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aboutime
02-09-2018, 04:54 PM
But....Democrats applauded the idea for a Military Parade not long ago.

HYPOCRISY RULES FROM THE DNC, and DEMOCRATS...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC5ful9KmPg

Gunny
02-09-2018, 05:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL4ASwhxFj4

gabosaurus
02-09-2018, 07:29 PM
It's not Democrats who are complaining. Most active military and veterans believe it is a huge waste of money and will make the U.S. look like North Korea or a third world Banana Republic.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/373072-military-times-poll-majority-oppose-trumps-military-parade

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/02/08/89-of-readers-say-no-parade/

Even a decorated Navy Seal thinks the idea is "third world bullshit."

http://www.businessinsider.com/robert-oneill-the-navy-seal-who-killed-bin-laden-slams-trump-parade-2018-2

Elessar
02-09-2018, 07:38 PM
I am not in favor of such a thing.

Veteran's Day or Memorial Day is fine.

Otherwise just a needless show of strength.

Liz does have some strong points though. Democrats want to comp on the
bit every time a Republican want to do something Honorable.

Gunny
02-09-2018, 08:01 PM
It's not Democrats who are complaining. Most active military and veterans believe it is a huge waste of money and will make the U.S. look like North Korea or a third world Banana Republic.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/373072-military-times-poll-majority-oppose-trumps-military-parade

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/02/08/89-of-readers-say-no-parade/

Even a decorated Navy Seal thinks the idea is "third world bullshit."

http://www.businessinsider.com/robert-oneill-the-navy-seal-who-killed-bin-laden-slams-trump-parade-2018-2Did you miss the quotes?

Me personally as a vet? I say screw a parade too. I hate them. Nothing sucks more than to have to work for hours parading around practicing for a parade so a bunch of unappreciative clowns like you can show up on "our" holiday -- you know, the one you have off and I don't? -- and act like fools. Send me a thank you if you MUST assuage your guilt by thinking you're doing something.

We can't even get y'all to stand for the National Anthem at football games. You think I want to spend MY time and effort doing anything for YOU? You can take your parade and stick it in a warm, dark wet place.

But for those troops "you support but not the war" that feel appreciated when you do something like take an hour or two out of your day from otherwise being a general f*ckup, it's probably worth the effort.

Oh, and I'm a "decorated Marine Corps grunt". That and 2 dollars with buy both me and the "decorated SEAL" coffee at the 7-11.

aboutime
02-09-2018, 08:15 PM
As a veteran. I also agree...It's a huge waste of time......FOR THOSE IN THE PARADE.

Civilians have no idea about how much trouble, and preparation is needed for such an event.

Most in the military would rather NOT be parading around on their DAY off, away from family they ALREADY spend too much time away from for training, and deployments.

In the Navy. It's the same for those on a ship...ON OPEN HOUSE days, over weekends, and holidays....when everybody else is at home to enjoy the Holiday, instead of being a guide, or babysitter for people who come to YOUR FLOATING HOME...which has to be FIELD DAY'ED...which means WHITE GLOVE CLEAN...just so the visitors can make it dirty. Not to mention the full 24 hour day of DUTY when the DUTY SECTION onboard has double duty with cleaning, watches, eating, and working in their spaces (out of sight of the visitors).
Speaking from years of experience. Military people in a parade are just PUPPETS marching down the street...like advertising pawns that make everybody feel good...EXCEPT THE PEOPLE IN THE PARADE.

Sorry to burst any bubbles. But if you ask anybody on active duty. They won't like being in a parade.
BUT....THEY WON'T ADMIT IT TO ANY CIVILIANS.

Gunny
02-09-2018, 09:27 PM
As a veteran. I also agree...It's a huge waste of time......FOR THOSE IN THE PARADE.

Civilians have no idea about how much trouble, and preparation is needed for such an event.

Most in the military would rather NOT be parading around on their DAY off, away from family they ALREADY spend too much time away from for training, and deployments.

In the Navy. It's the same for those on a ship...ON OPEN HOUSE days, over weekends, and holidays....when everybody else is at home to enjoy the Holiday, instead of being a guide, or babysitter for people who come to YOUR FLOATING HOME...which has to be FIELD DAY'ED...which means WHITE GLOVE CLEAN...just so the visitors can make it dirty. Not to mention the full 24 hour day of DUTY when the DUTY SECTION onboard has double duty with cleaning, watches, eating, and working in their spaces (out of sight of the visitors).
Speaking from years of experience. Military people in a parade are just PUPPETS marching down the street...like advertising pawns that make everybody feel good...EXCEPT THE PEOPLE IN THE PARADE.

