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avatar4321

08-07-2007, 03:05 AM

New rumor: He is announcing on September 5th.

Black Lance

08-07-2007, 10:21 AM

Somewhat anti-climatic, everyone knows he is in the race. Any word on how much he'll have in his warchest at the outset?

nevadamedic

08-07-2007, 11:14 AM

New rumor: He is announcing on September 5th.

He is such a tool.

red states rule

08-07-2007, 11:25 AM

Somewhat anti-climatic, everyone knows he is in the race. Any word on how much he'll have in his warchest at the outset?

Fred will make a good VP choice for Rudy

Rudy/Fred would easily beat Hilary/Obama

Pale Rider

08-07-2007, 04:51 PM

Fred will make a good VP choice for Rudy

Rudy/Fred would easily beat Hilary/Obama

Hitlery and Obama Bin Laden.... there is no way in hell those two can get elected... against ANYONE!

And I'll back that claim up. I'll bet anyone here.

red states rule

08-07-2007, 04:52 PM

Hitery and Obama Bin Laden.... there is no way in hell those two can get elected... against ANYONE!

And I'll back that claim up. I'll bet anyone here.

Hey, no argument from me

I hope the Dems go with that ticket. It is sure loser

avatar4321

08-07-2007, 04:58 PM

Hey, no argument from me

I hope the Dems go with that ticket. It is sure loser

im not sure there is a Democrat ticket that wouldnt be a sure loser.

red states rule

08-07-2007, 05:02 PM

im not sure there is a Democrat ticket that wouldnt be a sure loser.

Hillary and Obama would be a sure loser in the Electoral college

MtnBiker

08-07-2007, 06:10 PM

Rudy/Fred would easily beat Hilary/Obama

What make you think it will be a Hilary/Obama ticket?

red states rule

08-07-2007, 06:12 PM

What make you think it will be a Hilary/Obama ticket?

They are the top two vote getters right now

Granted it is early - but it is a good possibility

MtnBiker

08-07-2007, 06:19 PM

They are the top two vote getters right now

Granted it is early - but it is a good possibility

How many votes was Chenney getting in the 2000 primary?

red states rule

08-07-2007, 06:25 PM

How many votes was Chenney getting in the 2000 primary?

I do not see anyone the Red Queen could add that would help her in the Electoral College

Black Lance

08-07-2007, 08:07 PM

Fred will make a good VP choice for Rudy

Rudy/Fred would easily beat Hilary/Obama

Rudy = Liberal in Republican clothing. In terms of social policy you might as well vote for Hillary Clinton.

red states rule

08-08-2007, 04:14 AM

Rudy = Liberal in Republican clothing. In terms of social policy you might as well vote for Hillary Clinton.

Unlike a real lib, he will not pas laws to impose his personal views on the rest of America

red states rule

08-08-2007, 06:15 AM

August 07, 2007
Trouble For Fred Thompson?
Ed Lasky
On the Fred Thompson front, ABC's Jack Tapper explores his time on the Watergate committee, and finds that "the reality is far more complicated than conventional wisdom and campaign puffery would have it." Thompson writes in his own book that he tipped off the Nixon White House that investigators knew about the secret taping system, "even though I had no authority to act for the committee." And "new transcripts from the Nixon White House tapes reveal that the Nixon administration regarded Thompson as a useful idiot -- 'dumb as hell,' in President Nixon's words, but 'friendly,' " Tapper reports.

For the Fred watchers out there, his non-campaign yesterday unveiled "Version 2.0" of its Web site,( http://www.imwithfred.com) If there was a new version for every staff shakeup, wouldn't we be getting into the double digits soon?.

To quote Nixon, if you're "dumb as hell" and need a hint, ABC's Christine Byun reports on this update from the site: "One can't help but see that Thompson again might be hearing the call to serve." "Can't help but see" that he "might be hearing"? Clear to me . . .

The New York Sun's Seth Gitell looks at Thompson's wait-it-out strategy and finds the thinking to be "flawed." "Since when has 'strategy' been an excuse for laziness?" Gitell writes. "The next four years is not the time for a slacker president."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/08/trouble_for_fred_thompson.html

KarlMarx

08-08-2007, 06:16 AM

I believe the reason he hasn't announced yet is because his campaign is short on funds. An article I read recently said that he has raised only 3 million dollars.

red states rule

08-08-2007, 06:18 AM

I believe the reason he hasn't announced yet is because his campaign is short on funds. An article I read recently said that he has raised only 3 million dollars.

It is getting way to late for him to run. He would be a good choice for VP however

Gunny

08-08-2007, 10:57 AM

Rudy = Liberal in Republican clothing. In terms of social policy you might as well vote for Hillary Clinton.

There are a couple of so called conservatives here not quite right in the head. Thompson has the best chance of any Republican candidate consolidating the conservative vote.

The rest are going to alienate one group or the other and lose.

Black Lance

08-08-2007, 12:55 PM

Unlike a real lib, he will not pas laws to impose his personal views on the rest of America

On what issue?

Black Lance

08-08-2007, 12:58 PM

There are a couple of so called conservatives here not quite right in the head. Thompson has the best chance of any Republican candidate consolidating the conservative vote.

The rest are going to alienate one group or the other and lose.

Agreed. I don't think Republicans will really turn out to support any candidate except Fred Thompson. McCain is done for, Rudy is a liberals with an (R) after his name, and if Massachuttes liberals can't win as Democrats they are unlikely to win as Republicans.

But personally, I'm still rooting for Ron Paul. :)

Gunny

08-08-2007, 08:50 PM

Agreed. I don't think Republicans will really turn out to support any candidate except Fred Thompson. McCain is done for, Rudy is a liberals with an (R) after his name, and if Massachuttes liberals can't win as Democrats they are unlikely to win as Republicans.

But personally, I'm still rooting for Ron Paul. :)

Don't know a lot about Paul. I just know he, Romney, Guilliani have about a snowball's chance in Hell of pulling conservatives together to vote. Thompson can, and I want to see what happens to Gulliani's numbers when Thompson officially announces.

Black Lance

08-08-2007, 09:44 PM

Don't know a lot about Paul. I just know he, Romney, Guilliani have about a snowball's chance in Hell of pulling conservatives together to vote. Thompson can, and I want to see what happens to Gulliani's numbers when Thompson officially announces.

He's a Republican candidate, who favors low taxes, small government, free markets, responsible fiscal policy, and other concepts that put liberals to sleep.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

If Ron Paul somehow won the nomination I think he would crush any of the Democratic candidates, especially Hillary. He is a social conservative, but he also favors as phased withdrawal from Iraq and eliminating some of the free trade pacts that have produced nothing but misery for the working and middle classes. He could present himself as an authentic centrist candidate very easily, and on top of that he is a very likeable person, certainly more so than Hillary or Gulliani, both of whom often seem so wrapped up in themselves that you're inclined to wonder how they avoid suffocating under the weight of their own egoism.

red states rule

08-08-2007, 10:17 PM

On what issue?

gun control, abortion, and gay marriage

On SC Judges, he has said many times the Judges we would nominate are of the mold of Thomas and Scilia

Gunny

08-08-2007, 10:21 PM

He's a Republican candidate, who favors low taxes, small government, free markets, responsible fiscal policy, and other concepts that put liberals to sleep.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

If Ron Paul somehow won the nomination I think he would crush any of the Democratic candidates, especially Hillary. He is a social conservative, but he also favors as phased withdrawal from Iraq and eliminating some of the free trade pacts that have produced nothing but misery for the working and middle classes. He could present himself as an authentic centrist candidate very easily, and on top of that he is a very likeable person, certainly more so than Hillary or Gulliani, both of whom often seem so wrapped up in themselves that you're inclined to wonder how they avoid suffocating under the weight of their own egoism.

At least he appears to be a conservative. Guilliani is a damned liberal with an (R) behind his name.

