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High_Plains_Drifter
08-15-2017, 08:09 AM
I usually start my mornings watching local and national news, check the news online, check twitter and facebook, but anymore... everything is reaching such fever pitch coming from the left, this absolute tidal wave of hysteria, lies, hypocrisy and double standards, and what I see as leftist anti Americanism, I'm right to the point where I don't even want to hear about it anymore. Sunday and Monday I didn't watch any news at all on TV. What I got online was enough, but I turned the morning news on this morning and quickly realized that I'd had the tv on mute for probably 45 minutes, so I turned the channel. So I'm at this point where I might not watch any news at all except some local evening news, and then just to catch the weather. What I see on TV I don't even consider news anymore. This 24/7 stuff where a talking head speaks for maybe a minute or two about an actual even, then says "let's bring on our panel," is where I either hit mute or turn the channel. I don't need an analyst, or pundit, or any other sort of person paid to simply give their opinion, to tell me what they think. I heard what the intro was and I can decide for myself what to think. I don't need it analysed and I don't need to hear their opinion. And these talking heads all must be cut from the same mold, because invariably they ALL start out their diatribe with "LOOK."

So... I'm just about on FULL when it comes to this toxic state of affairs in America. I think the left is unhinged, and I just don't want to hear about it anymore. If it ever boils over to the point where it reaches my front door way out here in Podunk, WI, then I'll deal with it the way I see fit. I'll protect my own hard earned little chunk of America that I've worked and sweated to build with every fiber of my being.

darin
08-15-2017, 08:16 AM
Right there with you. Already saving for my off-grid lifestyle...few farm animals. need a spring on the property. Basic solar. And plenty of booze, honey, ammo. It's getting ridiculous.

NightTrain
08-15-2017, 08:25 AM
It's easy to burn out. Sometimes you have to unplug for a while.

When I had Jim up at the cabin last month, I asked him a few times if he'd like to check the board on my laptop tethered to my cell.

"Nope!" was the answer every time. He was happy to quietly sit & watch the river go by sipping coffee, almost in a meditative state. He was digging the off-the-grid thing, bigtime.

High_Plains_Drifter
08-15-2017, 08:32 AM
Right there with you. Already saving for my off-grid lifestyle...few farm animals. need a spring on the property. Basic solar. And plenty of booze, honey, ammo. It's getting ridiculous.
Yup... I have about an acre an a quarter near the end of a dead end road, no one living on two sides of that, have my own well, which has a conventional plug so I can plug it into a generator, have my own septic system, have a real nice wood burning stove in the shop so I wouldn't freeze in the winter if power was ever interrupted, have stores of emergency food such as WISE, dried things like beans and rice, canned stuff, SPAM of course, etc, all stock piled, probably enough for six months maybe, and I have my weapons with ammo for all, and thousands of rounds for the AK-47. I also have two generators, one small 2.5KW that I can easily cart around, and a big 9.5KW with electric start that I can plug into my service entrance via a transfer switch and power up my entire property.

Ya know they used to laugh at us prepers... I don't think many are laughing anymore.

NightTrain
08-15-2017, 08:41 AM
Yup... I have about an acre an a quarter near the end of a dead end road, no one living on two sides of that, have my own well, which has a conventional plug so I can plug it into a generator, have my own septic system, have a real nice wood burning stove in the shop so I wouldn't freeze in the winter if power was ever interrupted, have stores of emergency food such as WISE, dried things like beans and rice, canned stuff, SPAM of course, etc, all stock piled, probably enough for six months maybe, and I have my weapons with ammo for all, and thousands of rounds for the AK-47. I also have two generators, one small 2.5KW that I can easily cart around, and big 9.5KW with electric start that I can plug into my service entrance via a transfer switch and power up my entire property.

Ya know they used to laugh at us prepers... I don't think many are laughing anymore.

Got a DC plant planned yet? If not, I'd be happy to explain how I have my cabin wired for 12 volt fed by 2 battery strings, each fed by their own solar panel - that way if a battery goes bad, it doesn't take down my whole DC plant.

Also, Propane Lighting is extremely efficient and as a bonus, gives out quite a bit of heat. Redundancy is the name of the game. Mine has AC lights, DC lights and propane lights, with multiple 12v outlets around the cabin for charging phones/tablets/computers. A small AC/DC fridge also sits in the kitchen.

9.5kw Genny is a beast! Mine is a little Honda 2.5, with my backup being a 5kw Briggs fired genny in case something happens to the Honda.

darin
08-15-2017, 08:42 AM
Couple things to consider -

One of those above-ground old school 200 gallon farm fuel tanks - the raised ones? you know what i mean?

Also

Your house isn't bullet proof. If it's wooden, consider finding a way to secure it - 5.56 goes through wood easily. And with sustained attack would penetrate most brick homes. Consider spreading your supplies in caches around the property and some with friends; include metal currency, sealed ammo, first aid, and...whatnot. maybe a spare pistol. Maybe look at a manual pump for your well. Can you secure your generators from theft? I dont need your answers but maybe things you can think about, if they help. Two is one, and one is none.

High_Plains_Drifter
08-15-2017, 10:19 AM
Got a DC plant planned yet? If not, I'd be happy to explain how I have my cabin wired for 12 volt fed by 2 battery strings, each fed by their own solar panel - that way if a battery goes bad, it doesn't take down my whole DC plant.

Also, Propane Lighting is extremely efficient and as a bonus, gives out quite a bit of heat. Redundancy is the name of the game. Mine has AC lights, DC lights and propane lights, with multiple 12v outlets around the cabin for charging phones/tablets/computers. A small AC/DC fridge also sits in the kitchen.

9.5kw Genny is a beast! Mine is a little Honda 2.5, with my backup being a 5kw Briggs fired genny in case something happens to the Honda.
I'm kind of an oil lamp collector, have about 15 of them, 3 of them being my prized Aladdins for light. I like the flash lights too, and have lots of different ones of those including a couple very powerful LED, and I keep lots of batteries on hand. I buy those in bulk, all sizes.

https://image.ibb.co/i02zGa/20170815_101157.jpg

I'm stocked on lamp oil. I have probably 8 gallons. I know it's not sustainable, but all the lamps are also full, and if I burn them one by one and actually run out of oil, then the power has really been out a long, long time, and America must have been blown to smithereens. We'll probably all be scavengers or dead by then.

michiganFats
08-15-2017, 10:23 AM
Is that circus poster original or a re-creation?

High_Plains_Drifter
08-15-2017, 10:27 AM
Couple things to consider -

One of those above-ground old school 200 gallon farm fuel tanks - the raised ones? you know what i mean?

Also

Your house isn't bullet proof. If it's wooden, consider finding a way to secure it - 5.56 goes through wood easily. And with sustained attack would penetrate most brick homes. Consider spreading your supplies in caches around the property and some with friends; include metal currency, sealed ammo, first aid, and...whatnot. maybe a spare pistol. Maybe look at a manual pump for your well. Can you secure your generators from theft? I dont need your answers but maybe things you can think about, if they help. Two is one, and one is none.
Sure enough a 5.56 will go right through a house, done it. The AK 7.62x39 FMJ will go through even more. Besides the many different rifles and shot guns I have, I have a couple pistols as well, a Taurus Raging Bull .44mag and a Ruger Vaquero Birds Head .45LC, my "Doc Holiday" pistol.

I have the generators locked up in the shop. The shop has double locked doors, two of which have inside clasps with padlocks. I don't leave anything out. Many, many people do around here. Small town, trusting folks. I just don't invite the morally challenged to steal any of my stuff by leaving it out.


Is that circus poster original or a re-creation?
Reprint, but still, a reprint from 1916.

jimnyc
08-15-2017, 12:54 PM
It's easy to burn out. Sometimes you have to unplug for a while.

When I had Jim up at the cabin last month, I asked him a few times if he'd like to check the board on my laptop tethered to my cell.

"Nope!" was the answer every time. He was happy to quietly sit & watch the river go by sipping coffee, almost in a meditative state. He was digging the off-the-grid thing, bigtime.

I had no interest at all, which was VERY unlike me. I was just too happy, content, relaxed, whatever you call it.

You're on the grid if you want to be there, but I think the best part of being there is the quiet, not having to deal with people, congestion, noise... I can't get relaxed even here at home like I was up there. :)

Gunny
08-15-2017, 01:07 PM
I had no interest at all, which was VERY unlike me. I was just too happy, content, relaxed, whatever you call it.

You're on the grid if you want to be there, but I think the best part of being there is the quiet, not having to deal with people, congestion, noise... I can't get relaxed even here at home like I was up there. :)Shirker :slap:

Abbey Marie
08-15-2017, 04:30 PM
I usually start my mornings watching local and national news, check the news online, check twitter and facebook, but anymore... everything is reaching such fever pitch coming from the left, this absolute tidal wave of hysteria, lies, hypocrisy and double standards, and what I see as leftist anti Americanism, I'm right to the point where I don't even want to hear about it anymore. Sunday and Monday I didn't watch any news at all on TV. What I got online was enough, but I turned the morning news on this morning and quickly realized that I'd had the tv on mute for probably 45 minutes, so I turned the channel. So I'm at this point where I might not watch any news at all except some local evening news, and then just to catch the weather. What I see on TV I don't even consider news anymore. This 24/7 stuff where a talking head speaks for maybe a minute or two about an actual even, then says "let's bring on our panel," is where I either hit mute or turn the channel. I don't need an analyst, or pundit, or any other sort of person paid to simply give their opinion, to tell me what they think. I heard what the intro was and I can decide for myself what to think. I don't need it analysed and I don't need to hear their opinion. And these talking heads all must be cut from the same mold, because invariably they ALL start out their diatribe with "LOOK."

So... I'm just about on FULL when it comes to this toxic state of affairs in America. I think the left is unhinged, and I just don't want to hear about it anymore. If it ever boils over to the point where it reaches my front door way out here in Podunk, WI, then I'll deal with it the way I see fit. I'll protect my own hard earned little chunk of America that I've worked and sweated to build with every fiber of my being.


I've felt this way for a while now. I stopped watching Fox, and no national news in fact. Even local news has some biased stories.

Saw a a promo for ABC news tonight that made me reel from the hypocrisy. Every night they promo negative stories about Trump, so I know they are ripping him apart. After months of this, tonight they promo "Can Trump unite the country?" How can anyone decent and rational listen to such biased tripe?

High_Plains_Drifter
08-15-2017, 07:14 PM
I've felt this way for a while now. I stopped watching Fox, and no national news in fact. Even local news has some biased stories.

Saw a a promo for ABC news tonight that made me reel from the hypocrisy. Every night they promo negative stories about Trump, so I know they are ripping him apart. After months of this, tonight they promo "Can Trump unite the country?" How can anyone decent and rational listen to such biased tripe?
Yup, that's where I'm at too, Abbey, just absolutely BURNT OUT on listening to the 24/7 frothing at the mouth, bitching, lying and hyperventilating while trashing our president. The left has turned into a completely irrational fascist group with one and only one intention, to unseat our president. I'm so sick of it I could puke.

michiganFats
08-15-2017, 07:19 PM
Yup, that's where I'm at too, Abbey, just absolutely BURNT OUT on listening to the 24/7 frothing at the mouth, bitching, lying and hyperventilating while trashing our president. The left has turned into a completely irrational fascist group with one and only one intention, to unseat our president. I'm so sick of it I could puke.

You can get upset if you want to but just remember the reason they're acting like this is because they keep losing at the polls and they have no other options. I'm not upset by them, I enjoy watching them meltdown.

High_Plains_Drifter
08-15-2017, 07:31 PM
You can get upset if you want to but just remember the reason they're acting like this is because they keep losing at the polls and they have no other options. I'm not upset by them, I enjoy watching them meltdown.
Not upset... DISGUSTED.

They've over done it... a thousand times over.

I used to think democrats were just people who saw things differently than republicans, but still actually loved America. I don't believe they love American now, and I find them absolutely repulsive. Since I have a choice, I chose not to listen to them.

michiganFats
08-15-2017, 07:48 PM
Not upset... DISGUSTED.

They've over done it... a thousand times over.

I used to think democrats were just people who saw things differently than republicans, but still actually loved America. I don't believe they love American now, and I find them absolutely repulsive. Since I have a choice, I chose not to listen to them.

I know what you're saying, there's a reason I'm not a Democrat anymore. I'm not a Republican either. Just think of it this way; they're having a tantrum, a very long epic tantrum.

aboutime
08-15-2017, 08:04 PM
There's a reason those Cable Fake News Outlets are losing. So I stopped watching any of them, shortly after September 11, 2001

<img src="https://johnguru.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/liberal-news-sources.jpg">

FAKE NEWS AT IT'S FINEST!

NightTrain
08-15-2017, 08:09 PM
I'm kind of an oil lamp collector, have about 15 of them, 3 of them being my prized Aladdins for light. I like the flash lights too, and have lots of different ones of those including a couple very powerful LED, and I keep lots of batteries on hand. I buy those in bulk, all sizes.

https://image.ibb.co/i02zGa/20170815_101157.jpg

I'm stocked on lamp oil. I have probably 8 gallons. I know it's not sustainable, but all the lamps are also full, and if I burn them one by one and actually run out of oil, then the power has really been out a long, long time, and America must have been blown to smithereens. We'll probably all be scavengers or dead by then.


Interesting oil lamps. I've never seen that kind before, with that mantle there. Does it make it burn hotter & more efficient?

We still have a couple of old-school ones up at the cabin, but they're the wick kind that you dial up and down to get the right flame.

And, yeah.. those are extremely efficient. That fuel will go bad before you burn 8 gallons of it unless you put a bunch of stabilizers in it.

SassyLady
08-15-2017, 08:12 PM
Right there with you. Already saving for my off-grid lifestyle...few farm animals. need a spring on the property. Basic solar. And plenty of booze, honey, ammo. It's getting ridiculous.

Don't forget soap and spices. Good bartering items.

I need to get a solar generator and then I will feel better. Don't have as good a setup as I had in California ... my own water well and septic, 2 acres to farm and a basement to store things. Haven't quite figured out what to do with this place where I am now.

We are, however, prepared to live a few months of the grid.

Darin ... do you still have property?


Got a DC plant planned yet? If not, I'd be happy to explain how I have my cabin wired for 12 volt fed by 2 battery strings, each fed by their own solar panel - that way if a battery goes bad, it doesn't take down my whole DC plant.

Also, Propane Lighting is extremely efficient and as a bonus, gives out quite a bit of heat. Redundancy is the name of the game. Mine has AC lights, DC lights and propane lights, with multiple 12v outlets around the cabin for charging phones/tablets/computers. A small AC/DC fridge also sits in the kitchen.

9.5kw Genny is a beast! Mine is a little Honda 2.5, with my backup being a 5kw Briggs fired genny in case something happens to the Honda.

We have solar yard lights that we can bring in for good light. Where will you get propane when SHTF?

NightTrain
08-15-2017, 09:06 PM
We have solar yard lights that we can bring in for good light. Where will you get propane when SHTF?

Probably the same place that we get gas! :laugh:

Propane isn't a deal breaker, but it's a great redundancy system. We can convert the cabin to wood heat & cooking in short order if things go weird... but until then, I don't have any ambition whatsoever in chopping wood! Did that the whole time I was growing up and it's just not any fun.


We've got those little solar yard lights, too... they're pretty handy. And cheap!

darin
08-16-2017, 12:31 AM
Sure enough a 5.56 will go right through a house, done it. The AK 7.62x39 FMJ will go through even more. Besides the many different rifles and shot guns I have, I have a couple pistols as well, a Taurus Raging Bull .44mag and a Ruger Vaquero Birds Head .45LC, my "Doc Holiday" pistol.

I have the generators locked up in the shop. The shop has double locked doors, two of which have inside clasps with padlocks. I don't leave anything out. Many, many people do around here. Small town, trusting folks. I just don't invite the morally challenged to steal any of my stuff by leaving it out.

Right - consider finding a way to protect your house - maybe make at least a safe room; use large furniture against the walls, etc.


@sassy - No, i do not.

