".......Prototypes of Trump’s border wall thwarted US commandos in tests"

[LongTermGuy]

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'Recent assaults by tactical teams on prototypes of President Trump's proposed wall with Mexico indicate their imposing heights should stop border crossers, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the rigorous assessment told The Associated Press.


Military special forces based in Florida and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) special units spent three weeks trying to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the information was not authorized for public release."

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https://www.circa.com/story/2018/01/19/politics/trump-border-wall-prototypes-thwarts-us-commandos-in-tests

[Funky Winkerbean]

I'm seeing the United States devolve into Nazi Germany right before my very eyes,
I've no power to stop the transition and can do nothing more than raise the point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPpAPIIZyo

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I'm seeing the United States devolve into Nazi Germany right before my very eyes,
I've no power to stop the transition and can do nothing more than raise the point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPpAPIIZyo

A FAILED COMPARISON. THE BERLIN WALL WAS BUILT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN A DICTATORIAL, FREEDOM DENYING NEW COMMUNIST NATION.
WHICH WAS HALF OF A FORMER UNITED NATION BEFORE IT WAS DIVIDED..
TRUMP'S WALL IS NOT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN BUT RATHER TO KEEP ILLEGALS OUT.

IF YOU CAN NOT OR ELSE JUST REFUSE TO SEE THAT GLARING DIFFERENCE AND THE RAMIFICATIONS THAT IT PRESENTS, THEN
YOUR BLINDNESS(OR IGNORANCE-IF ITS THAT) REVEALS A GREAT LACK OF SUBSTANCE ON YOUR PART ..

THE POINT YOU--- "RAISED"-- IS FLAWED ON MANY,MANY LEVELS, IMHO.

I JUST PRESENTED ONE OF THOSE, THERE ARE SO MANY MORE..--Tyr

[NightTrain]

I'm seeing the United States devolve into Nazi Germany right before my very eyes,

How is preventing illegals from sneaking into this country in any way reminiscent of Nazi Germany?

Isreal has proven that a robust wall and vigorous patrolling of it is almost 100% effective in preventing terrorists entering, hellbent to kill Jewish civilians - and the terrorists are much better trained and supported than Juan The Drug Mule.

Tunneling? Nope, seismic sensors.

Aerial? Air Force.

Marine circumvention? Coasties.

Direct assault? Yes, please. It's great target practice.

[LongTermGuy]

I'm seeing the United States devolve into Nazi Germany right before my very eyes,
I've no power to stop the transition and can do nothing more than raise the point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPpAPIIZyo


​Ridiculous ...silliness which can only be found in Liberal news outlets...You need to change the channel and get caught up...or you will be left behind.....save yourself...the clock is ticking.


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[High_Plains_Drifter]

I'm seeing the United States devolve into Nazi Germany right before my very eyes,
I've no power to stop the transition and can do nothing more than raise the point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPpAPIIZyo
The only value this post has is that Pink Floyd, The Wall is a cool album. But the place for that is the "What Are You Listening To Now" thread in the music forum.

Unless you just wanted to derail another thread... "Gravy."

[CSM]

I'm seeing the United States devolve into Nazi Germany right before my very eyes,
I've no power to stop the transition and can do nothing more than raise the point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPpAPIIZyo

Wow...that's deep....NOT! How about we devolve into Mexico and not let any immigrants in? Would that be ok? How about North Korea where illegals get an automatic 12 years hard labor?

Any country that cannot control it's own borders doesn't last long. You might ask Native Americans how that "no border" control crap works out.

[Abbey Marie]

How is preventing illegals from sneaking into this country in any way reminiscent of Nazi Germany?

Isreal has proven that a robust wall and vigorous patrolling of it is almost 100% effective in preventing terrorists entering, hellbent to kill Jewish civilians - and the terrorists are much better trained and supported than Juan The Drug Mule.

Tunneling? Nope, seismic sensors.

Aerial? Air Force.

Marine circumvention? Coasties.

Direct assault? Yes, please. It's great target practice.

Yup, Israel does just about everything right.

[Funky Winkerbean]

A FAILED COMPARISON. THE BERLIN WALL WAS BUILT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN A DICTATORIAL, FREEDOM DENYING NEW COMMUNIST NATION.
WHICH WAS HALF OF A FORMER UNITED NATION BEFORE IT WAS DIVIDED..
TRUMP'S WALL IS NOT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN BUT RATHER TO KEEP ILLEGALS OUT.

IF YOU CAN NOT OR ELSE JUST REFUSE TO SEE THAT GLARING DIFFERENCE AND THE RAMIFICATIONS THAT IT PRESENTS, THEN
YOUR BLINDNESS(OR IGNORANCE-IF ITS THAT) REVEALS A GREAT LACK OF SUBSTANCE ON YOUR PART ..

THE POINT YOU--- "RAISED"-- IS FLAWED ON MANY,MANY LEVELS, IMHO.

I JUST PRESENTED ONE OF THOSE, THERE ARE SO MANY MORE..--Tyr

Incorrect, your point fails, because Pink Floyd's album 'The Wall' has nothing at all to do with the Berlin Wall. Rather, it deals with the character Pink's (Syd Barret's) decline into insanity. Further, The Wall represents Pink's "walling himself off" from society, a reflection of the British elite "walling off" the British people from their inherent freedoms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall

In the same way, Trump's Wall is merely the elite creating a massive 'public works project' that won't benefit the public, but will be built by a foreign country. Trump's Wall will in no way limit immigration, illegal or otherwise. The purpose of Trump's Wall is to isolate We the People for our inherent freedoms. Ever heard of The Wall of China? That too was built to deny the people their cream while also failing to keep out the invading hordes. Trump is an idiot for building his wall, which will amount to nothing more than a vainglorious exercise in narcissism and stupidity, history will bear me out on this.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/great-wall-china-donald-trump/

Finally, your use of all caps is indicative of yelling which is rude and untoward. Just because you disagree with my point of view that gives you no right to behave rude and untoward. In the future, I'd appreciate your communications for me to be polite.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

In the same way, Trump's Wall is merely the elite creating a massive 'public works project' that won't benefit the public, but will be built by a foreign country. Trump's Wall will in no way limit immigration, illegal or otherwise. The purpose of Trump's Wall is to isolate We the People for our inherent freedoms. Ever heard of The Wall of China? That too was built to deny the people their cream while also failing to keep out the invading hordes. Trump is an idiot for building his wall, which will amount to nothing more than a vainglorious exercise in narcissism and stupidity, history will bear me out on this.

Your leftist rant sounds very familiar to someone who just got banned. He too would spout tin foil hat conspiracy rants that were so off base and incorrect that no one could take him serious... so... do we know you?

Walls work, just ask Israel. Just ask the border patrol, and it isn't "his" wall. It's AMERICA'S wall, and we need it. But if you expect me to do all the foot work to prove you wrong with links to credible sources instead of the conspiracy websites you're quoting, don't. You're as capable as anyone else to find the truth.

Finally, calling president Trump an "idiot" shows much as to who you really are. You attempted upon arrival to give us the impression you weren't a democrat or leftist. You purported that you've ONLY voted democrat ONCE, but now you call our president an IDIOT. You also purported your daddy was a BILLIONAIRE. Those are some fantastical claims, actually very hard to believe, so if you're going to continue these outlandish claims and spout opinions from the far left, are you going to actually expect us to take you seriously... Gravy?

A leopard can't change his spots, and the more you talk, the more I think you're the person who just got banned, not to mention you sound more like a leftist than anything else.

[Black Diamond]

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[Funky Winkerbean]

I don't know what kind of trip you fellows are on, but you should sell it on Expedia, you'd make a fortune.

The point I was making with my first post was to compare Trump's Wall to that of an overreaching government, Nazi Germany. The Nazis did nothing at all to protect the 'German Folk'. What they were doing was building big government infrastructure and military, that a well connected elite (oligarchs) then benefited from most, since all those things were billed by the oligarchy to the German taxpayer and paid via the German Treasury. That's what Fascism does. The German War Machine was then used to invade countries and steal their wealth in order to pay for that infrastructure. The United States is doing the same today, we've become a Fascist Oligarch.

Another member responded about The Berlin Wall, but that was build by Bolsheviks not Nazis. That's what my previous post addressed. But if this thread isn't interested in debating the issue of Trump's Wall, then I won't comment any further, provided my comments here are left unmolested.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I don't know what kind of trip you fellows are on, but you should sell it on Expedia, you'd make a fortune.

The point I was making with my first post was to compare Trump's Wall to that of an overreaching government, Nazi Germany. The Nazis did nothing at all to protect the 'German Folk'. What they were doing was building big government infrastructure and military, that a well connected elite (oligarchs) then benefited from most, since all those things were billed by the oligarchy to the German taxpayer and paid via the German Treasury. That's what Fascism does. The German War Machine was then used to invade countries and steal their wealth in order to pay for that infrastructure. The United States is doing the same today, we've become a Fascist Oligarch.

Another member responded about The Berlin Wall, but that was build by Bolsheviks not Nazis. That's what my previous post addressed. But if this thread isn't interested in debating the issue of Trump's Wall, then I won't comment any further, provided my comments here are left unmolested.
Ya... you sound EXACTLY like the person that just got banned. Trying to hide it but, you're either his doppelganger or him.

I've been on message boards for a long time, and to run into people like you/him, is rare. You're spouting the same kind of diatribe, and for him to have JUST been banned and then you immediately appear is quite the coincidence. Wouldn't you say? You could even be a friend of his and he's telling you what to say, but the similarity is striking.

Sorry, but I smell a rat, or a mole, whatever.

[Elessar]

How is preventing illegals from sneaking into this country in any way reminiscent of Nazi Germany?

Isreal has proven that a robust wall and vigorous patrolling of it is almost 100% effective in preventing terrorists entering, hellbent to kill Jewish civilians - and the terrorists are much better trained and supported than Juan The Drug Mule.

Tunneling? Nope, seismic sensors.

Aerial? Air Force.

Marine circumvention? Coasties.

Direct assault? Yes, please. It's great target practice.

