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jimnyc
06-26-2017, 01:08 PM
SO many get angry if you call a gay person queer, even though they refer to themselves as such, and even had a TV show with the name. Many get mad at the term "dyke", but then they have a parade using the name.

And even funnier when those always preaching tolerance can't get along with the other dykes! :laugh2: Another lame instance where a FLAG is making someone feel unsafe. :rolleyes:

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Chicago 'Dyke March' Bans Jewish Pride Flags: 'They Made People Feel Unsafe'

https://i.imgur.com/leeR1JA.png

Three people carrying Jewish Pride flags were asked to leave the annual Chicago Dyke March on Saturday.

The Chicago-based LGBTQ newspaper Windy City Times quoted a Dyke March collective member as saying the rainbow flag with the Star of David in the middle "made people feel unsafe," and that the march was "pro-Palestinian" and "anti-Zionist."

The Chicago Dyke March is billed as an "anti-racist, anti-violent, volunteer-led, grassroots mobilization and celebration of dyke, queer, bisexual, and transgender resilience," according to its Twitter account.

Laurel Grauer, a member of the Jewish LGBTQ organization A Wider Bridge, told the Windy City Times "it was a flag from my congregation which celebrates my queer, Jewish identity which I have done for over a decade marching in the Dyke March with the same flag."

"They were telling me to leave because my flag was a trigger to people that they found offensive," she added.

Another participant asked to leave because of a Jewish flag was Eleanor Shoshany-Anderson. "The Dyke March is supposed to be intersectional. I don't know why my identity is excluded from that. I felt that, as a Jew, I am not welcome here," she told the Windy City Times.

Rest here - http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.797650

pete311
06-26-2017, 01:59 PM
oh look, gay people aren't perfect, huh, who knew.

jimnyc
06-26-2017, 02:42 PM
oh look, gay people aren't perfect, huh, who knew.

That's it, huh? So next time a group should stop blacks from doing something, or from women doing something, or from similar - just saying they ain't perfect is all you got? Pathetic. But if it were folks somehow banning the queers from something, then you would be crying tolerance and equality.

This is how I know that the entire thing, all the whining from the left about tolerance - is bullshit. Sure, tolerance for them and fuck everyone else.

pete311
06-26-2017, 02:51 PM
That's it, huh? So next time a group should stop blacks from doing something, or from women doing something, or from similar - just saying they ain't perfect is all you got? Pathetic. But if it were folks somehow banning the queers from something, then you would be crying tolerance and equality.

This is how I know that the entire thing, all the whining from the left about tolerance - is bullshit. Sure, tolerance for them and fuck everyone else.

Obviously they are focused on tolerance in a specific aspect. Just because they are gay and face wrongful discrimination doesn't mean they are all saints and holy tolerant themselves. They were wrong. Right to be called out. Next!

jimnyc
06-26-2017, 03:03 PM
Obviously they are focused on tolerance in a specific aspect. Just because they are gay and face wrongful discrimination doesn't mean they are all saints and holy tolerant themselves. They were wrong. Right to be called out. Next!

I'm glad you agree they are wrong. But every now and again, or at least once, I would like to see some liberals call out this shit and condemn it, equally as they would if someone on the right did something they disagree with.

GravyBoat
06-26-2017, 03:12 PM
Every noon in Aviv there's a gay pride parade, so Jews have plenty of representation in the gay
community, it's a global community.

Dykes gave John Fahey a hard time back in the 60's, so he wrote this instrumental song about it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRiSxm0xB1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRiSxm0xB1s

pete311
06-26-2017, 04:18 PM
I'm glad you agree they are wrong. But every now and again, or at least once, I would like to see some liberals call out this shit and condemn it, equally as they would if someone on the right did something they disagree with.

What makes you think there aren't?

jimnyc
06-26-2017, 04:30 PM
What makes you think there aren't?

Well, I suppose some are, but I don't see it. When a conservative gets condemned for something, it's swift, it's LOUD and it lasts for quite some time. I'm man enough to be truthful, and I just see a difference.

aboutime
06-26-2017, 05:46 PM
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Abbey Marie
06-26-2017, 11:29 PM
It's like a fight over who is the bigger victim. Lol.

