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revelarts
07-06-2017, 08:32 AM
there's a war on reality going on folks


Parent fights to omit gender on B.C. child's birth certificate
Judicial review is part of a broader effort not to include gender on any government documents
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/parent-fights-to-omit-gender-on-b-c-child-s-birth-certificate-1.4186221


legalized Crazy Talk,
Science Deniers


“When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”
G.K. Chesterton

Abbey Marie
07-06-2017, 10:09 AM
So now he has to refer to his child as "they" or "the" just to avoid using a gender-specific pronoun. Idiots.

You are right, Rev; there IS a war going on. Ultimately, it's a war on sanity, and sanity is losing. The inmates truly are about to run the asylum.

pete311
07-06-2017, 11:02 AM
So now he has to refer to his child as "they" or "them" just to aboid using a gender-specific pronoun. Idiots.

You are right, Rev; there IS a war going on. Ultimately, it's a war on sanity, and sanity is losing. The inmates truly are about to run the asylum.

So every generation before said about the current. Eventually they die. Your resistance is futile.

revelarts
07-06-2017, 11:18 AM
Thankfully even some of the left see some of the problems,
rather just jumping on the CURRENT bandwagon without thinking...
Or in this case literally DENYING even scientific FACTS.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8BRdwgPChQ

revelarts
07-06-2017, 11:33 AM
So every generation before said about the current. Eventually they die. Your resistance is futile.
the thing is reality doesn't change for ANY set of beliefs. POPULAR or not.
for instance,
Sex outside of marriage has caused more problems than sex within a traditional married family unit.
the "sexual revolution" didn't change the consequences.
so we have 53 million+ abortions U.S.. Millions of women, single unwed mothers, with fatherless children in poverty.
As well as nearly a quarter of some western populations with STDs of some kind.

Those of generations past that warned of these and other consequences were right.

Those old Christians in Russia and China before the Communist revolutions warned of the tyranny and murder likely to come of casting off Christian foundations for an Atheistic utopia dream. Many of the NEW PROGRESSIVE generation that embraced the NEW system DIED learning the truth.
the NAZIs were NEW in the 1930s...
New and popular do not EQUAL being RIGHT... It doesn't even mean it's better.
In some cases NEW and popular are horrifically wrong.

I know of NO case where people claiming that their FEELINGS trump Clear Physical realities has made things better.
can you list any for me Pete?

Or are you just happy that something is NEW?

...What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time....

King Solomon,
Ecclesiastes 1:9-10

Abbey Marie
07-06-2017, 01:29 PM
So every generation before said about the current. Eventually they die. Your resistance is futile.

And your gleeful acceptance of every freakish thing that comes down the pike does not bode well for this country. Trump was elected in good part because people are tired of being told not only is every uber- sensitivity and perversion ok, they are to be celebrated.

pete311
07-06-2017, 02:32 PM
And your gleeful acceptance of every freakish thing that comes down the pike does not bode well for this country. Trump was elected in good part because people are tired of being told not only is every uber- sensitivity and perversion ok, they are to be celebrated.

Again, said by every past generation about the current. Trump was elected because of the electoral college. More people voted against him. That's a fact. I'm not debating the electoral college. Just stating the fact that more people disagree with him and his 37% disapproval rating.

revelarts
07-06-2017, 04:14 PM
Pete.
How do you reconcile the Scientific FACT that MEN have Penises, 10 times more testosterone, etc etc. with the idea that a person's FEELINGs can tell them otherwise? Plus they have the right to FORCE others to agree with them?

You've promoted Science here OFTEN as the FINAL arbiter of reality.
How can you ABANDON the DEMONSTRABLE biological facts it on this issue?
this is not trying to guess WHAT happened 50 to 500 million years ago by looking at a handful of old rocks.
Or pretending we know what happened 13 BILLION years ago by speculating on some math and 30-40 years of astronomy pictures.
This is not trying to guess what World Wide temps will be 30, 40, 60 years from now based on a few sketchy computer models and extrapolations on SELECT and questionable temperature readings.

these people are right in front of us. CLAIMING they are NOT men or NOT women when their Biologly CLEARLY PROVES that they are.
Tell me why THAT isn't science denial?

You can dodge the question if you like.
but you've got to live with the fact that if THEY can do it, Anyone else should have the SAME right to their own SCIENCE FACTS as well.
In fact ALL Science is rendered MEANINGless if sincere feelings and POPULAR social trends override the objective reality.

pete311
07-06-2017, 04:54 PM
Pete.
How do you reconcile the Scientific FACT that MEN have Penises, 10 times more testosterone, etc etc. with the idea that a person's FEELINGs can tell them otherwise? Plus they have the right to FORCE others to agree with them?


If you cut off a man's genitals, is he still a man?

Kathianne
07-06-2017, 05:24 PM
If you cut off a man's genitals, is he still a man?
Pretty sure he will still have the y chromosome, just being scientific on topic.

pete311
07-06-2017, 06:02 PM
Pretty sure he will still have the y chromosome, just being scientific on topic.

Biology is never simple, which is why we shouldn't have such rigid definitions
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16934-girl-with-y-chromosome-sheds-light-on-maleness/

Kathianne
07-06-2017, 06:04 PM
Biology is never simple, which is why we shouldn't have such rigid definitions
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16934-girl-with-y-chromosome-sheds-light-on-maleness/

:laugh2:

Gunny
07-06-2017, 06:14 PM
Pretty sure he will still have the y chromosome, just being scientific on topic.If we don't, I'm in some SERIOUS trouble.:rolleyes:

Abbey Marie
07-06-2017, 06:50 PM
Again, said by every past generation about the current. Trump was elected because of the electoral college. More people voted against him. That's a fact. I'm not debating the electoral college. Just stating the fact that more people disagree with him and his 37% disapproval rating.


Your moral and historical equivalence argument is not persuasive. In this country, we have never seen the pushing of a sexual agenda anywhere close to what is going on today. Perhaps you are so blinded by your liberal beliefs and anxiousness to support any wacko idea, that you cannot see the big picture.

i will almost guarantee that the majority of folks in this country do not agree with these crazy ideas.

aboutime
07-06-2017, 08:30 PM
Biology is never simple, which is why we shouldn't have such rigid definitions
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16934-girl-with-y-chromosome-sheds-light-on-maleness/


Poor petey. Sounding more like a FLAT EARTHER everyday. You can deny that you exist as much as you want. While I wish you would honestly just give up...pretending to be a human, with feelings, emotions, and a BRAIN.
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My apologies to all of the WIZARD OF OZ fans for using petey as an example.

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