JohnDoe

08-08-2007, 11:06 PM

I am not certain Thompson stands a chance...

[
Reprinted from NewsMax.com

Fred Thompson's Trophy Wife
Susan Estrich
Friday, July 13, 2007

Fred Thompson, would-be presidential candidate, is 64 years old and looks it. His wife, Jeri, is two years younger than one of his daughters and looks even younger than her 40 years.

They have had two babies together since they married in 2002.

Does it matter?

Imagine if Hillary Clinton were married to a 36-year-old stud. She'd be laughed out of town. Imagine, at 60, if she decided she wanted two more children. Too old, we'd all be screaming.

So, does anyone care when Fred Thompson does it?

There have been pictures of the buxom and beautiful Jeri Thompson circulating on the Web for months. Last weekend, the story broke into the mainstream media when The New York Times asked whether the country was ready for a president with a "trophy wife."

This term is generally used to refer to women who are substantially younger, less wrinkled, and sometimes, but not always, more accomplished than the old model. The old model was there when the guy was nobody, offering him support, cleaning the house, and giving birth to the children who are now older than the new edition.

Thompson supporters, and even some who aren't, went slightly nuts at the audacity of The New York Times for even asking the question.

Imagine, the mainstream media descending to discuss what bloggers have been talking about for months. Are there no standards?

Putting aside that little piece of hypocrisy, as well as the one about how all of us would react if the genders were switched, the question remains whether voters will actually care.

Will men be jealous, or impressed?

Will women say "ick" and be turned off?

The conventional wisdom, which is that because it has been proven true for so long, is that wives matter even less than running mates in determining votes for the presidency. The most likeable candidate may have a determinative advantage, the old "who would you rather have a beer, alcoholic or not, with?" But likeable wives don't move votes.

Betty Ford was widely admired, more so than her husband, and more so than Rosalynn Carter; but that didn't save President Ford from defeat. Nancy Reagan didn't become beloved, if she even is, until long after her husband left the White House and people changed their view of her from astrology aficionado and fan of expensive china to loving caretaker of her sick husband.

Hillary Clinton was not exactly the poster girl for popular first ladies, as opposed to everyone's grandmother Barbara Bush, or the Southern charm and less threatening smarts of Liddy Dole. But that didn't save Bob Dole from ending up selling Viagra instead of running the White House.

Most recently, even Democrats wrung their hands at Teresa Heinz, a different kind of trophy wife (the kind who could afford to buy a whole case of them), and wondered what it said about the senator that he had managed to fall in love with one of the richest women in Washington (love may be blind, but it sure ain't dumb).

Yet, I don't think anyone who studied the race closely would blame Kerry's loss on his wife's perceived arrogance or pronounced accent. And, certainly, Judith Giuliani has a long way to go before shedding the image of the "other woman" and adulterous stepmother, but I'm not the least bit certain Rudy would be faring any differently if the mother of his children, and his children for that matter, were by his side.

There's even greater evidence that running mates don't matter, and if the guy who is a heartbeat away from the presidency doesn't influence votes, why would the woman who is on the other side of the bed?

I will never forget waiting for the returns from our pollster the night Lloyd Bentsen absolutely trumped Dan Quayle in the vice presidential debate ("I knew John Kennedy. He was a friend of mine. And senator, you're no John Kennedy."), only to get the word that while Bentsen's own reputation had soared, support for the Dukakis-Bentsen ticket had barely budged.

You know when you hear those heartbeat ads that desperate candidates ask — who do you want a heartbeat away from the president — it's because the guy at the top of the ticket is in big trouble.

All of this should support the view that Jeri Thompson's assets are irrelevant to her husband's prospects. But I don't buy it for a moment — at least not among women of a certain age, both married and single, who are liable to play a decisive role in this campaign, particularly if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic candidate.

The reaction I hear from every woman I know, those who have gotten sick to their stomachs over seeing middle-aged men cavorting with girls barely beyond their teen years, is a giant "yuck."