Drummond
06-27-2017, 07:16 AM
Obviously they are focused on tolerance in a specific aspect. Just because they are gay and face wrongful discrimination doesn't mean they are all saints and holy tolerant themselves. They were wrong. Right to be called out. Next!

Let's be tolerant, eh ? But, let's also be VERY selective about it ! One cannot tolerate certain intolerances (.. but let's also not advertise the fact, until or unless the intolerance becomes tolerable enough to display) ?:laugh::laugh:

Face the fact, Pete, that their agenda wasn't QUITE as advertised (something true of Left wing groupings generally) !

pete311
06-27-2017, 07:58 AM
Let's be tolerant, eh ? But, let's also be VERY selective about it ! One cannot tolerate certain intolerances (.. but let's also not advertise the fact, until or unless the intolerance becomes tolerable enough to display) ?:laugh::laugh:

Face the fact, Pete, that their agenda wasn't QUITE as advertised (something true of Left wing groupings generally) !

You guys love to use one small example and then extrapolate it to everyone. Read the article it was a few organizers from the Chicago march. In about 2 second I can find some alt right wacko. Should I extrapolate that on to you?

I've already said the few organizers were wrong. There are even bad people that are gay. oh my gosh, who would have thought!? aka your ex-brietbart editor.

Abbey Marie
06-27-2017, 09:15 AM
You guys love to use one small example and then extrapolate it to everyone. Read the article it was a few organizers from the Chicago march. In about 2 second I can find some alt right wacko. Should I extrapolate that on to you?

I've already said the few organizers were wrong. There are even bad people that are gay. oh my gosh, who would have thought!? aka your ex-brietbart editor.

If this happened in a vacuum, sure. But as you know, there really are lots of people vying for the "Biggest Victim" trophy. On college campuses, etc. I guess it was inevitable that disagreements between them would ensue. There is a cumulative effect on normal observers' minds.

Kathianne
06-27-2017, 11:03 AM
There's some 'outing' of the antisemitism of the left, but few on the left are heeding the calls to cut it out:

http://forward.com/opinion/national/373577/leftists-must-root-out-anti-semitism-in-its-ranks/

NightTrain
06-27-2017, 11:14 AM
There's some 'outing' of the antisemitism of the left, but few on the left are heeding the calls to cut it out:

http://forward.com/opinion/national/373577/leftists-must-root-out-anti-semitism-in-its-ranks/

At first it seems weird that liberals would be so full of hatred toward the Jews until you consider that the source of the hatred stems from a Liberal's natural inclination to root for terrorists, who Israel fights every day over there.

Kathianne
06-27-2017, 11:25 AM
At first it seems weird that liberals would be so full of hatred toward the Jews until you consider that the source of the hatred stems from a Liberal's natural inclination to root for terrorists, who Israel fights every day over there.

That may be a part, but I think much has to do with Jews following rules and being rooted in principles for the most part. Much like other 'mainstream' religions, those principles might mean being to the 'left' on certain issues, but where they are not leading is towards self-destruction.

jimnyc
06-27-2017, 12:11 PM
aka your ex-brietbart editor.

And he was held accountable, not victimized like the rest of the whining fags.

pete311
06-27-2017, 12:20 PM
And he was held accountable, not victimized like the rest of the whining fags.

You guys are actually the whining snowflakes that can't handle someone different than you holding a parade. So delicate you are.

revelarts
06-27-2017, 12:30 PM
What are they marching for exactly? Can't they already legally marry and put Christians out of biz that don't want to help?
I've been away from TV etc... what's this about supposedly?

pete311
06-27-2017, 12:34 PM
What are they marching for exactly? Can't they already legally marry and put Christians out of biz that don't want to help?
I've been away from TV etc... what's this about supposedly?

From their website

WE MOVE


TO CREATE VISIBILITY


TO HONOR OUR HISTORIES AND IDENTITIES


TO DISRUPT OPPRESSION AND DOMINANCE


TO CHALLENGE SILENCE AND FEAR


BECAUSE WE ARE EVERYWHERE


BECAUSE WE MUST SURVIVE

jimnyc
06-27-2017, 12:37 PM
You guys are actually the whining snowflakes that can't handle someone different than you holding a parade. So delicate you are.

I couldn't care less about the parade, or I would have been there participating or protesting. I saw this on a news site and started cracking up, thought of all the demands they want over time, and how they then truly act. It's comical stuff.

jimnyc
06-27-2017, 12:38 PM
What are they marching for exactly? Can't they already legally marry and put Christians out of biz that don't want to help?
I've been away from TV etc... what's this about supposedly?

It's about continued demands, continued demands to be accepted as normal. Then of course demands of who gets to do what at the parade, and who must leave because someone got "triggered".

jimnyc
06-27-2017, 12:39 PM
TO HONOR OUR HISTORIES AND IDENTITIES


This is the part I have an issue with. If this were entirely true, and they truly believed this, then they wouldn't be tossing people over their jewish background.

pete311
06-27-2017, 12:44 PM
It's about continued demands, continued demands to be accepted as normal. Then of course demands of who gets to do what at the parade, and who must leave because someone got "triggered".

There is no normal. Your normal is defined by the culture bias you grew up in. Your normal does not exist in India, China, Indonesia, Kenya. Life is a gradient and that's what makes it so interesting.

NightTrain
06-27-2017, 12:45 PM
You guys are actually the whining snowflakes that can't handle someone different than you holding a parade. So delicate you are.

Don't think so, Petey.

You don't see us protesting with pussy-hats, or rioting, or calling for assassinations, or cheering when a Congressman is shot, or stifling free speech, or engaging in fascist thought-police bullying episodes, or trying to force bakers to provide services to those they don't wish to associate with.

And let's not even get into the impeachment thing after your multitudes of zany plots so hilariously and spectacularly failed.
I'm still laughing about the attempt to corrupt GOP electors with a resulting net loss for Hellary. And the Emoluments Clause. And Trump University. And the Russian Hooker thing. And the Russian Collusion thing. :laugh2:
Silly, silly moonbats. :popcorn:

You shitheads lost. Get over it, move along and root for America for a change.

pete311
06-27-2017, 12:45 PM
This is the part I have an issue with. If this were entirely true, and they truly believed this, then they wouldn't be tossing people over their jewish background.

Yes and a few organizers were out of place and wrong. Big deal. Again, there are some bad gay apples. Don't paint with the broad brush.

pete311
06-27-2017, 12:47 PM
Don't think so, Petey.

You don't see us protesting with pussy-hats, or rioting, or calling for assassinations, or cheering when a Congressman is shot, or stifling free speech, or engaging in fascist thought-police bullying episodes, or trying to force bakers to provide services to those they don't wish to associate with.

And let's not even get into the impeachment thing after your multitudes of zany plots so hilariously and spectacularly failed.
I'm still laughing about the attempt to corrupt GOP electors with a resulting net loss for Hellary. And the Emoluments Clause. And Trump University. And the Russian Hooker thing. And the Russian Collusion thing. :laugh2:
Silly, silly moonbats. :popcorn:

You shitheads lost. Get over it, move along and root for America for a change.

I assume you're a middle-ish class white male. Exactly what do you know about oppression? You've owned American since the beginning.

NightTrain
06-27-2017, 12:50 PM
I assume you're a middle-ish class white male. Exactly what do you know about oppression? You've owned American since the beginning.

If anyone is trying to oppress a group, it would be your lovable liberals engaging in all I pointed out above.

Who have I tried to oppress, Petey? Oppression is a favorite buzzword you moonbats love to throw around, but I'm not sure you actually understand the definition.

jimnyc
06-27-2017, 12:50 PM
I assume you're a middle-ish class white male. Exactly what do you know about oppression? You've owned American since the beginning.

You tell me not to paint with a broad brush, and then the next post you want to blame the entire white man and how they've owned America.

