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Abbey Marie
03-30-2017, 12:19 PM
Before I start my on line research, I wanted to see if anyone here just happens to know anything about this topic.
I need to understand the connections between Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Especially in the 1800s. Particularly, did the border between Hungary and Slovakia migrate? Is it very possible for someone to think they are Hungarian, and actually be Czech- or vice versa?
Are the cultures very different, etc.?

I don't need links, I can find those myself. Just hoping for some personal experience or learned info.

Thanks!
Abbey

Kathianne
03-30-2017, 02:08 PM
Before I start my on line research, I wanted to see if anyone here just happens to know anything about this topic.
I need to understand the connections between Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Especially in the 1800s. Particularly, did the border between Hungary and Slovakia migrate? Is it very possible for someone to think they are Hungarian, and actually be Czech- or vice versa?
Are the cultures very different, etc.?

I don't need links, I can find those myself. Just hoping for some personal experience or learned info.

Thanks!
Abbey

The only thing that came to mind was Von Bismarck and Austro-Prussian War. Without a doubt what was going on during this time led to the rise of nationalism and WWI.

jimnyc
03-30-2017, 04:14 PM
I come from Czech/Hungary/Poland or whatever the hell was there back then. Well, my ancestors anyway, as far back as I can search. :)

gabosaurus
03-30-2017, 04:55 PM
There wasn't a Czechoslovakia back in the 1800's. There were four main states -- France, Germany, Austria and Hungry. Czechoslovakia was formed as part of the negotiations following World War I.

gabosaurus
03-30-2017, 04:59 PM
http://www.amitm.com/thecon/1913.jpg

Abbey Marie
03-30-2017, 05:54 PM
@gabosaurus (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=111) do you know the year of that map? I looked at an 1880 map, and there is a Czech Republic listed. Maybe the date is wrong.

KarlMarx
03-30-2017, 06:36 PM
I know that Hungarian, as a language, is very different than the languages spoken by the countries surrounding it.

. It is one of several European languages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_languages) not part of the Indo-European languages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages), and the most widely-spoken European language that does not belong to the Indo-European family.The traditional view states that the Hungarian language got into the Carpathian Basin by the Magyars, then the Huns spoke Hungarian

(Sounds like Attila the Hun spoke a precursor of Hungarian)

gabosaurus
03-30-2017, 07:37 PM
The map I posted is from 1850. Here is a map of Europe from 1880. The larger powers have their individual city states included.

http://maplists.com/wp-content/uploads/map-of-europe-1880-38564697.jpg

gabosaurus
03-30-2017, 07:41 PM
Here is a map showing Europe in 1914 and how the alliances came together.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/firstworldwar/maps/map_images/Europe1914.gif

Here is a map of Europe after WWI.

http://mapcollection.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/europepostwwi2.jpg