Sorry to burst any bubbles. But if you ask anybody on active duty. They won't like being in a parade.
BUT....THEY WON'T ADMIT IT TO ANY CIVILIANS.My favorite was "The Commandant is coming as so's Mrs Commandant. I don't recall there being a post for a "Mrs Commandant". Double the fun? The SgtMaj of the Marine Corps is coming and bringing HIS wife too.

This mean some hapless Lance Corporal who managed to get the low end of base housing because he's got too many kids is going to have lunch with one or both of "the wives". Fresh paint, new carpet, life turned upside down, clothes for the kiddies and a stocked pantry and you're set for a 20 minute cup of tea with the Commandant's wife.

Some "honor". I would feel punished.

Elessar
02-09-2018, 10:00 PM
My favorite was "The Commandant is coming as so's Mrs Commandant. I don't recall there being a post for a "Mrs Commandant". Double the fun? The SgtMaj of the Marine Corps is coming and bringing HIS wife too.

This mean some hapless Lance Corporal who managed to get the low end of base housing because he's got too many kids is going to have lunch with one or both of "the wives". Fresh paint, new carpet, life turned upside down, clothes for the kiddies and a stocked pantry and you're set for a 20 minute cup of tea with the Commandant's wife.

Some "honor". I would feel punished.

We had to scrape and find mooring lines and paint for the 210 ft Cutter I was on...USCGC Venturous.
We had to go to the Navy and take surplus mooring lines and splice them to replace our worn out ones.

Had to go the the Navy and get paint.

But when the America's Cup Challenge in San Diego came about and we were the 'host Ship representing the USCG',
the coffers opened up wide and we got all we needed.

Funny how politics and shit works.

pete311
02-10-2018, 01:03 AM
Other countries do it because they have small dicks. We don't. What is the point of parading tanks down DC streets? Totally third world shit unless we're in a world war. Waste of $$$$.

Gunny
02-10-2018, 05:21 AM
Other countries do it because they have small dicks. We don't. What is the point of parading tanks down DC streets? Totally third world shit unless we're in a world war. Waste of $$$$.You are incorrect. I don't have the time nor inclination to give you a dissertation on the multitude of reasons, but a Marine recruit could shine above you on the topic.

Parades in the US have been used as a "welcome home" and celebration of victory, not a show of force. Civilians have been behind them, not military people. The closest the line ever comes to being blurred is when a President is given a military funeral in DC. Your Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade has nothing to do with the purpose of close order drill and the tactical use of it on the battlefield during the Napoleonic era, nor the practical use of it as a means of efficiently moving a large body of people in formations in an orderly , swift manner. Wars have been won and lost because of its use or lack thereof.

Europe is far more steeped in the traditions of parade than we are. Stalin and Iron Curtain countries use parades as a show of force. It's in their culture and history of which we were not a part. They're hardly "Third World" countries. That idiot in NK uses parades to compensate for HIS penis size because his brain has not evolved out of the 1950s Cold War. He's reliving the movie "Groundhog Day" as has been his family and country for 80 years.

But I'd as soon stay in the barracks on my Saturday mornings as have to show up to practice for hours in the sun to put on a show for YOU.

.

High_Plains_Drifter
02-10-2018, 07:03 AM
According to hypocrite democraps...

FAGGOT PRIDE PARADE - GOOD
MILITARY PRIDE PARADE - BAD

ILLEGAL ALIENS - DREAMERS
LEGAL AMER CITIZENS - DEPLORABLE

PRESIDENT TRUMP CALLS FOR MILITARY PARADE - BAD
DEMOCRAPS CALL FOR MILITARY PARADE - GOOD


And of course the list of hypocritical double standards from the left seems endless...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=VsOhD7Cgong

pete311
02-10-2018, 09:55 AM
According to hypocrite democraps...

FAGGOT PRIDE PARADE - GOOD
MILITARY PRIDE PARADE - BAD


Are tax payers paying for the pride parade? Calling yourself a conservative but then supporting an expensive meaningless military parade is the height of hypocrisy. Trump is obviously just playing to his base and you're the fiddle.

Gunny
02-10-2018, 10:57 AM
Are tax payers paying for the pride parade? Calling yourself a conservative but then supporting an expensive meaningless military parade is the height of hypocrisy. Trump is obviously just playing to his base and you're the fiddle.Taxpayers pay for a "meaningless" military parade about as much as they do a gay parade. The government pays for a military parade as it should. We're US Government troops.

