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Russ
12-08-2017, 04:52 PM
https://www.postandcourier.com/news/this-is-all-people-crave-accountability-michael-slager-gets-years/article_331553da-db5b-11e7-a06e-9fb99ca21ecb.html


The jury just made its decision on the case of Walter Scott, the black man who was shot and killed by a Charleston police officer as year or two ago, while he was trying to run away.

With all the cases of police officers accused of brutality or killings of black men, such as Ferguson, Baltimore, and Detroit, this is the case that I most thought the police office was clearly guilty and wasn't just a rabble-rousing media event. And the jury did indeed come back with a Guilty verdict. I've always found it inexplicable, though, how the media and the pot-stirring politicians never wanted to comment on this case. They only wanted to comment on Ferguson, Baltimore, and Detroit - cases where it was much more plausible that the police had done little wrong.

Why is that? Even the reporting of this Guilty verdict today seems low-profile. My guess - the media is more interesting in stirring the pot and fomenting racial problems than they are interested in truth or justice. Any other theories?

jimnyc
12-08-2017, 04:59 PM
Yup - no major reporting when it's the other way around, it doesn't help any agenda nor sell as many newspapers.

And like the article states - accountability. They want accountability, and justice to be served. Personally, I do think our system works, and are usually correct in their findings with the facts presented - even though people don't always agree with that sentiment.

But now here we have a family that got the verdict they wanted, they needed (although fell short IMO), and part of that justice IMO should have also been the whole world been shown the verdict, showing them that justice has been served.

I can barely find blurbs on CNN, MSNBC, CBS news, NBC news.... I DID find it on conservative sites, oddly enough, but that is NOT enough.

The news media have failed this family, even if the courts did get it right.

Gunny
12-08-2017, 05:00 PM
https://www.postandcourier.com/news/this-is-all-people-crave-accountability-michael-slager-gets-years/article_331553da-db5b-11e7-a06e-9fb99ca21ecb.html


The jury just made its decision on the case of Walter Scott, the black man who was shot and killed by a Charleston police officer as year or two ago, while he was trying to run away.

With all the cases of police officers accused of brutality or killings of black men, such as Ferguson, Baltimore, and Detroit, this is the case that I most thought the police office was clearly guilty and wasn't just a rabble-rousing media event. And the jury did indeed come back with a Guilty verdict. I've always found it inexplicable, though, how the media and the pot-stirring politicians never wanted to comment on this case. They only wanted to comment on Ferguson, Baltimore, and Detroit - cases where it was much more plausible that the police had done little wrong.

Why is that? Even the reporting of this Guilty verdict today seems low-profile. My guess - the media is more interesting in stirring the pot and fomenting racial problems than they are interested in truth or justice. Any other theories?Damn, Russ. I saw your name and "Walter Scott" and I expected something intelligent about English lit :laugh:

Russ
12-08-2017, 05:11 PM
Damn, Russ. I saw your name and "Walter Scott" and I expected something intelligent about English lit :laugh:

:laugh: Hah!

Gunny
12-08-2017, 05:19 PM
https://www.postandcourier.com/news/this-is-all-people-crave-accountability-michael-slager-gets-years/article_331553da-db5b-11e7-a06e-9fb99ca21ecb.html


The jury just made its decision on the case of Walter Scott, the black man who was shot and killed by a Charleston police officer as year or two ago, while he was trying to run away.

With all the cases of police officers accused of brutality or killings of black men, such as Ferguson, Baltimore, and Detroit, this is the case that I most thought the police office was clearly guilty and wasn't just a rabble-rousing media event. And the jury did indeed come back with a Guilty verdict. I've always found it inexplicable, though, how the media and the pot-stirring politicians never wanted to comment on this case. They only wanted to comment on Ferguson, Baltimore, and Detroit - cases where it was much more plausible that the police had done little wrong.

Why is that? Even the reporting of this Guilty verdict today seems low-profile. My guess - the media is more interesting in stirring the pot and fomenting racial problems than they are interested in truth or justice. Any other theories?You pretty much nailed it. The end result is anti-climactic as no one's rioting. Now, if they had found the cop not guilty? All Hell would have broken loose with the MSM in the lead whip in hand.

LongTermGuy
12-08-2017, 05:20 PM
~ "This is the case that I most thought the police office was clearly guilty and wasn't just a rabble-rousing media event. And the jury did indeed come back with a Guilty verdict. I've always found it inexplicable, though, how the media and the pot-stirring politicians never wanted to comment on this case. They only wanted to comment on Ferguson, Baltimore, and Detroit - cases where it was much more plausible that the police had done little wrong."~


Once in awhile stuff happens...But your correct Russ...They only want to talk about the "hands up dont shoot" False story and all the other black lies matter similar stories ....They have a purpose in life with that agenda....Never talk about all the other shootings in Dem run cities...The Dem Plantation is comfy which fits with the `give me` socialist mind-set and overall end game...

hjmick
12-08-2017, 06:26 PM
No jury. Judge.

Black Diamond
12-08-2017, 06:28 PM
No jury. Judge.
I believe you, as you live there, but how can that be?

hjmick
12-08-2017, 06:42 PM
This one is truly disturbing:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=M62Va6Ft2cw&has_verified=1


Arizona cop cleared of murder after fatally shooting unarmed man (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/arizona-cop-cleared-of-murder-after-fatally-shooting-unarmed-man/ar-BBGnZoB)

hjmick
12-08-2017, 06:51 PM
I believe you, as you live there, but how can that be?


The state trial resulted in a hung jury, the prosecution didn't want to try again. He plead guilty to federal charges, violating/depriving Scott of his civil rights, after the guilty plea it was just a matter of hearing arguments from the lawyers and the judge made the call.

From the article:

...Slager pleaded guilty in May to the federal civil rights violation for using excessive force. But it was the judge’s responsibility to decide the underlying offense: second-degree murder or voluntary manslaughter.

Norton largely dismissed Slager’s manslaughter argument that the officer had been provoked by Scott’s resistance, calling the motorist’s actions “wrongful” but not deserving of Slager’s reaction.

Instead, the officer acted with malice by repeatedly shooting the unarmed and fleeing Scott, the judge said.

In reaching the murder finding, Norton rejected a pre-sentencing report’s recommendation that Slager should serve between 10 and 13 years behind bars.

The judge reduced the penalty from the maximum lifetime term for reasons that had little to do with the shooting. He agreed with the defense team's argument that its attorneys were outnumbered by federal and state prosecutors who doggedly pursued a stiff prison sentence. Slager also would be at risk of being assaulted in prison because he’s a former police officer, Norton said.

The sentencing relied on several legal determinations based on Norton’s view of the facts, and in delivering the penalty, he mentioned that he had consulted his wife, a forensic pathologist, in reviewing Scott’s autopsy.


That last emphasized section will probably be key in Slager's appeal. The judge should not have consulted anyone...

Gunny
12-08-2017, 06:52 PM
I believe you, as you live there, but how can that be?In some states you can waive your Right to a jury trial and be tried by the judge alone. I say "some states" ... I do not know for a fact whether or not that is State or Federal law. I believe it is State law though. Without looking though, Ithink it said the judge is Federal. All I know is it is an option in some places.