I think all that is owned here is you owning yourself and making yourself look like a schmuck.

pete311
06-27-2017, 12:53 PM
You tell me not to paint with a broad brush, and then the next post you want to blame the entire white man and how they've owned America.

I think all that is owned here is you owning yourself and making yourself look like a schmuck.

Oh really, do I need to give you a history lesson on American oppression of minorities like native americans, blacks, women and homosexuals? Really? You are going to debate that?

jimnyc
06-27-2017, 01:03 PM
Oh really, do I need to give you a history lesson on American oppression of minorities like native americans, blacks, women and homosexuals? Really? You are going to debate that?

And WHAT THE FUCK does that have to do with NT? Did he oppress folks? How does he "own" America? There's NOTHING to debate. A white American man isn't guilty of jack shit for being a white man.

Kathianne
06-27-2017, 01:34 PM
Antisemitism has been rising in Europe for more than a decade. Of course it then showed up on US university campuses. The difference here is that people are willing to fight for their rights:

https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/06/26/calif-university-hit-with-lawsuit-alleging-hostile-anti-jewish-environment/


California University Hit With Lawsuit Alleging 'Hostile Anti-Jewish Environment'
BY TONI AIRAKSINEN (https://pjmedia.com/columnist/toni-airaksinen/) JUNE 26, 2017

...

NightTrain
06-27-2017, 01:42 PM
I'm still waiting to be enlightened as to who I have oppressed.

jimnyc
06-27-2017, 01:50 PM
I'm still waiting to be enlightened as to who I have oppressed.

The entire white man has been a target for too damn long, for being nothing more than white. We've "oppressed" people. We've owned slaves. We own America. We have white privilege. We have this and we have that. BULLSHIT.

I haven't done ANYTHING to ANYONE out there, and I'll be damned if I'll be made into some sort of villain, as if I've done something wrong somehow, and therefore must take some form of responsibility or something? Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen.

pete311
06-27-2017, 02:29 PM
And WHAT THE FUCK does that have to do with NT? Did he oppress folks? How does he "own" America? There's NOTHING to debate. A white American man isn't guilty of jack shit for being a white man.

I think you need to go back and read the posts again.

pete311
06-27-2017, 02:29 PM
I'm still waiting to be enlightened as to who I have oppressed.

Go back and read the posts. Where did I state YOU are guilty of oppression?

NightTrain
06-27-2017, 02:40 PM
Go back and read the posts. Where did I state YOU are guilty of oppression?


I assume you're a middle-ish class white male. Exactly what do you know about oppression? You've owned American since the beginning.


Oh really, do I need to give you a history lesson on American oppression of minorities like native americans, blacks, women and homosexuals? Really? You are going to debate that?

Seems pretty clear to me.

Now, how have I, as a lily-white middle-class conservative working man, oppressed anyone?

pete311
06-27-2017, 03:19 PM
Seems pretty clear to me.

Now, how have I, as a lily-white middle-class conservative working man, oppressed anyone?

Are you confused by my use of the "collective" "you've"?

NightTrain
06-27-2017, 03:53 PM
Are you confused by my use of the "collective" "you've"?

Oh, I think you pretty clearly called out all white non-moonbat Americans as oppressive. That group would include me.

That's the general gist of what you were clumsily stabbing at, isn't it?

Tell me, Petey : What group of Americans are being oppressed by white conservative Americans? And how? Examples?

Black Diamond
06-27-2017, 03:55 PM
Oh, I think you pretty clearly called out all white non-moonbat Americans as oppressive. That group would include me.

That's the general gist of what you were clumsily stabbing at, isn't it?

Tell me, Petey : What group of Americans are being oppressed by white conservative Americans? And how? Examples?
CNN reporters.

pete311
06-27-2017, 04:19 PM
Oh, I think you pretty clearly called out all white non-moonbat Americans as oppressive. That group would include me.

That's the general gist of what you were clumsily stabbing at, isn't it?

Tell me, Petey : What group of Americans are being oppressed by white conservative Americans? And how? Examples?

