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darin
08-21-2017, 07:42 AM
Great YT channel. The woman, Esther, is warm and has a voice like everyone's kindergarten teacher.

Here's the latest video - suggest watching to learn a lot about what it would take to live off grid.

Cliff's notes: Hard work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TYVnVhDhZQ

michiganFats
08-21-2017, 07:49 AM
I've never understood this back to nature prepping thing. It sounds like a bad idea to me.

darin
08-21-2017, 08:03 AM
I love the idea of being unplugged.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10806&d=1503317396

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10805&d=1503317390

Things like this speak to me - to avoid these situations. To be responsible for my sustenance and security. The only almost-impossible thing would be a fascist government because citizens haven't the tech, thanks to laws that "protect us" nor the weaponry to avoid military-grade detection.

The alternatives? Government camps where defense is impossible and folks live as prisoners at the hands of those who control their movements, food, and self-reliance.

michiganFats
08-21-2017, 08:37 AM
I love the idea of being unplugged.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10806&d=1503317396

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10805&d=1503317390

Things like this speak to me - to avoid these situations. To be responsible for my sustenance and security. The only almost-impossible thing would be a fascist government because citizens haven't the tech, thanks to laws that "protect us" nor the weaponry to avoid military-grade detection.

The alternatives? Government camps where defense is impossible and folks live as prisoners at the hands of those who control their movements, food, and self-reliance.

The problem is you're stationary. If anyone with any ability finds you you're toast.

darin
08-21-2017, 09:57 AM
The problem is you're stationary. If anyone with any ability finds you you're toast.

I suppose folks with ability won't be the folks rioting/looting, etc.

There's really no good place to set a defense - if I could order about 1000 T-walls and do a proper LSA entrance leading up to a proper LSA....hrm...

I suspect, however, three people with AR15s could wreck whatever house I had because houses don't easily stop bullets. Then of course, they could simply burn my shit down.

Nothing is safe.

michiganFats
08-21-2017, 10:38 AM
I suppose folks with ability won't be the folks rioting/looting, etc.

There's really no good place to set a defense - if I could order about 1000 T-walls and do a proper LSA entrance leading up to a proper LSA....hrm...

I suspect, however, three people with AR15s could wreck whatever house I had because houses don't easily stop bullets. Then of course, they could simply burn my shit down.

Nothing is safe.

That's why I have a boat, I figure the Great Lakes are safe. Unless the shit hits the fan during Winter, then I may have to rethink my plan.

High_Plains_Drifter
08-21-2017, 04:19 PM
I suppose folks with ability won't be the folks rioting/looting, etc.

There's really no good place to set a defense - if I could order about 1000 T-walls and do a proper LSA entrance leading up to a proper LSA....hrm...

I suspect, however, three people with AR15s could wreck whatever house I had because houses don't easily stop bullets. Then of course, they could simply burn my shit down.

Nothing is safe.
That's why you talk to your neighbors, and have your own little secret neighbor coalition. I agree a good rifle will shoot right through a house and kill you, that's what trees are for... ;)

But hopefully these 3 people that show up won't get the drop on you. You'll know the proverbial shit has hit the fan and you'll be expecting them, and where ever they're shooting at you from probably won't offer them any more protection than you have, so possibly you'll be able to return fire and neutralize them before they get you. Not only that, but they may have someone behind them that they're not aware of that will take them out. I know it won't be pretty, but I agree a good offense is a good defense.

darin
08-22-2017, 02:23 AM
But hopefully...

Hope is not a plan. In the worst-case scenario it will require NVGs/Therms and guard duty. May also need things like stand-to - every morning just before sunrise a 'show of force' as everyone reports to their guarded area - because lots of attacks take place just before sunrise and just after sunset.

SassyLady
08-23-2017, 12:11 AM
I have about 30 different kind of cacti and about 15 different kinds of snakes that help keep intruders away.
:coffee:

SassyLady
08-23-2017, 12:13 AM
I'm still looking for a reasonably priced solar generator. Does anyone out there have any recommendations?

Kathianne
08-23-2017, 01:04 AM
I have about 30 different kind of cacti and about 15 different kinds of snakes that help keep intruders away.
:coffee:

Indeed! :laugh2: