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Kathianne
04-09-2017, 06:38 AM
The questions abound. Will he go into hiding? (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/603904/north-korea-leader-kim-jong-un-hiding-trump-missile-strike) Will he act on threats? (http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/07/the-north-korean-nuclear-threat-is-getting-worse-by-the-day/) US sending in force. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-09/us-navy-strike-group-moves-toward-korean-peninsula/8429180) Will nukes be placed in South Korea? (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-options-north-korea-include-placing-nukes-south-korea-n743571)

sear
04-09-2017, 07:19 AM
"The questions abound. Will he go into hiding?"

The way Saddam did?

KJU may be the most universally despised human on the planet.
The pudgy one would be insane to think he could live out a productive life eating worms and tree bark in Pyongyang's suburbs. Lynching is too good for him.

"Will he act on threats?"

NK already acts without them, witness an SK military vessel recently sunk, and an SK fishing village shelled without provocation.

"US sending in force."

We've already got tens of thousands there.

"Will nukes be placed in South Korea?"

Interesting question.

I deduce they're already there by implication, but by the U.S. military presence. If we need nukes on the DMZ, and we don't have 'em on hand, we can get 'em quick.
How long would it take to get a Minuteman missile from Nebraska to tubby's house? Half an hour?

NightTrain
04-09-2017, 11:42 AM
The questions abound. Will he go into hiding? (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/603904/north-korea-leader-kim-jong-un-hiding-trump-missile-strike) Will he act on threats? (http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/07/the-north-korean-nuclear-threat-is-getting-worse-by-the-day/) US sending in force. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-09/us-navy-strike-group-moves-toward-korean-peninsula/8429180) Will nukes be placed in South Korea? (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-options-north-korea-include-placing-nukes-south-korea-n743571)

1) Tell China to deal with their mad dog or we will.

2) Tell Fatboy to disarm.

3) Place THAAD in South Korea, bolstered by Patriot anti-aircraft / missile systems.

4) Place US Navy assets to additionally shield SK from inbound missiles.

5) Pull back all assets from the DMZ to prevent artillery casualties.

6) Jam all radar & comm.

7) Destroy all radar & comm sites with missiles & stealth strikes.

8) Simultaneously destroy all artillery, mobile missile launchers, military installations, bridges, highways, fuel storage, naval facilities, ships, airbases, aircraft.

9) Once air superiority is achieved, strike any and all troop movements south. Pound them unmercifully until they retreat back North of the DMZ.

10) Use bunker busters to nail Fatboy. Keep drilling down the same hole as the last one until the job is done.

11) Offer assistance to North Korea in setting up their own new shiny modern government - perhaps setting the stage of rejoining South Korea in their democracy.

Abbey Marie
04-09-2017, 12:43 PM
I have long said that if WWIII happens, it will be caused by North Korea. Not the ME. I still think so.

There are nutters, and then there are NUTTERS.

Black Diamond
04-09-2017, 12:48 PM
I have long said that if WWIII happens, it will be caused by North Korea. Not the ME. I still think so.

There are nutters, and then there are NUTTERS.
I know. That fat little bastard is dangerous. He looks like he would play with nukes like he's playing Nintendo.

sear
04-09-2017, 01:26 PM
China will sober up, or pay the price.

jimnyc
04-10-2017, 12:42 PM
Solve the little fat kid with about 100 of these...

https://i.imgur.com/lcpEzve.jpg

Kathianne
04-10-2017, 03:16 PM
I have long said that if WWIII happens, it will be caused by North Korea. Not the ME. I still think so.

There are nutters, and then there are NUTTERS.

You may be right, though I think it's entirely possible NK will toss a nuke, it will then cease to exist. I guess the follow up by China or whomever will decide where it goes from there.

Abbey Marie
04-10-2017, 03:29 PM
You may be right, though I think it's entirely possible NK will toss a nuke, it will then cease to exist. I guess the follow up by China or whomever will decide where it goes from there.

Yeah, I'm not saying NK would win. Just that they would cause it.

Kathianne
04-10-2017, 03:35 PM
Yeah, I'm not saying NK would win. Just that they would cause it.

It takes a 'perfect storm' of events and players to lead to a WW. IMO, WWII was really just a continuation of the first. All the alliances and intrigue across world capitals made it nearly inevitable.

In a sense, we are seeing some of that today, though NK would not likely be a trigger as they are pretty isolated by choice and sanctions, IMO. That doesn't mean that their shooting a nuke whether at the South or Japan, or Hawaii wouldn't be horrendous, without a doubt it would be and all should be done to prevent it.

Watching the ME, now with a rising Iran, major power Russia, the whole Muslim/terror connections, world war could certainly be possible.

pete311
04-10-2017, 06:10 PM
You may be right, though I think it's entirely possible NK will toss a nuke, it will then cease to exist. I guess the follow up by China or whomever will decide where it goes from there.

Exactly, so why would they. Kim Jung and the NK elite live like kings. You think they'd mess with that?

Elessar
04-10-2017, 06:34 PM
Exactly, so why would they. Kim Jung and the NK elite live like kings. You think they'd mess with that?

Yeah....

In NK any hint of dissent toward the Pillsbury Dough Boy is struck down. He has even
murdered relatives and top officers.

Seems he wants to follow in the footsteps of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Saddam, Quadiffi, and Bashard.

Kathianne
04-10-2017, 06:48 PM
Yeah....

In NK any hint of dissent toward the Pillsbury Dough Boy is struck down. He has even
murdered relatives and top officers.

Seems he wants to follow in the footsteps of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Saddam, Quadiffi, and Bashard.

and how did their lives end? LOL!

The problem is, just like the others, he'll take the people or many of them out with him.

pete311
04-10-2017, 06:53 PM
Yeah....

In NK any hint of dissent toward the Pillsbury Dough Boy is struck down. He has even
murdered relatives and top officers.

Seems he wants to follow in the footsteps of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Saddam, Quadiffi, and Bashard.

I don't see the incentive for them. He is not suicidal.

Kathianne
04-10-2017, 06:56 PM
I don't see the incentive for them. He is not suicidal.

You don't know that. I do think he is a megalomaniac. He may feel that nothing will hurt him, like a god.

Elessar
04-10-2017, 06:57 PM
I don't see the incentive for them. He is not suicidal.

You just never know. Cornered, he could be rather than face justice.

Kathianne
04-10-2017, 07:00 PM
I read this in the morning, didn't know if anyone else would be interested. Seems like it's showing up on more and more sites, so:

https://qz.com/950488/nasty-brutish-and-short-what-the-next-korean-war-will-look-like/

Black Diamond
04-10-2017, 07:08 PM
I don't see the incentive for them. He is not suicidal.
Actually he may be the most dangerous man on earth.

Black Diamond
04-10-2017, 07:22 PM
I read this in the morning, didn't know if anyone else would be interested. Seems like it's showing up on more and more sites, so:

https://qz.com/950488/nasty-brutish-and-short-what-the-next-korean-war-will-look-like/
Oc
of course I am interested.

Gunny
04-10-2017, 07:25 PM
Actually he may be the most dangerous man on earth.To respond to the question in the OP ... Tell China to reign in fatboy or we don't want to hear any crying from them if WE do it. Kim is not really an issue. China's reaction to us going after him is the issue.

Black Diamond
04-10-2017, 07:34 PM
To respond to the question in the OP ... Tell China to reign in fatboy or we don't want to hear any crying from them if WE do it. Kim is not really an issue. China's reaction to us going after him is the issue.
Well yeah. Don't want another 1950. Times 10

hjmick
04-10-2017, 07:38 PM
Don't forget folks, the Korean war never really ended...

Gunny
04-10-2017, 07:49 PM
Well yeah. Don't want another 1950. Times 10Dynamics and technology are way different. For us. China could not beat us in a war. Their military technology is based on duplicating Russian junk and their war plan is based on overwhelming numbers. The latter is their advantage tactically. We can beat that. Korea is a peninsula.

The question would be how far they willing to escalate?

Abbey Marie
04-10-2017, 07:54 PM
Dynamics and technology are way different. For us. China could not beat us in a war. Their military technology is based on duplicating Russian junk and their war plan is based on overwhelming numbers. The latter is their advantage tactically. We can beat that. Korea is a peninsula.

The question would be how far they willing to escalate?

I have no expertise in this area, but they do have a boatload of cannon fodder.

NightTrain
04-10-2017, 08:05 PM
Well yeah. Don't want another 1950. Times 10

You mean...

19,500?

Holy crap!

Black Diamond
04-10-2017, 08:09 PM
You mean...

19,500?

Holy crap!
Yes. That is the mark of the beast. It is so evil, I wont even type its actual number.

NightTrain
04-10-2017, 08:12 PM
Yes. That is the mark of the beast. It is so evil, I wont even type its actual number.

I immediately thought of this :

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Black Diamond
04-10-2017, 08:19 PM
W
I immediately thought of this :

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Awwec ballwin

Gunny
04-10-2017, 08:27 PM
I have no expertise in this area, but they do have a boatload of cannon fodder.They have the numbers. But an idiot with a rifle is an idiot WITH A RIFLE. An idiot can shoot you just as dead as a sniper. In the Korean War, they overwhelmed us with numbers. And they STILL didn't win. They tried their best to take out the Marines and while the Marines withdrew to the cover of Naval firepower, they (the gooks) got their asses kicked the whole way and we brought home all our dead. The Battle of the Chosin Resovoir is famous in Marine Corps history. We had to fight our way out against the Chinese Army and we didn't take no shit.

And yes I said "we". Ain't a football game. We're all brothers in blood.