Gays pushing an abnormal agenda at taxpayer expense SHOULD be on the gays' dime. They represent their agenda, not the Nation.

High_Plains_Drifter
02-10-2018, 11:06 AM
Are tax payers paying for the pride parade? Calling yourself a conservative but then supporting an expensive meaningless military parade is the height of hypocrisy. Trump is obviously just playing to his base and you're the fiddle.
"Meaningless?" As opposed to a homo parade having... what... for a meaning?

Talk about HYPOCRITE, you got that covered in SPADES, boy. You spew it out but are just too stupid to realize you're doing it, not to mention your democrat hatred for the military is GLARING.

ANY parade costs the taxpayers MONEY when you have to shut down ENTIRE BLOCKS of city streets to allow it.

Bilgerat
02-10-2018, 11:26 AM
Are tax payers paying for the pride parade? Calling yourself a conservative but then supporting an expensive meaningless military parade is the height of hypocrisy. Trump is obviously just playing to his base and you're the fiddle.


https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27868031_830673623795305_7775534444007342175_n.jpg ?oh=44fbef38f56c3e26b4a6eaa0f65ccfe5&oe=5B25501F

pete311
02-10-2018, 01:33 PM
https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27868031_830673623795305_7775534444007342175_n.jpg ?oh=44fbef38f56c3e26b4a6eaa0f65ccfe5&oe=5B25501F

Am I paying for the top parade? If so, I want my money back too. So you can STFU when assuming things.

Black Diamond
02-10-2018, 02:12 PM
Other countries do it because they have small dicks. We don't. What is the point of parading tanks down DC streets? Totally third world shit unless we're in a world war. Waste of $$$$.
You being an authority on the size of people's dicks...

pete311
02-10-2018, 02:50 PM
You being an authority on the size of people's dicks...

cool story troll

aboutime
02-10-2018, 03:34 PM
You being an authority on the size of people's dicks...



I've been wondering why...whenever I post to, or about petey. He gives me a strange feeling, as if his hand was in my Pocket. So, since he's an authority, and verified it. I should thank him????:laugh::laugh:

aboutime
02-10-2018, 03:37 PM
https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27868031_830673623795305_7775534444007342175_n.jpg ?oh=44fbef38f56c3e26b4a6eaa0f65ccfe5&oe=5B25501F

YES petey. Tax payers are paying for those PRIDE parades. Do you think the police, Emt's, and Fire departments who are on special duty....do it all for FREE?

High_Plains_Drifter
02-10-2018, 04:20 PM
Am I paying for the top parade? If so, I want my money back too. So you can STFU when assuming things.
Yes in one way or another you are paying for it, as was explained to you before you even posted this.

You're memory going to shit or are you cherry picking what to ignore again?

aboutime
02-10-2018, 04:46 PM
Am I paying for the top parade? If so, I want my money back too. So you can STFU when assuming things.



petey. NOBODY here assumes anything about you. We deal with honest facts. If you are assuming here alone. That's your way of doing things. Guess you never learned what the word really means...whether you do it yourself, or accuse someone else of using it. YOU WIN.

Gunny
02-10-2018, 06:15 PM
Am I paying for the top parade? If so, I want my money back too. So you can STFU when assuming things.If you are so concerned about how our tax dollars are spent, you should be outraged at the money being wasted by Mueller investigating rumors.

aboutime
02-10-2018, 06:58 PM
What happened to all of those Liberal, Democrat, Snowflakes who said electing Trump would destroy America?
And, why aren't we hearing about demonstrations across the country, by all those same whiners....COMPLAINING bout their Lower Taxes, and Pay Raises?

And they are worried about spending money for a parade, when their Hero created the 20 TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT?

Yes. Trump and the Repubs have created a TRILLION in new debt too! But that will be paid back as the Economy grows, and the GDP gets higher too! The Repubs NEVER tell anybody about that because too many RINO's who hate TRUMP...also hate him more than they Love the Country.

Elessar
02-10-2018, 07:34 PM
Am I paying for the top parade? If so, I want my money back too. So you can STFU when assuming things.

You are just being your own typical jerk.

STFU is a childish reply from a pre-teen, or liberal with no other reply left.

Elessar
02-10-2018, 07:40 PM
Are tax payers paying for the pride parade? Calling yourself a conservative but then supporting an expensive meaningless military parade is the height of hypocrisy. Trump is obviously just playing to his base and you're the fiddle.

You are so stupid.

Military members serve 24/7/365.

If the Command says we march, then we march.

It is not a show of strength, but of loyalty and unity.

Troops might not like it, but they obey orders and honor the people
watching and giving praise.

As a non-serving liberal whiner, you would never understand that!

"Pride Parade"....Yeah, allowed civil disturbance - in Long Beach CA -not supported by
the Federal government. Liberal city government allows the mayhem, traffic blocking,
assaults on non-believers, egg throwing, cop baiting. I saw it. You have not.


You choose your fights wrong, liberal!

Balu
02-12-2018, 12:38 AM
Other countries do it because they have small dicks. We don't. What is the point of parading tanks down DC streets? Totally third world shit unless we're in a world war. Waste of $$$$.

The creators of EU ver.1 with "small dicks".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SSF3bTCm40

These also have "small dicks". :laugh::laugh::laugh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqHFsuwmeEE

High_Plains_Drifter
02-12-2018, 09:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqHFsuwmeEE
When we'd march around our barracks underneath the big hangover of the building, our TI used to tell us... "DIG IN THOSE HEALS, MAKE SOME NOISE, LET THEM KNOW YOU'RE COMING," so we did.

Those girls marching reminded me of it. I guess China has so many people they can pick girls that are ALL the same height, same weight, same build, same, same, same, just for their parade marching units.

Gunny
02-12-2018, 09:31 AM
When we'd march around our barracks underneath the big hangover of the building, our TI used to tell us... "DIG IN THOSE HEALS, MAKE SOME NOISE, LET THEM KNOW YOU'RE COMING," so we did.

Those girls marching reminded me of it. I guess China has so many people they can pick girls that ALL the same height, same weight, same build, same, same, same, just for their parade marching units.Note how the commie forgot this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDFVNhlBE7U

High_Plains_Drifter
02-12-2018, 09:45 AM
I think we should have a military parade, and the more I think about it, the better idea I think it is, and, I can see why the military hating democraps wouldn't want one, because it just might reignite some American patriotism and love for our military, more people might be inclined to enlist, and the military has historically been pretty much a right wing voting block... AND THE DEMOCRAPS CAN'T HAVE THAT. Ya... no wonder they're so dead set against it.

The more time goes by, the more ANTI American the democrap party becomes. At some point, this is going to cause big, BIG problems, and it won't be resolved with just voting or draining the swamp.

Gunny
02-12-2018, 09:51 AM
I think we should have a military parade, and the more I think about it, the better idea I think it is, and, I can see why the military hating democraps wouldn't want one, because it just might reignite some American patriotism and love for our military, more people might be inclined to enlist, and the military has historically been pretty much a right wing voting block... AND THE DEMOCRAPS CAN'T HAVE THAT. Ya... no wonder they're so dead set against it.

The more time goes by, the more ANTI American the democrap party becomes. At some point, this is going to cause big, BIG problems, and it won't be resolved with just voting or draining the swamp.I think about a parade same as I did however many posts ago, and 40 years ago. Keep it.

Unlike the leftwingbots however, I will support one of one is decided upon. It's kind of like a war or who wins the Republican nomination for President. once the decision's made and out of your hands, you play cards with the hand you're dealt, not whine incessantly about not drawing the one you wanted.

pete311
02-12-2018, 10:02 AM
I think about a parade same as I did however many posts ago, and 40 years ago. Keep it.

Unlike the leftwingbots however, I will support one of one is decided upon. It's kind of like a war or who wins the Republican nomination for President. once the decision's made and out of your hands, you play cards with the hand you're dealt, not whine incessantly about not drawing the one you wanted.

So much for being a conservative and caring about the national debt. You guys are so funny how for years you rail about spending and then say fuck it, let's spend millions to parade some tanks down streets in DC. Yeah that makes sense!

Gunny
02-12-2018, 10:14 AM
So much for being a conservative and caring about the national debt. You guys are so funny how for years you rail about spending and then say fuck it, let's spend millions to parade some tanks down streets in DC. Yeah that makes sense!You never answered MY question. If YOU are so concerned about our debt why do you support a witch hunt that to date has garnered a net "nothing" gain?

I'd as soon spend the money on a parade as set it in the yard a light it on fire like Mueller is doing, and you have steadfastly supported.

Up to me, I'd choose neither. A point you purposefully overlook that i have made quite clear.

If you mean will I support one by showing up if it's being had with or without my consent? Yep. It's to honor my bro's. Blood's thicker than water, pete.

pete311
02-12-2018, 10:19 AM
You never answered MY question. If YOU are so concerned about our debt why do you support a witch hunt that to date has garnered a net "nothing" gain?