Nope, get over yourself.

revelarts
06-27-2017, 04:20 PM
There is no normal. Your normal is defined by the culture bias you grew up in. Your normal does not exist in India, China, Indonesia, Kenya. Life is a gradient and that's what makes it so interesting.

so why are homosexuals always so upset at those that don't agree with them?!
Since "THERE IS NO NORMAL" no need to march since others views are part of the gradient that makes life so interesting right?

with that POV RASISM and SHARIA LAW are just part of the gradient that makes life so interesting.
.
Heck having it the old way where there was NO legal homosexual marraige was just as GOOD.... part of the gradient that makes life so interesting.


Homosexuality and sexual revolution advocates have been talking out of both sides of their mouths for since the 1960s.
"...sex is a NORMAL part of life for teens and unmarried..." "...there is no normal sex..."
"...Marraige is just a piece of paper..." "...marraige is a right..."
"...homosexuality is a normal inborn orinitation just like everyone else..." "...pedohilia might be a inborn orinitation but it's NOTHING LIKE homosexuality..."

whatever works at the time to keep the agneda moving.
In the final anylsis there is no right or wrong EXCEPT for anyone that disagrees with the sexual perverts.
they must be legislatited into silence and legal conformatity to the CURRENT view of NEWS-THINK that they've created.

It's socail neo facism while dening that anything right is worng. it's AMAZING just how the double plus good "WAR is PEACE" left self deciet works here.

claiming NO RULES APPLY but ENFORCEING STRICT moving PC standards for all who dare speak a word against or do not assist in their perversion.

pete311
06-27-2017, 04:23 PM
so why are homosexuals always so upset at those that don't agree with them?!
Since "THERE IS NO NORMAL" no need to march since others views are part of the gradient that makes life so interesting right?

with that POV RASISM and SHARIA LAW are just part of the gradient that makes life so interesting.
.
Heck having it the old way where there was NO legal homosexual marraige was just as GOOD.... part of the gradient that makes life so interesting.


Homosexuality and sexual revolution advocates have been talking out of both sides of their mouths for since the 1960s.
"...sex is a NORMAL part of life for teens and unmarried..." "...there is no normal sex..."
"...Marraige is just a piece of paper..." "...marraige is a right..."
"...homosexuality is a normal inborn orinitation just like everyone else..." "...pedohilia might be a inborn orinitation but it's NOTHING LIKE homosexuality..."

whatever works at the time to keep the agneda moving.
In the final anylsis there is no right or wrong EXCEPT for anyone that disagrees with the sexual perverts.
they must be legislatited into silence and legal conformatity to the CURRENT view of NEWS-THINK that they've created.

It's socail neo facism while dening that anything right is worng. it's AMAZING just how the double plus good "WAR is PEACE" left self deciet works here.

claiming NO RULES APPLY but ENFORCEING STRICT moving PC standards for all who dare speak a word against or do not assist in their perversion.

Morality still exists. It's a generational process and your's is dying out.

revelarts
06-27-2017, 04:51 PM
Morality still exists. It's a generational process and your's is dying out.

Morality by your definition is just "cultural". and NOTHING is NORMAL.
so WHOEVER can dominate the culture MAKES the morality.
Be that Muslims or Pedophiles or Predorist or Amish or Maoist or Anarchist or Cannibals.

part of the gradient that makes life so interesting Pete.

You can't have it both ways.
Morality is NOTHING but a gradient of opinion according to you.

the thing is you're Wrong. God's moral standards are universal even if you don't believe them or abandon them.
Ignoring the stop sign at the busy intersection may seem like "freedom" but real stop signs are not arbitrary or simply there because of "cultural opinion".
And just as we've seen the consequences of pre-martial sex with the rise in unwed motherhood, abortion and poverty for women and children that playing with the morality of marriage has caused.
In the same way those pretending that homosexuality is a moral positive will bring another wave of unintended consequences. Likely beginning with more disease. As even homosexual advocates begin to admit to the horrific health problems especially among homosexual men.

but hey poverty, teen motherhood, fatherless children, abortion, AIDS, hepatitis complex, HPV mouth and genital cancers....
are all part of the gradient that makes life so interesting.

pete311
06-27-2017, 05:19 PM
so WHOEVER can dominate the culture MAKES the morality.


It's a little bit of both. Interesting article here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willwilkinson/2011/03/28/morality-nature-or-culture/#6b41a7d19f2e

As I said before, your notion that homosexuality is morally wrong, is dying out.

NightTrain
06-27-2017, 05:29 PM
Are you confused by my use of the "collective" "you've"?

I like the dance, but your footwork could use more practice.

Who is oppressing who in America today?

revelarts
06-27-2017, 06:02 PM
It's a little bit of both. Interesting article here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willwilkinson/2011/03/28/morality-nature-or-culture/#6b41a7d19f2e

As I said before, your notion that homosexuality is morally wrong, is dying out.

Becoming less popular in some quarters there's no doubt. but It will never die Pete.
and it's not a "notion" it's the facts, the reality as spoken by God.
homosexual activity is SIN. period.

Interesting how you dodged my commentary on the consequences of ignoring God's moral standards.
But that's what people on the left often do.
No matter how many poverty stricken fatherless children or diseased homosexuals pile up.
the Christian view must be rejected and the PHALLIC gods appeased.

aboutime
06-27-2017, 06:43 PM
It's a little bit of both. Interesting article here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willwilkinson/2011/03/28/morality-nature-or-culture/#6b41a7d19f2e

As I said before, your notion that homosexuality is morally wrong, is dying out.


Sure thing petey. Of course, that's only because YOU SAY SO. Defending your own lifestyle to all of us is simply OBVIOUS.

KarlMarx
06-27-2017, 07:43 PM
I find it ironic that a group that claims to be the victims of discrimination and oppression are ready to oppress and discriminate now that they have a sense of power. They stamp on the right to free speech of others, they disrespect the free practice of one's faith and they're a bunch of anti-semites to boot...

What should I compare you to?

Nazis

With the gay left you either agree with them 100 percent all the time or else out come the Gestapo tactics, the jackboots and the brown shirts

Seig Heil cocksuckers! And I don't mean that pejoratively, it's just a statement of what you actually are.

And those of you gays who excuse that kind of behavior, you're just enablers, just like the Moslems who pay lip service to the likes of ISIS and other Moslem extremists.

Instead of a rainbow flag, you should be waving a swastika...


http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-5/NaziParade.GIF

aboutime
06-27-2017, 09:28 PM
Nope, get over yourself.

Another typical, liberal answer from petey. When unable to provide an Honest response, always draw attention to whoever asked the question. It's often called "Changing the subject to avoid being confronted by TRUTH".

pete311
06-27-2017, 10:12 PM
I like the dance, but your footwork could use more practice.

Who is oppressing who in America today?

Not sure how that question is relevant to my comments.

Abbey Marie
06-27-2017, 10:40 PM
so why are homosexuals always so upset at those that don't agree with them?!
Since "THERE IS NO NORMAL" no need to march since others views are part of the gradient that makes life so interesting right?

with that POV RASISM and SHARIA LAW are just part of the gradient that makes life so interesting.
.
Heck having it the old way where there was NO legal homosexual marraige was just as GOOD.... part of the gradient that makes life so interesting.


Homosexuality and sexual revolution advocates have been talking out of both sides of their mouths for since the 1960s.
"...sex is a NORMAL part of life for teens and unmarried..." "...there is no normal sex..."
"...Marraige is just a piece of paper..." "...marraige is a right..."
"...homosexuality is a normal inborn orinitation just like everyone else..." "...pedohilia might be a inborn orinitation but it's NOTHING LIKE homosexuality..."


whatever works at the time to keep the agneda moving.
...
.

That LAST. Sentence... BINGO!

Abbey Marie
06-27-2017, 10:52 PM
If this happened in a vacuum, sure. But as you know, there really are lots of people vying for the "Biggest Victim" trophy. On college campuses, etc. I guess it was inevitable that disagreements between them would ensue. There is a cumulative effect on normal observers' minds.


Just saw an article which I will try to link tomorrow, reporting that the Black Lives Matter protestors are mad at the LGB folks for having a large police presence at their protest.

:laugh: