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jimnyc
12-22-2017, 07:10 PM
I wonder what is being covered up as I type this, or what is attempted to be covered up anyway. :)

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Did President Obama Read the ‘Steele Dossier’ in the White House Last August?

To date the investigation into the Fusion GPS-manufactured collusion scandal has focused largely on the firm itself, its allies in the press, as well as contacts in the Department of Justice and FBI. However, if a sitting president used the instruments of state, including the intelligence community, to disseminate and legitimize a piece of paid opposition research in order to first obtain warrants to spy on the other party’s campaign, and then to de-legitimize the results of an election once the other party’s candidate won, we’re looking at a scandal that dwarfs Watergate—a story not about a bad man in the White House, but about the subversion of key security institutions that are charged with protecting core elements of our democratic process while operating largely in the shadows.

A Tablet investigation using public sources to trace the evolution of the now-famous dossier suggests that central elements of the Russiagate scandal emerged not from the British ex-spy Christopher Steele’s top-secret “sources” in the Russian government—which are unlikely to exist separate from Russian government control—but from a series of stories that Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson and his wife Mary Jacoby co-wrote for The Wall Street Journal well before Fusion GPS existed, and Donald Trump was simply another loud-mouthed Manhattan real estate millionaire. Understanding the origins of the “Steele dossier” is especially important because of what it tells us about the nature and the workings of what its supporters would hopefully describe as an ongoing campaign to remove the elected president of the United States. Yet the involvement of sitting intelligence officials—and a sitting president—in such a campaign should be a frightening thought even to people who despise Trump and oppose every single one of his policies, especially in an age where the possibilities for such abuses have been multiplied by the power of secret courts, wide-spectrum surveillance, and the centralized creation and control of story-lines that live on social media while being fed from inside protected nodes of the federal bureaucracy.

In a Facebook post from June 24, 2017, that Tablet has seen in screenshots, Jacoby claimed that her husband deserves the lion’s share of credit for Russiagate. (She has not replied to repeated requests for comment.) “It’s come to my attention that some people still don’t realize what Glenn’s role was in exposing Putin’s control of Donald Trump,” Jacoby wrote. “Let’s be clear. Glenn conducted the investigation. Glenn hired Chris Steele. Chris Steele worked for Glenn.” This assertion is hardly a simple assertion of family pride; it goes directly to the nature of what became known as the “Steele dossier,” on which the Russiagate narrative is founded. The fact that Jacoby is a reporter who often shared bylines with her husband at The Wall Street Journal is another reason to take her Facebook post seriously.

Last week’s revelation that Simpson hired Nellie Ohr, the wife of ranking Justice Department official Bruce Ohr, to work on the dossier certainly supports Jacoby’s implicit contention that Steele’s role in compiling the dossier has been exaggerated. Ohr is a Stanford Ph.D. whose expertise is Russia, and she appears to be fluent in the language. Perhaps she conducted interviews, along with—or even instead of—the British ex-spy whose byline helped credential the now-famous oppo research file as an “intelligence product.” Maybe she wrote up parts of the dossier or even the whole thing.

In any case, the history of the “Steele dossier” doesn’t begin with Christopher Steele or Nellie Ohr in the summer of 2016; it begins with a story that Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby co-wrote for The Wall Street Journal dated April 17, 2007. “How Lobbyists Help Ex-Soviets Woo Washington” details how prominent Republicans, including the 1996 Republican presidential candidate Robert Dole, opened doors in the American capital for Kremlin-affiliated oligarchs and other friends of Vladimir Putin. Among those friends of Putin was Viktor Yanukovich, who would become president of Ukraine in 2010. According to the article, one of Yanukovich’s wealthy patrons paid a political fixer named Paul Manafort to introduce Yanukovich to powerful Washington, D.C., figures, including former Vice President Dick Cheney. Manafort figures prominently throughout the piece.

Rest - http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/251897/obama-steele-dossier-russiagate

Black Diamond
12-22-2017, 07:11 PM
Obamagate?

High_Plains_Drifter
12-22-2017, 07:22 PM
If there's a chink being developed in the obama armor, and he is directly implicated, then they need to go after that sons a bitches fake certificate of birth.

Just BURY the mother fucker. He's been the driving force behind ALL OF THIS... mark my words.

Gunny
12-22-2017, 07:31 PM
Difference: Nixon was a Republican at war with the media. He shut them out at every turn. The Washington Post dragged up Watergate.
I don't see the MSM going after Obama any more than it has Hillary. They just ignore the elephant in the room and deflect to more predictions of Trump's failure or how he's really screwing everyone over..

