NK Fat Boy at It Again

[Elessar]

Now he is threatening Australia!

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/04/23/north-korea-threatens-australia-with-nuclear-strike-over-toeing-line-with-us-alliance/22051796/

He sure knows how to win friends and influence people.:laugh:

[Black Diamond]

Would love to put a rocket in his living room.

[Elessar]

Would love to put a rocket in his living room.

I do not doubt at all that there are "a few" contingencies on the board by now.

The command and control mechanism in NK has likely been identified and would
likely be 'paid a visit'!

[aboutime]

I believe the LITTLE FAT BOY in N.K.'s DAYS ARE NUMBERED.
Anyone who looks back at History, (honestly), knows what happened to other's who thought they could run the show.:blowup::fu:

[Black Diamond]

I do not doubt at all that there are "a few" contingencies on the board by now.

The command and control mechanism in NK has likely been identified and would
likely be 'paid a visit'!
Remember Libya?

[Gunny]

Taking him out wouldn't be that hard. The problem is there is no escape and evade route. Too many miles. Don't think there's not an idiot just like him waiting in the wings. It'd be a one way mission.

[pete311]

Trump won't do anything. Mark my words.

[Black Diamond]

Trump won't do anything. Mark my words.
He has to do something. What do you mean by "Won't do anything "

[pete311]

He has to do something. What do you mean by "Won't do anything "
I should clarify. He won't do anything militarily. The Chinese hold the solution, but I can't imagine the circumstances where they would help. China does not want a unified Korea at their border.

[aboutime]

Trump won't do anything. Mark my words.


Okay petey. With all of your State Department, and Military expertise. Why don't you tell us HOW you know so much? I'm MARKING YOUR WORDS.

P.S. Trump is not YOU, or any Obama-ite who obviously WON'T DO ANYTHING.

[Drummond]

I should clarify. He won't do anything militarily. The Chinese hold the solution, but I can't imagine the circumstances where they would help. China does not want a unified Korea at their border.

Trump's made it clear that N Korea won't be tolerated any longer. Now ... maybe he is working with the Chinese on a solution. Maybe - though I somehow doubt it - this won't involve a military answer.

I don't care how it's done, just so long as Trump backs up his stance of zero toleration. The 'fat boy' has to learn that nobody will tolerate his war-happy behaviour any longer. Through this ... the world's more rogue powers, in turn, get to understand that they, too, had better be careful what they say or do ...

[Having said that 'I don't care how it's done' .... I personally think the only ultimately effective way of dealing with this IS through military action. Something highly targeted, some surgical strikes, maybe, aimed at targets that'll do the most damage to their military infrastructure. Maybe some nuke facilities (whatever they have of that kind) ... ?]

[Gunny]

Trump won't do anything. Mark my words.More importantly, Trump SHOULDN'T do anything. Fatass is contained. He's stuck on a peninsula and that no escape and evade route door swings in both directions. He's making noise becauseto clean he wants something.

I know the guy is a total dumbass, but he can't be THAT dumb. He wouldn't stand a chance in a war. He just feels left out and wants attention. Poor little baby boy feels neglected by the world stage.

In the meantime, Trump has enough of Obama's messes to clean up without creating a new one.

[Gunny]

I should clarify. He won't do anything militarily. The Chinese hold the solution, but I can't imagine the circumstances where they would help. China does not want a unified Korea at their border.What are the Chinese supposed to do? They don't want another war. I'm surprised CHINA has taken out N Korea. What a liability to have moron running around firing off missiles. He's like my little brother. Run your mouth and then say "My brother will kick your ass if you touch me". Came a day I just let him get his ass beat. I was tired of his mouth starting fights I had to finish.

I don't think China has as much sway as people think. This isn't 1952. The world stage, along with China have moved on. This assclown is still playing 1950.

[Gunny]

Okay petey. With all of your State Department, and Military expertise. Why don't you tell us HOW you know so much? I'm MARKING YOUR WORDS.

P.S. Trump is not YOU, or any Obama-ite who obviously WON'T DO ANYTHING.Remember that pld saying "Easier to get forgiveness than permission"? Under the guise of a Naval exercise nearby, I'd blow his ass off the map. The Chinese can cry tomorrow all they want. What's done is done.

[Gunny]

Trump's made it clear that N Korea won't be tolerated any longer. Now ... maybe he is working with the Chinese on a solution. Maybe - though I somehow doubt it - this won't involve a military answer.