What does it say about a man who's busy having babies only two years after being diagnosed with lymphoma? What does it say that he'd rather be with someone who wasn't even alive when JFK was shot, or at least was too young to remember where she was?

What does it say that he doesn't care that she doesn't remember the songs and the history and the fears we grew up with? Where does it leave those of us who do?

Dateless is where. And maybe voting no.

I can't help it. It makes me like Fred Thompson less. And I can't believe I'm the only one.

COPYRIGHT 2007 CREATORS SYNDICATE INC.

stephanie

08-08-2007, 11:33 PM

nevadamedic

08-08-2007, 11:57 PM

Fred will make a good VP choice for Rudy

Rudy/Fred would easily beat Hilary/Obama

Nononononono Tancredo should get the VP spot if he doesn't win the primaries.:salute:

nevadamedic

08-08-2007, 11:58 PM

I believe the reason he hasn't announced yet is because his campaign is short on funds. An article I read recently said that he has raised only 3 million dollars.

The main reason he hasn't announced yet is that he can't get much support from the Republican Party, he is not liked within the Party.

nevadamedic

08-08-2007, 11:59 PM

It is getting way to late for him to run. He would be a good choice for VP however

:slap::poke::slap:

hjmick

08-09-2007, 12:00 AM

The main reason he hasn't announced yet is that he can't get much support from the Republican Party, he is not liked within the Party.

All the more reason to vote for him.

nevadamedic

08-09-2007, 12:00 AM

At least he appears to be a conservative. Guilliani is a damned liberal with an (R) behind his name.

A Conservative that supports Abortion hmmmmmmmmmmm

stephanie

08-09-2007, 12:13 AM

I've heard one reason F. Thompson hasn't announced yet, is he was still under contract with Law and Order...

Plus, why should he announce this friggen early...
I'm already sick of all the Presidential campaigning crap.....

And who cares if the Republican party doesn't like him...I'm pretty ticked off at the Republican party, myself....

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/git.gifRUN FRED RUNhttp://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/git.gif

nevadamedic

08-09-2007, 12:15 AM

stephanie

08-09-2007, 12:19 AM

He's a bloody Liberal disguised ad a Conservative.

Pfeeeeeeeeeeeeessssh

Have you looked at his voting history, and his conservative ratings????

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/music015.gifRun Fred Runhttp://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/music015.gif

red states rule

08-09-2007, 04:30 AM

A Conservative that supports Abortion hmmmmmmmmmmm

Does this sound like a liberals record?

Through robust policing, Giuliani drove overall crime down 56.1 percent, while chopping homicides 66.6 percent, from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001.

Following national trends, abortions on Giuliani’s watch dropped 16.9 percent, while taxpayer-funded Medicaid abortions plunged 23 percent.

Gotham’s foster-care population fell 38 percent as Giuliani helped loving families adopt 17,804 boys and girls.

By fighting fraud and finding work for legitimate beneficiaries, Giuliani cut welfare rolls 58 percent, starting two years before federal welfare reform. Giuliani renamed welfare offices “Job Centers.”

Giuliani privatized 23,625 previously confiscated, city-owned dwellings, 78 percent of supply, benefiting family and individual homeowners and tenants.

Giuliani dumped Gotham’s 20 percent set-aside and 10 percent overbid bonus for minority and female contractors. “The whole idea of quotas to me perpetuates discrimination,” he explained. He initiated this on his 24th day in office, far exceeding any colorblindness legislation Congress even debated during the 12-year “Republican Revolution.”

Giuliani’s $10 million Charter School Improvement Fund helped 3,286 pupils in 17 new charter schools, up from $0 and zero campuses in 1997. He ended tenure for school principals, so slackers could be sacked. He also stopped social promotion; students needed to complete grade-level work to matriculate.