SassyLady
08-16-2017, 01:45 AM
@sassy - No, i do not.

Where will you settle down when you get back?

darin
08-16-2017, 02:14 AM
Where will you settle down when you get back?

Unsure - but it will probably look a little like this - and have outbuildings, barn, livestock holding areas and grazing areas. And chickens.

http://images.landandfarm.com/resizedimages/1620/2880/w/1-2719930952

Abbey Marie
08-16-2017, 07:16 AM
We should all get an off-grid place together. Though I really have nothing much to offer...

Kathianne
08-16-2017, 07:21 AM
Unsure - but it will probably look a little like this - and have outbuildings, barn, livestock holding areas and grazing areas. And chickens.

Farm boy loves his chickens!


We should all get an off-grid place together. Though I really have nothing much to offer... Me neither, though I can cook! ;)

Abbey Marie
08-16-2017, 07:25 AM
Farm boy loves his chickens!

Me neither, though I can cook! ;)

Cooking is very important!

I can can play a very good game of Scrabble, and I'll take everyone on in Jeopardy, lol. (Which will be pretty useless if we're off-the-grid).

Oh, and I won't be eating much of the meat either. :cool:

High_Plains_Drifter
08-16-2017, 08:02 AM
I know what you're saying, there's a reason I'm not a Democrat anymore. I'm not a Republican either. Just think of it this way; they're having a tantrum, a very long epic tantrum.
Yeah I registered as an independent about when the republicans ran McLame, and glad I did. I very disgusted with the republicans right now and would be ashamed to be associated with them.

I agree the left is throwing an epic tantrum, but it's more than that. The left has turned into a very radical bunch, and they're not happy with just having a voice. No, they want their agenda furthered and they're going to do it by whatever means necessary, even violence. They are fascists, they are America's ISIS, they so closely resemble the NAZI SS Troops of WWI Germany it's mind numbing.

CSM
08-16-2017, 09:05 AM
Yeah I registered as an independent about when the republicans ran McLame, and glad I did. I very disgusted with the republicans right now and would be ashamed to be associated with them.

I agree the left is throwing an epic tantrum, but it's more than that. The left has turned into a very radical bunch, and they're not happy with just having a voice. No, they want their agenda furthered and they're going to do it by whatever means necessary, even violence. They are fascists, they are America's ISIS, they so closely resemble the NAZI SS Troops of WWI Germany it's mind numbing.

At this stage, they are really more like Brown Shirts... not far from SS to be sure. Anyone wonder why Obama wanted a "civilian military"? You looking at it!

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-16-2017, 09:43 AM
I usually start my mornings watching local and national news, check the news online, check twitter and facebook, but anymore... everything is reaching such fever pitch coming from the left, this absolute tidal wave of hysteria, lies, hypocrisy and double standards, and what I see as leftist anti Americanism, I'm right to the point where I don't even want to hear about it anymore. Sunday and Monday I didn't watch any news at all on TV. What I got online was enough, but I turned the morning news on this morning and quickly realized that I'd had the tv on mute for probably 45 minutes, so I turned the channel. So I'm at this point where I might not watch any news at all except some local evening news, and then just to catch the weather. What I see on TV I don't even consider news anymore. This 24/7 stuff where a talking head speaks for maybe a minute or two about an actual even, then says "let's bring on our panel," is where I either hit mute or turn the channel. I don't need an analyst, or pundit, or any other sort of person paid to simply give their opinion, to tell me what they think. I heard what the intro was and I can decide for myself what to think. I don't need it analysed and I don't need to hear their opinion. And these talking heads all must be cut from the same mold, because invariably they ALL start out their diatribe with "LOOK."

So... I'm just about on FULL when it comes to this toxic state of affairs in America. I think the left is unhinged, and I just don't want to hear about it anymore. If it ever boils over to the point where it reaches my front door way out here in Podunk, WI, then I'll deal with it the way I see fit. I'll protect my own hard earned little chunk of America that I've worked and sweated to build with every fiber of my being.

