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High_Plains_Drifter
12-22-2017, 08:21 AM
This just makes my blood boil. First of all, I don't understand HOW a little CIRCUIT COURT got MORE POWER than the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES. Since WHEN? WHO gave them this power? It's not in the constitution. We have the LEGISLATIVE, the EXECUTIVE, and the JUDICIAL branch of the government, all three EQUAL in power, and JUDICIAL means the SUPREME COURT, not every little hick circuit court across America.

The president is the COMMANDER AND CHIEF of the military. He signed a DIRECTIVE, and no little leftist ASS CLOWN activist circuit court judge should be able to UNDERMINE his CONSTITUTIONAL POWER like this. I have no idea how this happens. If I was president, I'd tell this court to go POUND SAND, that they have over stepped their authority, and if they don't like, we'll see you in court, AT THE SUPREME COURT, because they're the ONLY court with EQUAL power of the president, NOT YOU.

But here we go again with the FAGGOT LOVING LIBERAL TRASH wanting to use our MILITARY as their SOCIAL EXPERIMENT PETRI DISH for their PERVERTS. Once again the LEFT showing us just what kind of disgusting sexual DEVIANT lovers they are. Just unreal. If you're a heterosexual, tough shit, but if you're a HOMO PERVERT, oh boy, the DEMOCRATS HAVE YOUR BACK. They are literally, the TRASH of society.


Court throws out Trump's appeal to keep transgender people from enlisting in military


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/22/court-throws-out-trumps-appeal-to-keep-transgender-people-from-enlisting-in-military.html

GravyBoat
12-22-2017, 01:29 PM
The Yinon Plan For Greater Israel needs all the cannon fodder it can get. Trannies have just as much right to fight and die for Israel as a normal American, hooray.

:salute:

mundame
12-22-2017, 02:18 PM
The Yinon Plan For Greater Israel needs all the cannon fodder it can get. Trannies have just as much right to fight and die for Israel as a normal American, hooray.

:salute:

It has occurred to me that there is a good point here:

The military is under so much pressure to get more people, that they'll take absolutely whatever cannon fodder they can get, and yes, why should anyone mind if psycho trannies are killed in war? Or homosexuals.

Of course they are taking those types: they are so desperate they are planning to make women sign up for the draft. I think that one might be a bridge too far, but I'm opposed to conscription generally so I'm not worrying about it.

Bilgerat
12-22-2017, 03:44 PM
It has occurred to me that there is a good point here:

The military is under so much pressure to get more people, that they'll take absolutely whatever cannon fodder they can get, and yes, why should anyone mind if psycho trannies are killed in war? Or homosexuals.

Of course they are taking those types: they are so desperate they are planning to make women sign up for the draft. I think that one might be a bridge too far, but I'm opposed to conscription generally so I'm not worrying about it.


So we can't seem to be able to take care of our Vets, but we can afford to pay for sex changes, meds to support them etc?

Gunny
12-22-2017, 04:16 PM
This just makes my blood boil. First of all, I don't understand HOW a little CIRCUIT COURT got MORE POWER than the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES. Since WHEN? WHO gave them this power? It's not in the constitution. We have the LEGISLATIVE, the EXECUTIVE, and the JUDICIAL branch of the government, all three EQUAL in power, and JUDICIAL means the SUPREME COURT, not every little hick circuit court across America.

The president is the COMMANDER AND CHIEF of the military. He signed a DIRECTIVE, and no little leftist ASS CLOWN activist circuit court judge should be able to UNDERMINE his CONSTITUTIONAL POWER like this. I have no idea how this happens. If I was president, I'd tell this court to go POUND SAND, that they have over stepped their authority, and if they don't like, we'll see you in court, AT THE SUPREME COURT, because they're the ONLY court with EQUAL power of the president, NOT YOU.

But here we go again with the FAGGOT LOVING LIBERAL TRASH wanting to use our MILITARY as their SOCIAL EXPERIMENT PETRI DISH for their PERVERTS. Once again the LEFT showing us just what kind of disgusting sexual DEVIANT lovers they are. Just unreal. If you're a heterosexual, tough shit, but if you're a HOMO PERVERT, oh boy, the DEMOCRATS HAVE YOUR BACK. They are literally, the TRASH of society.