Ex-pornography mecca Times Square now welcomes families, tourists and locals for fully clothed musicals like “The Lion King” and “Mary Poppins
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTI3Mzk2NzJkY2E2MDliNGI5MzEyMmYzMTZiMWMyZjM=

red states rule

08-09-2007, 04:30 AM

JohnDoe

08-09-2007, 05:01 AM

:lol:

That was one stupid article....
And anybody ever seen Susan Estrich???:eek:

Funny how they can't find much dirt on F. Thompson, so what do the liberals do.......They attack his wife....Truly Pathetic

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/thcheer.gifRun Fred Run....http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/thcheer.gif

Yes, I have seen Susan Estrich....she is a regular FOX NEWS contributor that they put on as their so called Liberal that is suppose to be part of their Fair and Balanced cliche....

Who is she when it comes to someone representing Democrats, most wouldn't even know who she is...but I would bet every Fox News loving person believes she's someone that represents the Democratic Party....???

Gotta love the FAIR AND BALANCE FOX news, no? ;)

No one is cutting down his wife Stephanie....not even this 'no one' writing the article is cutting her down, but they are cutting down his choices in life.

Oh, and I just HATE this Susan Estrich's voice...it drives me nuts!!!!

red states rule

08-09-2007, 05:04 AM

Yes, I have seen Susan Estrich....she is a regular FOX NEWS contributor that they put on as their so called Liberal that is suppose to be part of their Fair and Balanced cliche....

Who is she when it comes to someone representing Democrats, most wouldn't even know who she is...but I would bet every Fox News loving person believes she's someone that represents the Democratic Party....???

Gotta love the FAIR AND BALANCE FOX news, no? ;)

No one is cutting down his wife Stephanie....not even this 'no one' writing the article is cutting her down, but they are cutting down his choices in life.

Oh, and I just HATE this Susan Estrich's voice...it drives me nuts!!!!

She is a big lib. She ran Pres Peanuts campaign on 1980, was a big defender of Bill Clinton, and has stood by the Dems most of the time

Of course, if you are a liberal and appear on Fox News, you are no longer the "right" kind of liberal to your once liberal friends

JohnDoe

08-09-2007, 05:14 AM

She is a big lib. She ran Pres Peanuts campaign on 1980, was a big defender of Bill Clinton, and has stood by the Dems most of the time

Of course, if you are a liberal and appear on Fox News, you are no longer the "right" kind of liberal to your once liberal friends

come on RSR, don't you think that Fox News could have SOMEONE on their show that would represent TheDemocratic Party of today verses some woman that was part of the Carter politics from over 25 years ago, that has a voice that could make the average Joe wish they were deaf? This was and is, intentional on their part...

And Good Morning! It is a beautiful day here this morning! The sun rose about 15 minutes ago, the birds are chirping and singing their morning songs, and the snowshoe hare rabbit just got done manicuring my lawn by eating the Clover that is trying to take over!

red states rule

08-09-2007, 05:17 AM

come on RSR, don't you think that Fox News could have SOMEONE on their show that would represent TheDemocratic Party of today verses some woman that was part of the Carter politics from over 25 years ago, that has a voice that could make the average Joe wish they were deaf? This was and is, intentional on their part...

And Good Morning! It is a beautiful day here this morning! The sun rose about 15 minutes ago, the birds are chirping and singing their morning songs, and the snowshoe hare rabbit just got done manicuring my lawn by eating the Clover that is trying to take over!

They also have Juan Williams, Nina Easton, Mary Ann Marsh, Kristen Powers, Laura Swartz, Wesley Clarke, Bob Shrum, Bob Beckel, and many other liberals of today

In that list are former campaign managers and Clinton staffers

You will see MORE liberals of Fox News then the number of Republicans on CNN and MSNBC COMBINED

and good morning to you

red states rule

08-09-2007, 06:22 AM

New rumor: He is announcing on September 5th.

Why is he waiting so long? He is losing time and money.

Fred to make first Iowa visit next week

Fred Thompson will make his first visit to Iowa as a likely presidential candidate next Friday, Aug. 17, according to an informed Iowa source.