Black Diamond
12-22-2017, 07:36 PM
Difference: Nixon was a Republican at war with the media. He shut them out at every turn. The Washington Post dragged up Watergate.
I don't see the MSM going after Obama any more than it has Hillary. They just ignore the elephant in the room and deflect to more predictions of Trump's failure or how he's really screwing everyone over..
Going after Obama is racist.

At the same time, though, at what point does bashing trump get stale ?

Gunny
12-22-2017, 07:49 PM
Going after Obama is racist.

At the same time, though, at what point does bashing trump get stale ?It doesn't. Besides blatant voter fraud and don't care who knows, another think the chickens on the left do is just keep hammering away relentlessly and refuse to shut up. They did the same thing during Bush's administration. Same shit for 8 years. Everything Clinton left Bush was Bush's fault. everything Bush did was wrong. Everything Obama fucked up was Bush's fault until Trump got elected then it skipped over Obama and became Trump's.

Everybody gets sick of hearing it and complacent and don't show at the polls. Obama would have lost in 08 if not for no shows and 3rd party voters.

But they aren't going to shut up. That's like trying to get my 5 years old granddaughter to shut up and the maturity level between the two is close.

Black Diamond
12-22-2017, 08:09 PM
It doesn't. Besides blatant voter fraud and don't care who knows, another think the chickens on the left do is just keep hammering away relentlessly and refuse to shut up. They did the same thing during Bush's administration. Same shit for 8 years. Everything Clinton left Bush was Bush's fault. everything Bush did was wrong. Everything Obama fucked up was Bush's fault until Trump got elected then it skipped over Obama and became Trump's.

Everybody gets sick of hearing it and complacent and don't show at the polls. Obama would have lost in 08 if not for no shows and 3rd party voters.

But they aren't going to shut up. That's like trying to get my 5 years old granddaughter to shut up and the maturity level between the two is close.
I feel like trump is hit harder than bush was. You would think there would eventually be a backlash.

Gunny
12-22-2017, 08:25 PM
I feel like trump is hit harder than bush was. You would think there would eventually be a backlash.Trump is hit harder for several reasons. Bush was actually low-key. He didn't respond much. The leftazoids still dredged up their fodder, but he didn't give them any. Trump does.

And the lefties can't believe a real estate contractor and reality show host beat their heir apparent and groomed for the job crook, Hitlery. They are incensed over it. I mean come on ... appointing a time and place to yell at the sky? Fabricating a Russian scandal that is turning out to dig up more dirt on them than Trump?:laugh:

Ever wondered just exactly WHAT they're so afraid of? Let's be real. The "people" want wealthy, career politician Democrats instead of republicans WHY? Has anyone ever seen any of this mythical Democratic social reform? Inner cities and inner city crime still looks like shit to me. They've had DECADES to do something. Besides give themselves pay raises.

So WHAT is the crying about?

aboutime
12-22-2017, 10:53 PM
WATERGATE was a real mess, and NIXON actually Obstructed Justice.

But this whole OBAMA, and CLINTON, Justice Dept. FBI crap is growing like a huge SPIDER WEB across Obama's entire admin.
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Only dwarfed by the Clinton's LIES.

Trying to find an opening, or an ending is like STARING AT THE SUN. Blinding forever.

Abbey Marie
12-23-2017, 03:39 PM
Difference: Nixon was a Republican at war with the media. He shut them out at every turn. The Washington Post dragged up Watergate.
I don't see the MSM going after Obama any more than it has Hillary. They just ignore the elephant in the room and deflect to more predictions of Trump's failure or how he's really screwing everyone over..

Agree. Until they find Obama's "blue dress".

Gunny
12-23-2017, 06:11 PM
Agree. Until they find Obama's "blue dress".He'll just hire his crony in shame Clinton to explain to the American people why the dress really isn blue, nor is it really a dress.

High_Plains_Drifter
12-23-2017, 07:35 PM
He'll just hire his crony in shame Clinton to explain to the American people why the dress really isn blue, nor is it really a dress.
It'll be another digital Adobe Photoshop creation that they'll post online and try and pass it off as a scan of an actual dress, that doesn't exist.... pretty much like he did with his fabled hard copy certificate of birth.

Mark my words... someday some enterprising gum shoe is going to gain access to where this supposed hard copy certificate of birth is supposed to be, and find that there IS NONE. But enough time will have passed that everyone will just poo poo it and say, well it's too late to worry about it now. But I think the vast majority of stuffed shirts in Washington already KNOW there isn't one, that's why there's no interest in sending federal marshals to HA with a warrant to find it, there's already so much crap going on now that they don't need to add that to the fire.

The bottom line, never in the history of this nation have we seen the level of corruption and lawlessness that we've had with the obama administration... ever.