Court throws out Trump's appeal to keep transgender people from enlisting in military


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/22/court-throws-out-trumps-appeal-to-keep-transgender-people-from-enlisting-in-military.htmlProcedure. He has to check the little box that says "pissant court" before he can appeal over its head.

High_Plains_Drifter
12-22-2017, 05:14 PM
The Yinon Plan For Greater Israel needs all the cannon fodder it can get. Trannies have just as much right to fight and die for Israel as a normal American, hooray.

:salute:
Ever hear the old saying, "one rotten apple spoils the whole barrel?"

There ya go. These perverts ruin the cohesiveness of a battle group.

Why upset an entire unit worried about some disgusting pervert in their ranks, when you'll have a much better fighting force without them?

Faggots are NOT a majority. They are a very small minority of mentally ill sexual PERVERTS. They have no business in the military. If they want to fight, let them go down to the local homo YMCA and join a boxing club, and then start a gofundme page for them to get their dicks cut off and queer bait hormone drugs. The military isn't a petri dish for pervert loving democraps.

Gunny
12-22-2017, 05:21 PM
Ever hear the old saying, "one rotten apple spoils the whole barrel?"

There ya go. These perverts ruin the cohesiveness of a battle group.

Why upset an entire unit worried about some disgusting pervert in their ranks, when you'll have a much better fighting force without them?

Faggots are NOT a majority. They are a very small minority of mentally ill sexual PERVERTS. They have no business in the military. If they want to fight, let them go down to the local homo YMCA and join a boxing club, and then start a gofundme page for them to get their dicks cut off and queer bait hormone drugs. The military isn't a petri dish for pervert loving democraps.Remember I pointed out I count victories by legislation? Trump cannot Constitutionally overrule written law. Either he gets Congress to write a new law, or the Supreme Court decides.

IMO, THAT is the ONLY leverage a lower court has over the President. I don't know exactly what the Constitutional law on the matter is. I'm SURE fags weren't covered in the Bill of Rights by the Founding Fathers. In the absence of law, a lower court can rule but it is subject to appeal. One would think the Chief Executive could cut to the chase and walk across the street to the Supreme Court. I think there's a BIG problem if the Chief Executive and CinC can be tied up by some peon leftwingnut judge's legislation from the bench.

Black Diamond
12-22-2017, 05:25 PM
How did Obama let them in there ?

Gunny
12-22-2017, 05:36 PM
How did Obama let them in there ?I have no idea. Trannies aren't covered by anything. The rules are male-female. I don't recall him getting a law passed. Haven't changed the Bill of Rights to cover confused freaks that I know of.

Problem is, however it happened, no you have a legal precedent by a lower court. It will have to be slammed. Best way to slam it is if the Supreme Court ruled the lower court was a pissant and had no standing to rule on the issue.

High_Plains_Drifter
12-22-2017, 05:37 PM
Remember I pointed out I count victories by legislation? Trump cannot Constitutionally overrule written law. Either he gets Congress to write a new law, or the Supreme Court decides.

IMO, THAT is the ONLY leverage a lower court has over the President. I don't know exactly what the Constitutional law on the matter is. I'm SURE fags weren't covered in the Bill of Rights by the Founding Fathers. In the absence of law, a lower court can rule but it is subject to appeal. One would think the Chief Executive could cut to the chase and walk across the street to the Supreme Court. I think there's a BIG problem if the Chief Executive and CinC can be tied up by some peon leftwingnut judge's legislation from the bench.
I'd like to see in writing where it states that a little circuit court judge has the power to over rule a directive or executive order from the president of the united states. No one has ever been able to show me that.

Or show me where a little lower circuit court has the equal power of the president. I don't believe they do.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I believe that when the constitution says there's 3 equal branches of power, when it states the judicial branch, they're referring to the supreme court, not these little lower circuit courts.

I'm going to have dig into this. Newt Gingrich has made this case before that these little activist judges don't have this power either, he's even argued that the supreme court should be able to be contested by the president because even they are supposed be EQUAL, not the end all be all of decisions, but I've never seen anything definitive either way. We have a serious problem if they do. Then these jack asses could tie up anything and everything rendering the president of the united states, more or less, subjective to THEIR whim. So why have a president? Why have an executive branch when it can be kicked to the curb at every turn by some little circuit judge?

Black Diamond
12-22-2017, 05:38 PM
I have no idea. Trannies aren't covered by anything. The rules are male-female. I don't recall him getting a law passed. Haven't changed the Bill of Rights to cover confused freaks that I know of.

Problem is, however it happened, no you have a legal precedent by a lower court. It will have to be slammed. Best way to slam it is if the Supreme Court ruled the lower court was a pissant and had no standing to rule on the issue.
I don't know if we have the "votes" to do that. Kennedy swung the court on gay marriage.

Gunny
12-22-2017, 06:11 PM
I don't know if we have the "votes" to do that. Kennedy swung the court on gay marriage.I think gay marriage is a different topic though. Abnormal behavior or not, gays are biologically correct. They're just pussies and afraid of the opposite gender. Transexuals are not. They aren't covered in biology because they do not biologically exist. Males and females DO. .

High_Plains_Drifter
12-22-2017, 06:17 PM
"HAPPY marriage"... :laugh:

Black Diamond
12-22-2017, 06:22 PM
I think gay marriage is a different topic though. Abnormal behavior or not, gays are biologically correct. They're just pussies and afraid of the opposite gender. Transexuals are not. They aren't covered in biology because they do not biologically exist. Males and females DO. .
I don't know that Kennedy would see a difference.

High_Plains_Drifter
12-22-2017, 06:30 PM
It appears that in a sense, I am right. When the constitution refers to the 3 coequal branches of government, when referring to the judicial branch, it means the supreme court, but... BUT... it appears CONGRESS has the say as to whether or not a LOWER, "federal" court, has the authority to allow a LOWER circuit court to override a directive or EO from the president of the United States... or am I reading this wrong?


Article III.

Section. 1.

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript

Gunny
12-22-2017, 06:32 PM
I don't know that Kennedy would see a difference.If not, guess the military is screwed. Honestly I don't know why any fags or confused folks want to join the military. Just a matter of time. They WILL be discriminated against one way or the other, Socially shunned.

I'm glad I retired and am away from that social experimentation crap. When I was in, it was feinstein trying to proven women were as good at being men as men. If you were gay in my unit, your ass was placed under guard for your protection and you got the fastest discharges I ever saw. I can't even imagine what the Col would have thought of someone tuning in an AA requesting his dick get cut off so he could then be a she and GET dicked.:laugh:

High_Plains_Drifter
12-22-2017, 06:36 PM
it appears that in a sense, i am right. When the constitution refers to the 3 coequal branches of government, when referring to the judicial branch, it means the supreme court, but... But... It appears congress has the say as to whether or not a lower, "federal" court, has the authority to allow a lower circuit court to override a directive or eo from the president of the united states... Or am i reading this wrong?


article iii.

section. 1.

the judicial power of the united states, shall be vested in one supreme court, and in such inferior courts as the congress may from time to time ordain and establish. the judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
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Black Diamond
12-22-2017, 06:42 PM
*bump*

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Maybe that's why trump called the guy a "so called " judge.

High_Plains_Drifter
12-22-2017, 06:49 PM
Maybe that's why trump called the guy a "so called " judge.
Well... I've done it a few times already, and I think I'll do it again, and write a letter to Speaker Ryan who is from Wisconsin like myself, and see if he can explain to me why these "lower courts" are being allowed to over ride the president, when it would "appear" that congress has the authority to either allow it or not.

Gunny
12-22-2017, 06:55 PM
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???Our law is based on English law and the rule of juris prudence. Legal precedent by judicial ruling is consider law, unless overturned; which, courts are notoriously hesitant at doing. Meaning the good old boy network doesn't like to step on each other's toes.

The former would not be a problem except for the latter. Then the Supreme COurt picks and chooses what it will even listen to.

What you need is the basis for the judge's decision. IIRC, it was that Trump does not have the authority? Or was that ruling against him over cutting funding for sanctuary cities?

It's touchy ground but the President is the CinC of the US military which is under the jurisdiction and control of the Federal government, not any individual state or region. IMO, he makes the rules. The leftwingnuts seem to think otherwise and are playing their usual bullshit games.

High_Plains_Drifter
12-22-2017, 07:03 PM
Our law is based on English law and the rule of juris prudence. Legal precedent by judicial ruling is consider law, unless overturned; which, courts are notoriously hesitant at doing. Meaning the good old boy network doesn't like to step on each other's toes.

The former would not be a problem except for the latter. Then the Supreme COurt picks and chooses what it will even listen to.