I'd as soon spend the money on a parade as set it in the yard a light it on fire like Mueller is doing, and you have steadfastly supported.


If you've kept up at all with the investigation I don't understand how you can come to this conclusion. So far 3 have been indicted. That is not a net nothing.

Gunny
02-12-2018, 10:25 AM
If you've kept up at all with the investigation I don't understand how you can come to this conclusion. So far 3 have been indicted. That is not a net nothing.Three indictments for nothing to do with Trump colluding with Russians to alter the results of the election. Yep, I CAN call that "nothing". Cheesedick busts for lying to Mueller for crimes not related to the topic of the investigation count for exactly not a damned thing to me. Well, it DOES count for showing how desperate Mueller is for ANY kind of bust to justify his waste of natural resources by breathing.

Balu
02-12-2018, 10:32 AM
The most remarkable Military Parade in the History of the USSR.
November 7th, 1941.

That time Nazis were at the suburbs of Moscow and were able to see the capital of our country through their binoculars. (Today there is a monument in a form of escarps, half a way from airport SVO to Kremlin) The troops went directly to the front line after this Parade.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo-JhqAq5qA

pete311
02-12-2018, 10:40 AM
Three indictments for nothing to do with Trump colluding with Russians to alter the results of the election. Yep, I CAN call that "nothing". Cheesedick busts for lying to Mueller for crimes not related to the topic of the investigation count for exactly not a damned thing to me. Well, ig DOES count for showing how desperate Mueller is for ANY kind of bust to justify his waste of natural resources by breathing.

Collusion is 1 of 3 parts of the investigation. I knew, you didn't fully understand it.

Gunny
02-12-2018, 10:44 AM
Collusion is 1 of 3 parts of the investigation. I knew, you didn't fully understand it.I understand completely. That, btw, if a REALLY generic leftwingbot response to not agreeing with you. "I don't understand".

I understand the people doing the investigating are the ones who SHOULD BE under investigation. But then, I cut through the smoke and mirrors and look at the facts and the trail of blood a blind man could smell doesn't lead to Trump.

Sure has opened a WHOLE can of worms on some democrats though :laugh:

High_Plains_Drifter
02-12-2018, 10:49 AM
Collusion is 1 of 3 parts of the investigation. I knew, you didn't fully understand it.
You're in for a very rude awakening, and huge let down.

Of course your denials and outright moronic talk here is understandable. You leftists like to TALK yourselves into feeling better, even if you have to tell yourself fairy tales to do it, we understand.

Your problem is though, we conservatives don't play those stupid games. We just look at you people and laugh.

pete311
02-12-2018, 11:43 AM
You're in for a very rude awakening, and huge let down.

Of course your denials and outright moronic talk here is understandable. You leftists like to TALK yourselves into feeling better, even if you have to tell yourself fairy tales to do it, we understand.

Your problem is though, we conservatives don't play those stupid games. We just look at you people and laugh.

You talk like someone with really low self esteem.

Balu
02-12-2018, 11:46 AM
pete311,
No need to save on matches. :no:

Elessar
02-12-2018, 01:29 PM
You talk like someone with really low self esteem.

I think not.

Your elevated EGO does not allow an opposing opinion.

Pete, you are weak, without a lighted brand to start a campfire.

As if you would leave the basement and city to light one anyway!

aboutime
02-12-2018, 04:20 PM
Collusion is 1 of 3 parts of the investigation. I knew, you didn't fully understand it.

petey...Don't know how many ways you can be told the same thing. But Collusion IS NOT ILLEGAL.

Unless, you do as Hillary did, in conjunction with the FBI, and DOJ leaders under Obama.

That was more than collusion. Something you will deny until your head falls off...
Whoops..."It already did!"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/collusion-is-not-a-crime-by-itself-here-are-the-charges-mueller-could-be-exploring/2017/10/31/eb2b516e-be59-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html?utm_term=.ab6f8aae1686http s://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/collusion-is-not-a-crime-by-itself-here-are-the-charges-mueller-could-be-exploring/2017/10/31/eb2b516e-be59-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html?utm_term=.ab6f8aae1686
Collusion is not a crime by itself. Here are the charges Mueller could ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../collusion...crime.../eb2b516e-be59-11e7-959c-fe2b...
Oct 31, 2017 - Collusion — the word Trump often uses to describe Mueller's case, even as he asserts such a thing never happened — is not itself a crime, and Mueller's team will probably have to sort through unseemly political dealings to determine whether a law was broken, legal analysts said. In his first public charges, ...