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darin
01-10-2018, 06:14 AM
If you had the power - how high would you raise it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFLqYYRpNMQ

mundame
01-10-2018, 09:42 AM
$6. That's enough for minimum wage. Boy, that would up the employment rate! Give people job experience and part time work.

Gunny
01-10-2018, 09:54 AM
$6. That's enough for minimum wage. Boy, that would up the employment rate! Give people job experience and part time work.It's dependent on where one lives. An obvious, simple fact no one ever addresses and/or answers to. The military is even smarter than the "we want a national minimum wage" drones. We got a variable housing allowance and cost of living allowance dependent on where we were stationed.

If I could live here and collect a NYC paycheck I'd be pretty well off. Conversely, I couldn't even afford rent in NYC on what it pays here. Minimum wage here is still Federal minimum wage and it's enough considering who it's designed for. The burger flippers that think they deserve more need to try getting some education and earning more if they want more instead of thinking they're entitled to it.

del
01-10-2018, 10:04 AM
$11.57

https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1.60&year1=196801&year2=201711

Gunny
01-10-2018, 10:07 AM
$11.57

https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1.60&year1=196801&year2=201711I like that calculator :laugh:

I think it was $2.12 per hour when I got my first "for real" job. Minus the hours on the job, I probably made more mowing lawns the year before.

del
01-10-2018, 10:12 AM
I like that calculator :laugh:

I think it was $2.12 per hour when I got my first "for real" job. Minus the hours on the job, I probably made more mowing lawns the year before.

it was $1.60 for me, except when i took a busboy gig- that paid 93 cents/hour, plus tips

:laugh:

them were the days...

mundame
01-10-2018, 11:12 AM
The $6 I mention was my wage back awhile ago, between "better" jobs. Hey, I worked for it. What?

Of course now the unemployment rate is so low people can't find anyone to work who can read --- minimum wage or much better. And I mean read ---- last time this happened in 2000 that was the situation. People were applying for editor jobs and they couldn't read.

GravyBoat
01-10-2018, 12:42 PM
We don't need a minimum wage, we need a maximum wage. If the law can decree a minimum wage, than the law can decree a maximum wage. A maximum wage would ensure the best society, it would return most of the cream to the people.

Vote for Gravy and get the gravy.

:salute:

aboutime
01-10-2018, 03:37 PM
It doesn't really matter what numbers any of us suggest, or believe the Minimum Wage should be. No matter what number...Not everybody will be happy because somebody else will eventually be making MORE, and the number chosen for Minimum Wage will not last.

Let the Capitalist society of business owners choose what their Employee's are worth to their business.
Or, go with the Socialist idea of GIVING everyone....let's say...$100.00 per hour to start.
How long would the business remain? How successful would the business owner be?
What would keep PRICES from Increasing to keep up with the WAGES everyone is demanding, in order to be FAIR, and SHARE the wealth equally???

How long before UNEMPLOYMENT goes sky high, Cost of Living gets out of hand, and we see a repeat of the DEPRESSION????

Anyone? Anyone?

del
01-10-2018, 04:24 PM
It doesn't really matter what numbers any of us suggest, or believe the Minimum Wage should be. No matter what number...Not everybody will be happy because somebody else will eventually be making MORE, and the number chosen for Minimum Wage will not last.

Let the Capitalist society of business owners choose what their Employee's are worth to their business.
Or, go with the Socialist idea of GIVING everyone....let's say...$100.00 per hour to start.
How long would the business remain? How successful would the business owner be?
What would keep PRICES from Increasing to keep up with the WAGES everyone is demanding, in order to be FAIR, and SHARE the wealth equally???

How long before UNEMPLOYMENT goes sky high, Cost of Living gets out of hand, and we see a repeat of the DEPRESSION????

Anyone? Anyone?

so you're arguing that a really stupid idea, for which no one is advocating, is a really stupid idea.

brilliant

aboutime
01-10-2018, 04:32 PM
so you're arguing that a really stupid idea, for which no one is advocating, is a really stupid idea.

brilliant


Nope. I'm not arguing anything. You are. What is your definition of ARGUE?

del
01-10-2018, 04:43 PM
Nope. I'm not arguing anything. You are. What is your definition of ARGUE?

beyond your comprehension, like most things

Black Diamond
01-10-2018, 04:45 PM
I thought, all things held constant, minimum wage created a surplus of employees. It's what Seattle McDonald's is seeing with robots/computers replacing workers.

Black Diamond
01-10-2018, 04:48 PM
Also, if you say we are going to make minimum wage $15 in five years and the market is paying $15 by then anyway..

Then the politicians can claim "they" are the reason you make the $15

aboutime
01-10-2018, 04:51 PM
beyond your comprehension, like most things

Sure thing. Keep telling yourself that kind of thing. Whatever makes you happy in pretending to be something, or somebody YOU WILL NEVER BE.