The Customs Border Patrol has a vigerous presence off San Diego.
They also man a Joint Operations Center with USCG Sector San Diego.

[Gunny]

Incorrect, your point fails, because Pink Floyd's album 'The Wall' has nothing at all to do with the Berlin Wall. Rather, it deals with the character Pink's (Syd Barret's) decline into insanity. Further, The Wall represents Pink's "walling himself off" from society, a reflection of the British elite "walling off" the British people from their inherent freedoms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall

In the same way, Trump's Wall is merely the elite creating a massive 'public works project' that won't benefit the public, but will be built by a foreign country. Trump's Wall will in no way limit immigration, illegal or otherwise. The purpose of Trump's Wall is to isolate We the People for our inherent freedoms. Ever heard of The Wall of China? That too was built to deny the people their cream while also failing to keep out the invading hordes. Trump is an idiot for building his wall, which will amount to nothing more than a vainglorious exercise in narcissism and stupidity, history will bear me out on this.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/great-wall-china-donald-trump/

Finally, your use of all caps is indicative of yelling which is rude and untoward. Just because you disagree with my point of view that gives you no right to behave rude and untoward. In the future, I'd appreciate your communications for me to be polite.I know Einstein's gone ... again ... but the Great Wall of China was built to keep the Mongols out, not to keep people in. It failed regardless. The Mongols just went around it same as Hitler just went around Maginot Line.

However, he got the intent of it wrong. *bzzzzt*XXX

[Elessar]

I know Einstein's gone ... again ... but the Great Wall of China was built to keep the Mongols out, not to keep people in. It failed regardless. The Mongols just went around it same as Hitler just went around Maginot Line.

However, he got the intent of it wrong. *bzzzzt*XXX


Patton said it best in the ERA of mechanized warfare: "Fixed fortifications are a monument to man's stupidty".

[LongTermGuy]

I don't know what kind of trip you fellows are on, but you should sell it on Expedia, you'd make a fortune.

The point I was making with my first post was to compare Trump's Wall to that of an overreaching government, Nazi Germany. The Nazis did nothing at all to protect the 'German Folk'. What they were doing was building big government infrastructure and military, that a well connected elite (oligarchs) then benefited from most, since all those things were billed by the oligarchy to the German taxpayer and paid via the German Treasury. That's what Fascism does. The German War Machine was then used to invade countries and steal their wealth in order to pay for that infrastructure. The United States is doing the same today, we've become a Fascist Oligarch.

Another member responded about The Berlin Wall, but that was build by Bolsheviks not Nazis. That's what my previous post addressed. But if this thread isn't interested in debating the issue of Trump's Wall, then I won't comment any further, provided my comments here are left unmolested.


​"Your not Debating your insulting Americas President with your original post"
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[Drummond]

I'm seeing the United States devolve into Nazi Germany right before my very eyes,
I've no power to stop the transition and can do nothing more than raise the point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPpAPIIZyo

When Hitler gained power, Germany ceased to have a democracy. Hitler did away with it.

Trump, of course, has done no such thing. Rather ... he is a PRODUCT of democracy. Indeed, he represents something which you evidently oppose ... the Will of the People ...

[Gunny]

Personally, I think the "commandos" (commandos are British), were told to not try to hard. No offense to Trump's wall prototypes, but a paltoon of Privates can f*ck up ANYTHING :laugh:

[aboutime]

I am convinced FUNKY is actually the re-incarnation of GRAVY. So, I will be polite and call that member....Funky WANKERbean.

(Wanker, literally "one who wanks (masturbates)", is a general insult. It is a pejorative term of English origin common in Britain and other parts of the English-speaking world (mainly commonwealth nations), including Ireland, Australia and New Zealand.)

Or....a MASTER WANKER who claims highly experienced talents in pretending.


Urban Dictionary: wanker
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wanker
Someone excessively and annoyingly pretentious and/or false, with a strong likelihood of working in the creative industries, especially "new media". Very high populations of wankers are to be found in certain areas of London including Shoreditch and Hoxton; see also Shoreditch twat. 2. Someone with a faintly sociopathic ...

Any questions? Our English (UK) member...Drummond probably knows many.

[Gunny]

I am convinced FUNKY is actually the re-incarnation of GRAVY. So, I will be polite and call that member....Funky WANKERbean.

(Wanker, literally "one who wanks (masturbates)", is a general insult. It is a pejorative term of English origin common in Britain and other parts of the English-speaking world (mainly commonwealth nations), including Ireland, Australia and New Zealand.)

Or....a MASTER WANKER who claims highly experienced talents in pretending.


Urban Dictionary: wanker
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wanker
Someone excessively and annoyingly pretentious and/or false, with a strong likelihood of working in the creative industries, especially "new media". Very high populations of wankers are to be found in certain areas of London including Shoreditch and Hoxton; see also Shoreditch twat. 2. Someone with a faintly sociopathic ...

Any questions? Our English (UK) member...Drummond probably knows many.

He was. He's banned again. Y'know, some people can't pull off not being themselves. Gravy/Funky is one such. He's banned again. It's why I "sorta" went back on topic. :)