Thompson will spend the day in Des Moines, mixing private meetings with GOP activists and legislators and a public appearance at the Iowa State Fair. The former Tennessee senator will make the usual rounds at the fair — a must-attend political rite for presidential hopefuls — including a visit to the Des Moines Register's "Soapbox," the speaking platform provided on the Grand Concourse to White House candidates.

Thompson's visit to Iowa comes after June stops in New Hampshire and South Carolina, the two other traditional early primary states. Though he's bypassing the Ames Straw Poll Saturday, this trip signals that he likely intends to compete in the caucuses. Thompson is expected to formally announce his candidacy shortly after Labor Day.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0807/Fred_to_make_first_Iowa_visit_next_week.html

Pale Rider

08-09-2007, 03:17 PM

Pale Rider

08-09-2007, 03:22 PM

But personally, I'm still rooting for Ron Paul. :)

I'm not "rooting" for him. But if it came down to him or a liberal, I'd have no problem voting for him.

He knows his history, and doesn't come off to me as dumb at all. He quotes the constitution and seems very knowledable.

But, I'm sticking with Tancredo, until he either drops out, or makes it.

Pale Rider

08-09-2007, 03:29 PM

Does this sound like a liberals record?

Through robust policing, Giuliani drove overall crime down 56.1 percent, while chopping homicides 66.6 percent, from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001.

Following national trends, abortions on Giuliani’s watch dropped 16.9 percent, while taxpayer-funded Medicaid abortions plunged 23 percent.

Gotham’s foster-care population fell 38 percent as Giuliani helped loving families adopt 17,804 boys and girls.

By fighting fraud and finding work for legitimate beneficiaries, Giuliani cut welfare rolls 58 percent, starting two years before federal welfare reform. Giuliani renamed welfare offices “Job Centers.”

Giuliani privatized 23,625 previously confiscated, city-owned dwellings, 78 percent of supply, benefiting family and individual homeowners and tenants.

Giuliani dumped Gotham’s 20 percent set-aside and 10 percent overbid bonus for minority and female contractors. “The whole idea of quotas to me perpetuates discrimination,” he explained. He initiated this on his 24th day in office, far exceeding any colorblindness legislation Congress even debated during the 12-year “Republican Revolution.”

Giuliani’s $10 million Charter School Improvement Fund helped 3,286 pupils in 17 new charter schools, up from $0 and zero campuses in 1997. He ended tenure for school principals, so slackers could be sacked. He also stopped social promotion; students needed to complete grade-level work to matriculate.

Ex-pornography mecca Times Square now welcomes families, tourists and locals for fully clothed musicals like “The Lion King” and “Mary Poppins
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTI3Mzk2NzJkY2E2MDliNGI5MzEyMmYzMTZiMWMyZjM=

Here's your conservative...

Rudy, the mayor of Sanctuary City

“I believe the anti-immigration movement in America is one of our most serious public problems.” — Rudy Giuliani, Oct. 10, 1996.

“‘’We need to know everyone who’s in the United States who comes here from a foreign country. That has to be the goal of our immigration law. If you make that the objective of your law, you will clear up a lot of the confusion that presently exists both in our present immigration law and in what Congress is trying to do right now, which kind of goes in 10 different directions without any central focus.'’ — Rudy Giuliani in a press release today.

The handout when on to say: Giuliani has said he is willing to compromise on legalizing illegal immigrants, but only if the bill requires tamperproof ID cards and a database of foreigners.

Now I will grant you that over 11 years I have changed a position or two. I even changed political parties.

But Rudy has a lot of nerve complaining.

On his watch as mayor, New York City remained a Sanctuary City that forbid its police from ratting out “undocumented workers” — illegal aliens — to the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

And Giuliani now is calling for ID cards and the like? How would this be enforced? Under mayoral Executive Order 124, cops in NYC would not be allowed to ask for such an ID.

Giuliani lecturing McCain on immigration is like Bill Clinton lecturing Paul Wolfowitz about the evils of sex in the workplace.