I don't care how it's done, just so long as Trump backs up his stance of zero toleration. The 'fat boy' has to learn that nobody will tolerate his war-happy behaviour any longer. Through this ... the world's more rogue powers, in turn, get to understand that they, too, had better be careful what they say or do ...

[Having said that 'I don't care how it's done' .... I personally think the only ultimately effective way of dealing with this IS through military action. Something highly targeted, some surgical strikes, maybe, aimed at targets that'll do the most damage to their military infrastructure. Maybe some nuke facilities (whatever they have of that kind) ... ?]Doesn't matter how it's done. I was pointing out the tactical disadvantage for a sniper to take just him out. You KNOW how the left and MSM is going to wail loud enough to be heard in Heaven if someone else is so much nicked by an airstrike. Trump will be labeled a mass murderer and war criminal.

Besides all that and what we don't seem to be able to comprehend as a society is you aren't going to change a culture by taking out one person. You can't offer democracy and freedom to people that don't understand what those words mean. N Koreans have been socialist/totalitarian since the end of WWII. We pulled it off in Germany and Japan because we are STILL in both places. Our politicians are so caught up in partisan politics they can't stay the course and win anymore. It's been a circle jerk for us since Truman and Korea. We'll go in kicking ass then some will vote in a Dem who's half white, claims he's black, then declares victory and creates ISIS with his dumbass decision.

I don't like Gen MacArthur as a person is ANY way. But he was right.

[Abbey Marie]

I should clarify. He won't do anything militarily. The Chinese hold the solution, but I can't imagine the circumstances where they would help. China does not want a unified Korea at their border.

Why not a unified democratic Korea? Would be much less crazy and militaristic than KJU is.
And if you think they worry about a unification enabling the US military to establish a presence there, we already did.

[Gunny]

Why not a unified democratic Korea? Would be much less crazy and militaristic than KJU is.
And if you think they worry about a unification enabling the US military to establish a presence there, we already did.We wouldn't need to be there if Korea was unified. Fact is, Korea hasn't been unified in centuries except when Japan occupied it. It was 3 separate countries. I honestly don't know what their cultural issues are. I only know that much from Tang Soo Do. Their issues are political. The difference between a N Korean and a S Korean? The 38th Parallel.

[Black Diamond]

Why not a unified democratic Korea? Would be much less crazy and militaristic than KJU is.
And if you think they worry about a unification enabling the US military to establish a presence there, we already did.
Historically the Russians and Chinese have wanted a buffer between them and capitalism. That's why, as Gunny can tell you better than I can, the Chinese invaded North Korea when we had the war won in 1950.

[pete311]

Historically the Russians and Chinese have wanted a buffer between them and capitalism. That's why, as Gunny can tell you better than I can, the Chinese invaded North Korea when we had the war won in 1950.
Exactly, both Russia and China want to be surrounded by countries they can "control" or have similar setups. Which is why the old soviet countries joining the EU is extremely threatening to Russia. North Korea is a similar buffer for China. I've also heard there is speculation that war in North Korea or a liberated North Korea would send millions of migrants to the Chinese border and they don't want to deal with that.

[Gunny]

Exactly, both Russia and China want to be surrounded by countries they can "control" or have similar setups. Which is why the old soviet countries joining the EU is extremely threatening to Russia. North Korea is a similar buffer for China. I've also heard there is speculation that war in North Korea or a liberated North Korea would send millions of migrants to the Chinese border and they don't want to deal with that.You are partly correct. Your history is a tad bit off though. Russia doesn't want anything to do with the place. It was at FDR's insistence the Russians opened a front in Korea. Contrary to popular belief all commies are not the same commies. The Russians and Chinese don't like each other. They supplied Uncle Ho separately not jointly. Same with N Korea. Russia washed their hands of the place.

It was not so much wanting a buffer zone. It was drawing a line in a war based on ideology. It was them vs us. What the Little Dictator doesn't get is we don't live in that time anymore. He's all alone in his own little world. I got a 4 years old granddaughter that jumps up and down and says "Look at me".

[Abbey Marie]

Historically the Russians and Chinese have wanted a buffer between them and capitalism. That's why, as Gunny can tell you better than I can, the Chinese invaded North Korea when we had the war won in 1950.

I hear ya. But I still have to think that this loose cannon may pose a bigger threat because of the situations he can put China in by attacking other powers.

Plus, China's massive trade with us is a huge embrace of Capitalism in itself.

[Gunny]

I hear ya. But I still have to think that this loose cannon may pose a bigger threat because of the situations he can put China in by attacking other powers.

