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Kathianne
05-27-2017, 11:31 AM
his plans. pete311 guess his family wasn't taking care of him either?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/exclusive-manchester-suicide-bomber-used-student-loan-benefits/


Exclusive: Manchester suicide bomber used student loan and benefits to fund terror plot Robert Mendick (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/robert-mendick/), chief reporter
Martin Evans (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/martin-evans/)
Victoria Ward (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/victoria-ward/)

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</time>The Manchester suicide bomber used taxpayer-funded student loans and benefits to bankroll the terror plot, police believe.
Salman Abedi is understood to have received thousands of pounds in state funding in the run up to Monday’s atrocity even while he was overseas receiving bomb-making training.

Police are investigating Abedi’s finances, including how he paid for frequent trips to Libya where he is thought to have been taught to make bombs at a jihadist training camp.

In further developments, a barber shop in Manchester was raided with one theory that Abedi may have obtained hydrogen peroxide - a chemical used in the hairdressing industry but which can also be used to construct bombs - from the salon. (Two of his cousins owned the barber shop. They've been arrested.)

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Abedi was given at least £7,000 from the taxpayer-funded Student Loans Company after beginning a business administration degree at Salford University in October 2015.





It is thought he received a further £7,000 in the 2016 academic year even though by then he had already dropped out of the course. Salford University declined to say if it had informed the Student Loans Company that Abedi’s funding should have been stopped.

Separately, the Department for Work and Pensions refused to say if Abedi had received any benefits, including housing benefit and income support worth up to £250 a week, during 2015 and 2016. It would only say he was not claiming benefits in the weeks before the attack.

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Abedi, 22, never held down a job, according to neighbours and friends, but was able to travel regularly between the UK and Libya.
Abedi also had sufficient funds to buy materials for his sophisticated bomb while living in a rented house in south Manchester.
Six weeks before the bombing Abedi rented a second property in a block of flats in Blackley eight miles from his home, paying £700 in cash.

He had enough money to rent a third property in the centre of Manchester from where he set off with a backpack containing the bomb.
Abedi also withdrew £250 in cash three days before the attack and transferred £2,500 to his younger brother Hashim in Libya, who is accused of knowing about the attack in advance.

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Abbey Marie
05-27-2017, 12:32 PM
his plans. @pete311 (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=1821) guess his family wasn't taking care of him either?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/exclusive-manchester-suicide-bomber-used-student-loan-benefits/








Why do you want to make my blood pressure go up?

Kathianne
05-27-2017, 12:34 PM
Why do you want to make my blood pressure go up?

My apologies. ;)

This is not the first one, as so many progressives would attest, Europe is so much more generous to their 'needy.'

pete311
05-27-2017, 01:36 PM
his plans. @pete311 (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=1821) guess his family wasn't taking care of him either?





Please explain what this has to do with me

Kathianne
05-27-2017, 02:16 PM
Please explain what this has to do with me

I don't underestimate your ability to understand the sarcasm. Tightening up on the 'social welfare state' has more than a few good reasons. :laugh2:

pete311
05-27-2017, 02:38 PM
I don't underestimate your ability to understand the sarcasm. Tightening up on the 'social welfare state' has more than a few good reasons. :laugh2:

Ah brilliant Kath, one case :clap: Lame, I expect better from you.

btw, curious, are you against loans? No problem with his student loans? After all, shouldn't we be "responsible" and pay only what we have. Loans appear to finance terror. We should get rid of loans.

Kathianne
05-27-2017, 02:47 PM
Ah brilliant Kath, one case :clap: Lame, I expect better from you.

btw, curious, are you against loans? No problem with his student loans? After all, shouldn't we be "responsible" and pay only what we have. Loans appear to finance terror. We should get rid of loans.


As pointed out in the article, which I'm certain you took the time to read, they should be closely monitored. They. Are. Not. Not in UK, not here.

pete311
05-27-2017, 02:48 PM
As pointed out in the article, which I'm certain you took the time to read, they should be closely monitored. They. Are. Not. Not in UK, not here.

Monitor a loan, what? Once you have the cash you can spend it how you want, there is not time to monitor, especially if you want to cause trouble in relative quick time.

Kathianne
05-27-2017, 02:50 PM
Monitor a loan, what? Once you have the cash you can spend it how you want, there is not time to monitor, especially if you want to cause trouble in relative quick time.


Actually, like a construction loan, there is a specific purpose for the loan. It should be enforced by the institution meant for, as well as the lender.

pete311
05-27-2017, 02:50 PM
Maybe we should be more selective in giving loans, but oops, that would require regulation.

pete311
05-27-2017, 02:52 PM
Actually, like a construction loan, there is a specific purpose for the loan. It should be enforced by the institution meant for, as well as the lender.

How do banks ensure that money is only spent on the specific purpose?

Kathianne
05-27-2017, 02:58 PM
How do banks ensure that money is only spent on the specific purpose?

Having the payee be the one to whom the money is intended is one way. School loans should not be allowed for use other than university related. If a student wants a car or money to get back and forth, work or hope for gifts. If someone wants an education, the loans are enough of a 'hand up.'

pete311
05-27-2017, 03:01 PM
Having the payee be the one to whom the money is intended is one way.

Agreed, but that requires regulation. Thought ya'll were against that. Free the markets!

Kathianne
05-27-2017, 03:05 PM
Agreed, but that requires regulation. Thought ya'll were against that. Free the markets!

School loans should never have been 'free market.' It was much better regulated when it was through banks acting as conduit for the government.