If Rudy is wondering why so many Republicans are waiting for Fred Thompson, Rudy need only look in the mirror. Giuliani’s opportunism is as ugly as it is obvious.

The mayor of Sanctuary City has no room to complain about Congress or the administration botching up immigration.
http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2007/05/23/rudy-the-mayor-of-sanctuary-city/

emmett

08-09-2007, 11:34 PM

Fred will make a good VP choice for Rudy

Rudy/Fred would easily beat Hilary/Obama

RSR - I keep telling you man. Rudi is a Liberal. A wolf in sheeps clothing. He will not win the nomination. You need to wise up and get on the Thompson train.

CORRECTION: Rudi would be a good chopice as VP with Fred as he would woo away alot of Liberal votes and cause problems for the Hildabeast in New York during general election.

:pee:Democratic philosophy!

red states rule

08-10-2007, 04:25 AM

Here's your conservative...

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2007/05/23/rudy-the-mayor-of-sanctuary-city/

Events cause politicians to change their views

from the NY Times.....

snip

But now he is running for president, and the politics of immigration in the post-9/11 world is vastly different, with the issue splitting the Republican Party and voters peppering Mr. Giuliani on the campaign trail with questions about his current thinking. Perhaps more than any other candidate, Mr. Giuliani has a record on immigration with the potential to complicate his bid for the nomination.

When Mr. Giuliani was asked to clarify his views on immigration at the town meeting, he emphasized enforcing the law but stayed away from any kind of blanket condemnation of illegal immigrants.

Mr. Giuliani’s approach is similar to the one proposed by President Bush, advocating an orderly flow of immigrants by providing a clear path to citizenship and thereby easing the pressure at the border.

Like Mr. Bush, Mr. Giuliani emphasizes the need for tough border controls. He said he wanted to help those who are already in America become citizens, but he is quick to highlight that he is not in favor of amnesty, which leading Republican candidates dare not endorse.

“First thing is, there should be no amnesty,” Mr. Giuliani said in response to a reporter’s question in Atlanta recently. Amnesty means varying things to various candidates. For Mr. Giuliani, it means no blanket forgiveness of illegal status.

Immigration has been a difficult issue for all the major Republican candidates, and they have responded to it in notably different ways.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/us/politics/22giuliani.html?ex=1186891200&en=ca132b777ba072fe&ei=5070

red states rule

08-10-2007, 04:28 AM

RSR - I keep telling you man. Rudi is a Liberal. A wolf in sheeps clothing. He will not win the nomination. You need to wise up and get on the Thompson train.

CORRECTION: Rudi would be a good chopice as VP with Fred as he would woo away alot of Liberal votes and cause problems for the Hildabeast in New York during general election.

:pee:Democratic philosophy!

I have no problem with Fred

While I do not agree with Rudy on all the issues, the issues that matter the most to me I do agree with him on

They are: the war on terror, taxes, Judges, and border enforcement. From what I have heard and read, we are both on the same page

Unless you (or others) know something I don't

Black Lance

08-10-2007, 06:28 PM

gun control, abortion, and gay marriage

I don't think Hillary Clinton supports gay marriage, Gulliani's position on abortion isn't much different from Hillaries. Guliani is somewhat less in favor of gun control than Hillary, but he is still a supporter of gun control, just like the Democrats.

On SC Judges, he has said many times the Judges we would nominate are of the mold of Thomas and Scilia

He has said that, but should we believe it? This would be counter-productive to his position on abortion, gun control, so on.

red states rule

08-10-2007, 08:55 PM

I don't think Hillary Clinton supports gay marriage, Gulliani's position on abortion isn't much different from Hillaries. Guliani is somewhat less in favor of gun control than Hillary, but he is still a supporter of gun control, just like the Democrats.

He has said that, but should we believe it? This would be counter-productive to his position on abortion, gun control, so on.

The BIG differecne is, Hillary would have no problem imposing her personal views on all of us via passing laws

Rudy would not even consider it