The TRUTH hurts you so much. It's laughable. And you still refuse to answer questions.

Gunny
01-10-2018, 05:02 PM
We don't need a minimum wage, we need a maximum wage. If the law can decree a minimum wage, than the law can decree a maximum wage. A maximum wage would ensure the best society, it would return most of the cream to the people.

Vote for Gravy and get the gravy.

:salute:What do you call it? Theft wage? That's what it amounts to. As is being proven in our society, not having to excel to gain more has created a class of mediocre losers. If I bust my ass for more, it is theft to arbitrarily take it and hand it to some slug.

Freakin' commie.

aboutime
01-10-2018, 05:55 PM
beyond your comprehension, like most things


del. Had to let you know...honestly. Every time I see your avatar to the top left. I actually imagine THAT'S REALLY HOW YOU LOOK. Comprehend that!

Gunny
01-10-2018, 06:27 PM
I thought, all things held constant, minimum wage created a surplus of employees. It's what Seattle McDonald's is seeing with robots/computers replacing workers.The problem is, the lower end of the motivated spectrum expect minimum wage to pay all their bills for a nice, comfy CEOs life without having to work their way up the ranks earning it. If one's goal is to make minimum wage I'd say one might want to raise the bar on one's expectations of one's self.

Elessar
01-10-2018, 11:42 PM
It's dependent on where one lives. An obvious, simple fact no one ever addresses and/or answers to. The military is even smarter than the "we want a national minimum wage" drones. We got a variable housing allowance and cost of living allowance dependent on where we were stationed.

If I could live here and collect a NYC paycheck I'd be pretty well off. Conversely, I couldn't even afford rent in NYC on what it pays here. Minimum wage here is still Federal minimum wage and it's enough considering who it's designed for. The burger flippers that think they deserve more need to try getting some education and earning more if they want more instead of thinking they're entitled to it.

Try LA County or the SF Bay area.

The rent alone rapes you, let alone the cost of fuel.

darin
01-11-2018, 02:32 AM
Goes for tax rates too. Feds promote taxing 'only the rich!' and 'making more than $200,000 per year!' and dont take into account $200,000 in nyc is like $85,000 in Columbus OH.

High_Plains_Drifter
01-11-2018, 06:46 AM
One thing is for sure, less went further years ago. I remember when I got a job shortly after high school unloading semis making $4 an hour, and that was huge money for an 18 year old kid back in 1973. I had 3 cars, a decent apartment with a roommate and money to party.

I read one time, and it was correct for when I read it, probably a lot worse now, that for me to acquire the same amount of things in life as my parents had, i.e., home, cars, recreational toys, etc, I would have to make some 15x as much money as they did. Like I say, it's probably worse now.

It seems that with most things, you pay more and get less, a bar of soap, a tube of toothpaste, or just the quality of something. All this is done in the name of profits, of greed. Keep squeezing the people for more of their money and give them less.

So what should a national minimum wage be? I'm with Gunny on that. I don't think there can be a one size fits all when the cost of living varies to such high degrees across the nation. Let the states set their own minimum wage, if they must, and let them sink or swim because of it.

GravyBoat
01-11-2018, 07:27 PM
One thing is for sure, less went further years ago. I remember when I got a job shortly after high school unloading semis making $4 an hour, and that was huge money for an 18 year old kid back in 1973. I had 3 cars, a decent apartment with a roommate and money to party.

High Plains, the only way you could make $4 an hour unloading trucks in 1972 is if you were a Union Worker. You were a Teamster, amiright?

High_Plains_Drifter
01-11-2018, 07:31 PM
High Plains, the only way you could make $4 an hour unloading trucks in 1972 is if you were a Union Worker. You were a Teamster, amiright?
No... it was a store in Madison, WI called Copps. I was on the "cutting and marketing" crew. It was hard work but being raised on a farm I was used to it, and I said 1973, not 1972.

I was a member of the AFL-CIO for awhile though because I was FORCED to be. I worked in a supermaximum prison as a Maintenance Mechanic back in 1999 to 2002. Fucking union bull shit. I MADE them give my monthly union dues to my local church... pissed them right the fuck off because I said no way is my money going to be recirculated back into DEMOCRAT ELECTION FUNDS.

GravyBoat
01-12-2018, 11:39 AM
No... it was a store in Madison, WI called Copps. I was on the "cutting and marketing" crew. It was hard work but being raised on a farm I was used to it.

Oh, you were raised on a farm? Is that where you learned to milk bulls?

STTAB
01-12-2018, 12:31 PM
If you had the power - how high would you raise it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFLqYYRpNMQ

$11 an hour, which would put it roughly on par with what it was in the late 1960s. Then I would tie all future raises directly to inflation.

aboutime
01-12-2018, 04:41 PM
Oh, you were raised on a farm? Is that where you learned to milk bulls?



Yeah Gravy. He started milking a Bull by pulling on it's tail, and OUT POPPED YOU!:laugh: