to that.

Gunny
03-15-2017, 07:03 PM
...and by law, he accepts it, but only retains $1. The rest goes to charity. Pelosi cannot brag to that.

I honestly don't care if he takes it or not. I just think it's BS that the lefties don't go after their own people. Pelosi's had a nice fat deal for her hubby in CA for years. If I was scamming on taxes, I'd be in the corner not drawing attention to myself instead of be a political quack. And that's all she is. A damned duck.

gabosaurus
03-15-2017, 07:25 PM
EVERY politician has a nice deal. Lobbyists and special interest groups throw money at you, give you free trips and generally do everything they can to curry favor. The more power you have, the more gravy gets poured into your bowl.

To me, "earning it the hard way" doesn't entail your father giving you millions of dollars and setting you up in business.

Elessar
03-15-2017, 07:34 PM
EVERY politician has a nice deal. Lobbyists and special interest groups throw money at you, give you free trips and generally do everything they can to curry favor. The more power you have, the more gravy gets poured into your bowl.

To me, "earning it the hard way" doesn't entail your father giving you millions of dollars and setting you up in business.

Then pray tell, what does a father giving to 'you' entail? My dad left me a ring, his medals, and pictures.

hjmick
03-15-2017, 07:50 PM
...and by law, he accepts it, but only retains $1. The rest goes to charity. Pelosi cannot brag to that.


To be fair, he hasn't donated his salary yet, from I hear he doesn't plan to until the end of the year, so let's wait and see...


Trump intends to donate salary at end of year, spokesman says (http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/13/trump-intends-to-donate-salary-at-end-of-year-spokesman-says.html)

aboutime
03-15-2017, 08:12 PM
Trump is a multi-billionaire. So are most of his cabinet. Shouldn't this also apply to all of them?


Okay gabby. You asked. Now tell us. How do you know....IT DOESN'T apply to all of them? Truth is..that you do not want to hear. I'd suggest they are all Doing as Trump is doing. Would you like to take the time to prove OTHERWISE?

Gunny
03-15-2017, 09:17 PM
EVERY politician has a nice deal. Lobbyists and special interest groups throw money at you, give you free trips and generally do everything they can to curry favor. The more power you have, the more gravy gets poured into your bowl.

To me, "earning it the hard way" doesn't entail your father giving you millions of dollars and setting you up in business.On the wrong subject with me. I KNOW what developers do. The risk is all HIS. If he fails, he's done. Try laying in bed at night unable to sleep trying to figure out how to not fail.

And don't start with ME. I'm not a Trump fan. But I DO know the business.

But we can compare that to Obama's skills. Trained by a domestic terrorist Clinton let off the hook. That's what I want on my resume. Threw his white grandmother and his preacher for 21 years under the bus. Didn't prosecute a known proven criminal. Created a so-called healthcare plan that's a total fiasco. Declared victory in Iraq and pulled our troops out creating ISIS then refused to call them Islamic terrorists.

Yeah. There's HIS legacy. Brilliant. He could be the coach of the Cleveland Browns. Oh no ... wait ... they have more wins.

Elessar
03-15-2017, 09:31 PM
On the wrong subject with me. I KNOW what developers do. The risk is all HIS. If he fails, he's done. Try laying in bed at night unable to sleep trying to figure out how to not fail.

And don't start with ME. I'm not a Trump fan. But I DO know the business.

But we can compare that to Obama's skills. Trained by a domestic terrorist Clinton let off the hook. That's what I want on my resume. Threw his white grandmother and his preacher for 21 years under the bus. Didn't prosecute a known proven criminal. Created a so-called healthcare plan that's a total fiasco. Declared victory in Iraq and pulled our troops out creating ISIS then refused to call them Islamic terrorists.

Yeah. There's HIS legacy. Brilliant. He could be the coach of the Cleveland Browns. Oh no ... wait ... they have more wins.

You just got a BINGO, Jarhead!