Amen. Right in that same boat with ya..
You do know that makes us degenerate, and ignorant savage brutes , right? :rolleyes:
As now are all true red-bloodied American males -- that do not drink the liberal, pansy-ass Kool-Aid and that also do not seek appeasement first while demanding that some government force/entity destroy us and our freedoms ...
I go with this saying , learned many decades ago from my dearly departed, highly decorated Korean War veteran friend. One in which he sums up quite nicely such ignorant , arrogant measly and dumbass people.......
" Fukkém, feed ém fish-heads."------Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-16-2017, 09:54 AM
Cooking is very important!

I can can play a very good game of Scrabble, and I'll take everyone on in Jeopardy, lol. (Which will be pretty useless if we're off-the-grid).

Oh, and I won't be eating much of the meat either. :cool:

I can track, trap and/or shoot game, gut it, skin it and even cook it if no other cook is handy..
Also if in survival mode, have no qualms, about eliminating with sweet vengeance any hostile thing that threatens me or mine --be it man or animal..
Thank God for my Native American bloodline.. As sadly someday it may come in very, very handy..
I am not queasy about taking scalps if it is the right kind of vermin invading my safe space created for me and mine..
Savage actions are sometimes called for, given the right circumstances, IMHO.
FRIENDS AND GOOD COOKS WOULD BE WELCOMED...- ;) -- -Tyr

jimnyc
08-16-2017, 12:49 PM
We should all get an off-grid place together. Though I really have nothing much to offer...

We always talked about a DP get together - ALASKA and Rick's cabin is the place. It would be some time that we would NEVER forget!!

SassyLady
08-16-2017, 02:18 PM
Unsure - but it will probably look a little like this - and have outbuildings, barn, livestock holding areas and grazing areas. And chickens.

http://images.landandfarm.com/resizedimages/1620/2880/w/1-2719930952

northern Arizona would work

NightTrain
08-16-2017, 09:25 PM
We always talked about a DP get together - ALASKA and Rick's cabin is the place. It would be some time that we would NEVER forget!!

Well, we can set up a block of time for a DP get together up at the cabin when the fishing is best - last week of July / first week of August 2018. I usually take that time off for visitors every year anyway.

I have two spare rooms here in my house and between my 3 vehicles I can transport 19 people at once. There's also a pretty nice hotel about 5 miles from my house in Wasilla. Of course, I'll provide the river transportation to and from the cabin in my boat.

Really, all anyone needs to bring are your clothes. I have enough fishing gear to supply a lot of people and there's always the option to rent a car and take off solo touring Alaska after the get together.

So, if a bunch of DP people want to come up, I'm game. It'd be a blast!

Abbey Marie
08-16-2017, 10:28 PM
Well, we can set up a block of time for a DP get together up at the cabin when the fishing is best - last week of July / first week of August 2018. I usually take that time off for visitors every year anyway.

I have two spare rooms here in my house and between my 3 vehicles I can transport 19 people at once. There's also a pretty nice hotel about 5 miles from my house in Wasilla. Of course, I'll provide the river transportation to and from the cabin in my boat.

Really, all anyone needs to bring are your clothes. I have enough fishing gear to supply a lot of people and there's always the option to rent a car and take off solo touring Alaska after the get together.

So, if a bunch of DP people want to come up, I'm game. It'd be a blast!

After the hip is fixed, I'd love it!

High_Plains_Drifter
08-17-2017, 06:59 AM
I have a very good friend that I keep in pretty close touch with that I worked with at Reno Harley Davidson. He's born and raised Alaskan and has moved back to Anchorage since our time in Reno. Part of the reason I bought the big Chevy was a plan to pull a comfortable sized 5th wheel trailer up to Alaska. Doesn't sound like I could get the trailer to a remote cabin though.

darin
08-17-2017, 07:45 AM
Get up there - sell it for a place to secure your bit of heaven

High_Plains_Drifter
08-17-2017, 08:17 AM
I've got a pretty nice place here in WI. Got it for cheap and have done a lot of renovation on the place, especially the large, two story, 3 bay shop. It'd be really hard to walk away from this place now.

darin
08-17-2017, 08:34 AM
okay - I thought when you said you got it to pull the 5th wheel you were gonna move.

