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gabosaurus
03-28-2017, 08:13 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/28/privacy-protection-sell-web-browsing-history-data

Get ready to receive a LOT more advertisements and solicitations. If you buy shoes or underwear online, your ISP knows when, where and how much you paid. And, pretty soon, every company that wants to pay for the info will know.
And if you search for, say, "compliant Brazilian babes," guess what kind of ads YOU are going to get.
God forbid if you watch or search for porn. :cool:

sear
03-29-2017, 12:55 AM
Thanks for this topic g.

For those that may think it's trivial or inconsequential, let's put it in perspective.

Google started out a losing proposition. Their Internet search protocols were widely regarded the best in the industry.

But they were $hemorrhaging $dollars.

Then they got a viable business model, the topic of this thread, and became one of the wealthiest entities in the solar system.

I've never seen a one-sided coin.
And this issue has to sensible sides as well.

One side? Citizen privacy rights.
The other side? Not stifling business, commerce.

"a LOT more advertisements and solicitations." g #1

I'm not sure "more" is the issue.
But more effectively targeted may well be.

I wouldn't mind more effective advertising. The problem with the ads I get now is; they offer me spectacular deals on equipment I no longer need to buy BECAUSE I JUST BOUGHT ONE !!

They need to advertise not based on what I bought last week, but on what I want to buy next week.

'[Commercial] Television in America does not exist to deliver programs to viewers.
It exists to deliver audiences to advertisers.' a top CBS-TV executive CBS CBS Executive

pete311
03-29-2017, 07:51 AM
No explanation other than congress sold out. Guess I'll have to remain in incognito mode.

NightTrain
03-29-2017, 10:21 AM
No explanation other than congress sold out. Guess I'll have to remain in incognito mode.

Fun Fact : Incognito Mode does absolutely nothing to hide any web activity from your ISP. There is nothing you can do to hide your web activity from your ISP.

sear
03-29-2017, 10:33 AM
This URL is not a cancer cure.

http://www.ixquick.com/

BUT !!

It's the most secure Internet search engine I know of.
Those with Internet security concerns may wish to try it.

You can also purge "cookies", and even browser history, if it makes you feel more comfortable.

Gunny
03-29-2017, 10:55 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/28/privacy-protection-sell-web-browsing-history-data

Get ready to receive a LOT more advertisements and solicitations. If you buy shoes or underwear online, your ISP knows when, where and how much you paid. And, pretty soon, every company that wants to pay for the info will know.
And if you search for, say, "compliant Brazilian babes," guess what kind of ads YOU are going to get.
God forbid if you watch or search for porn. :cool:

Got a newsflash for you Gabby ... Congress rubber stamping something they've been doing for decades is not news. Good thing Congress accomplished something important.

They log your data everytime you turn on the tube. They know what you watch and when. Same with the computer. They have when and where you go and what time.

That being said, I consider it an invasion of privacy. There's nothing partisan about it to me. Our government at work. I do NOTHING online anymore but come on this message board. Have a "mandatory to do anything" e-mail account I check about once a year. I don't even listen to phone messages. Call or text. And if I don't know your number? Too bad. :laugh: There'll be a non-answer you can leave a message I won't listen to. :)

jimnyc
03-29-2017, 05:32 PM
Umm, NO, they did not give them the right to sell anything. They removed more regulations.

And NT is correct, you HAVE to surf "through", if you will, your internet provider, so you're not going to be able to hide your activities from them. They already know your habits. Everyone already gets ads based on your surfing habits, maybe just not from every ad server. Google and Facebook already know everything you do, if you ever used either.

I don't agree with congress making it easier, but this shit is already here and won't be going anywhere. That's why whenever I do a gig and work on someone's network or home computer, I educate them on various things to help protect them, even if places are monitoring their surfing habits.

aboutime
03-29-2017, 06:34 PM
Truth is. Your ISP already has your SEARCH HISTORY with every Click you make. And, every site you visit has COOKIES that are intentionally posted on your Hard Drive. You may notice, some sites want your permission to leave COOKIES. But that...in reality is just a hoax.
Another actual fact about any, and all electronic devices you may have, or use to communicate is...The Govt. has the means already, as well as the ISP's, or PHONE providers....to keep, and maintain every WORD you type, say, or record.

WE'RE NO LONGER IN KANSAS.....TOTO!

Think about it. How long does it take to call, or talk to anyone...anywhere around the World? HOW DOES THAT WORK????

BoogyMan
03-29-2017, 09:08 PM
No explanation other than congress sold out. Guess I'll have to remain in incognito mode.

Icognito won't help. Your history and storage are tracked and logged by your ingress ISP.

aboutime
03-29-2017, 09:15 PM
Icognito won't help. Your history and storage are tracked and logged by your ingress ISP.


BoogyMan. He's really funny, and terribly uninformed if he thinks Being INCOGNITO on the Internet will protect him.
Little do they know. The people on the Internet who claim to have the power to HIDE people from others....ALREADY have the CODES to disclose to the FBI, CIA, NSA, and almost anyone who wants it....That's what Congress gave to the ISP's.

All laughable, just watching the KNOW-IT-ALL's telling us they are safe.
I have more than a few years of Navy Training on computer operation, and the codes used to make everyone visible without them knowing it.
Love it to pieces too!:laugh:

pete311
03-30-2017, 12:23 AM
Fun Fact : Incognito Mode does absolutely nothing to hide any web activity from your ISP. There is nothing you can do to hide your web activity from your ISP.
Tor VPN

sear
03-30-2017, 12:57 AM
The comments already posted pretty well cover it.
But in our post 09/11/01 world, in the era of The Department of Homeland Security, manifest privacy is not what it used to be.

Computer manufacturers are building cameras into notebook computers. And there's no hard switch to turn them off.
There are software toggles, but they can be defeated by malware, so you may be being spied on right at this very moment, and not know it.
I put electrical tape over the lens of the cameras on my computers.

BUT !!

Those computers may also have microphones.
So even if you've defeated the camera in your computer, they may still be listening in on you, via your computer's microphone.

Every credit card purchase you make introduces into the system information about your buying habits.
To avoid that, spend $cash.

"There is no law that says we have to go to work every day and follow our employer's orders. Legally there is nothing to prevent us from going to live in the wild like primitive people or from going into business for ourselves. But in practice there is very little wild country left, and there is room in the economy for only a limited number of small business owners. Hence most of us can survive only as someone else's employee."

Excerpt from Unibomb Manifesto: author & convict Theodore Kaczynski; sentenced to lifetime imprisonment without possibility of parole