Plus, China's massive trade with us is a huge embrace of Capitalism in itself.And who suffers the most if we freeze China's assets with us? N Korea will be the first place.

[Elessar]

One thing I think dough-boy tends to forget is that if he pisses off the Aussies,
the Brits and Canadians are likely to hitch up.

Then maybe the Germans and even the French.

That lad is painting himself into a corner.

[Black Diamond]

One thing I think dough-boy tends to forget is that if he pisses off the Aussies,
the Brits and Canadians are likely to hitch up.

Then maybe the Germans and even the French.

That lad is painting himself into a corner.
That may be pushing it. :cool:

[Gunny]

That may be pushing it. :cool:They'll surrender.:laugh:

[aboutime]

You all need to know. As we speak here. The U.S.Navy now has more power with their presence in the Sea of Japan, than all of the Bombs, Ships, Planes, and Manpower used during the SECOND WORLD WAR. With enough left over to take their remaining weapons to the PERSIAN GULF, and make large WALMART parking lots.
Anyone who thinks TRUMP doesn't know that...needs to dig a hole, and hide.

[Gunny]

You all need to know. As we speak here. The U.S.Navy now has more power with their presence in the Sea of Japan, than all of the Bombs, Ships, Planes, and Manpower used during the SECOND WORLD WAR. With enough left over to take their remaining weapons to the PERSIAN GULF, and make large WALMART parking lots.
Anyone who thinks TRUMP doesn't know that...needs to dig a hole, and hide.
I'm aware. I just was trying to avoid saying anything.

[aboutime]

I'm aware. I just was trying to avoid saying anything.


I know Gunny. All of the Vets here know exactly what I was talking about.

That's the great thing about being a Veteran. We have the experience to back it up.:salute:

[Gunny]

I know Gunny. All of the Vets here know exactly what I was talking about.

That's the great thing about being a Veteran. We have the experience to back it up.:salute:I just don't know what is and isn't clear to talk about. I retired 17 years ago. My name's not Hitlery. It's STILL classified to me. I know what's there. Little fat boy better get him a room in China. Ain't going to much left but a crater if we hit that gravel pit.

[aboutime]

I just don't know what is and isn't clear to talk about. I retired 17 years ago. My name's not Hitlery. It's STILL classified to me. I know what's there. Little fat boy better get him a room in China. Ain't going to much left but a crater if we hit that gravel pit.


Gunny. Everything is CLEAR to talk about now. The FIRST Amendment hasn't been taken away by the Dems, Hillary, Obama, and all the ignorant Haters yet.

[Gunny]

Gunny. Everything is CLEAR to talk about now. The FIRST Amendment hasn't been taken away by the Dems, Hillary, Obama, and all the ignorant Haters yet.By law, I am not allowed to talk. I have to just stay general. You know the drill.

[aboutime]

By law, I am not allowed to talk. I have to just stay general. You know the drill.


Come on Gunny. I handled SIOP, TOP SECRET, SECRET, and CONFIDENTIAL materials for more than 20 years. There is no law that prevents you, or me from talking unless you desire to expose classified information. That's not what I am doing, nor are you. It would be impossible to remember everything we viewed, said, or saw anyway.

What our navy is doing, and their capabilities are PUBLIC information. There are more lies out there on the Internet than HONEST facts anyhow.
So.Feel free to talk as much as you want. That doesn't play anymore, unless you want it to.

[Gunny]

Come on Gunny. I handled SIOP, TOP SECRET, SECRET, and CONFIDENTIAL materials for more than 20 years. There is no law that prevents you, or me from talking unless you desire to expose classified information. That's not what I am doing, nor are you. It would be impossible to remember everything we viewed, said, or saw anyway.

What our navy is doing, and their capabilities are PUBLIC information. There are more lies out there on the Internet than HONEST facts anyhow.
So.Feel free to talk as much as you want. That doesn't play anymore, unless you want it to.I don't mind talking at all, AT. I had a TS. I know a lot of sh*t. Since I had those strokes I don't remember what I can talk about. I have to err on the side of caution.

What you say is completely true. They won't know what hit their asses. I know what's there. I'm just not going to put it on a board a bunch of commies like to visit. They can get their "Hello Kitty" surprise the hard way.

[aboutime]

I don't mind talking at all, AT. I had a TS. I know a lot of sh*t. Since I had those strokes I don't remember what I can talk about. I have to err on the side of caution.

What you say is completely true. They won't know what hit their asses. I know what's there. I'm just not going to put it on a board a bunch of commies like to visit. They can get their "Hello Kitty" surprise the hard way.

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