What you need is the basis for the judge's decision. IIRC, it was that Trump does not have the authority? Or was that ruling against him over cutting funding for sanctuary cities?

It's touchy ground but the President is the CinC of the US military which is under the jurisdiction and control of the Federal government, not any individual state or region. IMO, he makes the rules. The leftwingnuts seem to think otherwise and are playing their usual bullshit games.
Well this is what the constitution says...

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.

So far as I can understand, when the judicial branch is referred to as an equal branch of power, the constitution means the SUPREME COURT, and these lowers courts are governed by congress. So if these little circuit court judges are being allowed to over ride the president, then they're doing so because congress is ALLOWING them to do so, thus, they have the power to stop it... no?

Gunny
12-22-2017, 08:03 PM
Well this is what the constitution says...

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.

So far as I can understand, when the judicial branch is referred to as an equal branch of power, the constitution means the SUPREME COURT, and these lowers courts are governed by congress. So if these little circuit court judges are being allowed to over ride the president, then they're doing so because congress is ALLOWING them to do so, thus, they have the power to stop it... no?You misunderstood. The lower court appointees are ratified by Congress. They are however, part of the judicial branch ultimately subordinate to the US Supreme Court. Those are Federal courts.

State courts are subordinate to the states.

Then you have appellate courts. have no idea how all the shit is set up. I just think there's something wrong with pissant activists overruling the President.

aboutime
12-22-2017, 08:32 PM
https://www.google.com/search?num=20&safe=active&source=hp&ei=ZrE9Wo3vCMeB0gLj76DQDw&q=Constitution+and+President+powers+of+Military&oq=Constitution+and+President+powers+of+Military&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i22i29i30k1.3467.22918.0.23817.48.46.0.0.0 .0.325.6303.0j29j5j1.35.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..13.35.6299.0..0j35i39k1j0i131k1j0i20i264k1j0i6 7k1j0i131i20i264k1j0i131i46k1j46i131k1j0i10k1j0i22 i30k1.0.oBQhadxwt28
According to that same Constitution. The President is the Commander In Chief of ALL Military. So...his word is the Final Word. Not the Judiciary when it comes to Military.

Commander in Chief Powers | Wex Legal Dictionary / Encyclopedia ...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/commander_in_chief_powers
Commander in Chief Powers. Article II Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, the Commander in Chief clause, states that "[t]he President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States."

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The President's Exclusive Power to Direct Military Operations
https://constitutioncenter.org/...constitution/articles/...presidents...power...military.../25
If the United States undertakes military operations, either by authorization from Congress or under the President's independent powers, the Constitution makes the President Commander in Chief of all U.S. military forces, and Congress cannot give command to any other person. But can Congress itself direct how the ...

Gunny
12-22-2017, 08:40 PM
The civilian court and apparently some others in the Federal government forgot. I mentioned early on the US Military is a Federal force, not a local one. States don't get to tell the FBI or DEA what to do.

GravyBoat
12-23-2017, 12:28 AM
I'm thinking of getting breast implants and applying to OCS, I want to be in charge of the Pentagon's feng shui, I want to do the whole place in cowhide.

aboutime
12-23-2017, 03:31 PM
I'm thinking of getting breast implants and applying to OCS, I want to be in charge of the Pentagon's feng shui, I want to do the whole place in cowhide.


We all thought YOU ALREADY had the IMPLANTS. As for applying for OCS.
"Obama's Coward School" might let you be in charge of the Chicago branch of ACORN, under the Pentagon where the Liberal Cesspool from the DNC gets it's waste water from the more than 100 REST ROOMS in the Giant building. You may need the cowhide to protect your KNEE'S....while Kissing Liberal BUTTS.:laugh:

GravyBoat
12-23-2017, 05:16 PM
We all thought YOU ALREADY had the IMPLANTS. As for applying for OCS.
"Obama's Coward School" might let you be in charge of the Chicago branch of ACORN, under the Pentagon where the Liberal Cesspool from the DNC gets it's waste water from the more than 100 REST ROOMS in the Giant building. You may need the cowhide to protect your KNEE'S....while Kissing Liberal BUTTS.:laugh:

Okay, that made even me laugh. That was a pretty good comeback. :laugh:

aboutime
12-23-2017, 05:17 PM
Okay, that made even me laugh. That was a pretty good comeback. :laugh:


Thanks. I only deal with the TRUTH. Funny or not.