NightTrain
08-17-2017, 08:35 AM
I have a very good friend that I keep in pretty close touch with that I worked with at Reno Harley Davidson. He's born and raised Alaskan and has moved back to Anchorage since our time in Reno. Part of the reason I bought the big Chevy was a plan to pull a comfortable sized 5th wheel trailer up to Alaska. Doesn't sound like I could get the trailer to a remote cabin though.

Nope, there's no road anywhere around the cabin. The only access is by jetboat and snowmachine.

There's room beside my house next to where I park my boat for an RV, though, a friend of mine from Montana had his big RV / Toy Hauler parked here last summer.

High_Plains_Drifter
08-17-2017, 08:37 AM
okay - I thought when you said you got it to pull the 5th wheel you were gonna move.
I guess I should have mentioned to visit...

High_Plains_Drifter
08-17-2017, 08:39 AM
Nope, there's no road anywhere around the cabin. The only access is by jetboat and snowmachine.

There's room beside my house next to where I park my boat for an RV, though, a friend of mine from Montana had his big RV / Toy Hauler parked here last summer.
In Wasilla? You ever see any Palins out and about?

NightTrain
08-17-2017, 08:50 AM
In Wasilla? You ever see any Palins out and about?

Yeah. I pointed out Sarah's house to Jim while he was here. We run across them occasionally at one of the grocery stores.

My stepdaughter (1st marriage) went to school with Bristol for most of her K-12 days.

They're a normal family and good people, despite what the media did to them. Todd is a great guy, a very hard worker and rides a snowmachine like a madman... he's very talented. Takes a big pair to win the Iron Dog.

Black Diamond
08-18-2017, 05:02 PM
Yeah. I pointed out Sarah's house to Jim while he was here. We run across them occasionally at one of the grocery stores.

My stepdaughter (1st marriage) went to school with Bristol for most of her K-12 days.

They're a normal family and good people, despite what the media did to them. Todd is a great guy, a very hard worker and rides a snowmachine like a madman... he's very talented. Takes a big pair to win the Iron Dog.
Could you see Russia from that point? :)

michiganFats
08-18-2017, 07:13 PM
Yeah. I pointed out Sarah's house to Jim while he was here. We run across them occasionally at one of the grocery stores.

My stepdaughter (1st marriage) went to school with Bristol for most of her K-12 days.

They're a normal family and good people, despite what the media did to them. Todd is a great guy, a very hard worker and rides a snowmachine like a madman... he's very talented. Takes a big pair to win the Iron Dog.

Do you still get reporters up there or are they leaving the Palins alone now?

I had to look up the Iron Dog. A 2,000 mile snowmobile race across Alaska? That is insane.

NightTrain
08-19-2017, 12:30 AM
Could you see Russia from that point? :)

We can't, but Tina Fey allegedly is able to!


Do you still get reporters up there or are they leaving the Palins alone now?

I had to look up the Iron Dog. A 2,000 mile snowmobile race across Alaska? That is insane.

The swarm of locusts that descended upon Wasilla in 2008 is long gone... that was a friggin zoo. The scumbags were actually staking out schools, trying to get students to dish dirt on Bristol, my stepdaughter was among those approached and asked leading questions. It was despicable and we all instructed our children not to talk to the strange adults asking weird questions about their classmates.

Then I read about how there were Book Burnings at our local library when Sarah was Mayor, and a host of other completely made up bullshit that was nothing but smears. I still get a bit angry when I remember all of the lies I read and I got a first hand view of the liberal machine that even now is working against Trump.

Anyway, yeah... the Iron Dog is one hell of a race. It starts outside of Wasilla in Big Lake, then to Nome, then to Fairbanks. I have a friend that has run it a few times, and a 60 year old co-worker that broke his leg last fall training to run it again. You have to be in incredible shape and be a little crazy to ride 80+mph cross country like that. I've wiped out at 105 mph before on my sled, and I haven't gone that fast since then - that hurt. Bad.

michiganFats
08-19-2017, 12:54 AM
I like to ride my sled during the winter but 105 mph? I've never gotten close to that. I got up to 60 once and slowed down because I didn't know the terrain well enough.