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Gunny
04-10-2018, 06:22 PM
PARIS - A Russian warplane this weekend flew over a French warship at low altitude in the eastern Mediterranean, a deliberate breach of international regulations, a French naval source said on Tuesday.


The incident, first reported by Le Point magazine, comes as tensions mount between Russia and Western nations following a suspected chemical weapons attack in Syria on April 7. At least 60 people were killed in the attack, according to a Syrian relief agency.

France, the United States and their allies are considering a coordinated military response after accusing the Russia-backed Syrian government of being behind the attack. Damascus and Moscow have denied a chemical attack took place.

The weekly magazine said the Russian plane had flown over frigate Aquitaine over the weekend and was fully-armed.

The Aquitaine is equipped with 16 cruise missiles and 16 surface-to-air missiles. It is currently operating off Lebanese shores alongside U.S. ships as part of France's contingent fighting Islamic State militants in Syria and Iraq.

"The flight (http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Amid-Syria-tensions-Russian-jet-flies-low-over-French-warship-549411#) took place several days ago," a French naval source said, adding that France had contacted Russian authorities over the matter.

"Passes by military aircraft over warships are things that happen at sea. When it is deemed too close, the opposing party is notified," the source said.

The Russian air force has already carried out such "aggressive" flights (http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Amid-Syria-tensions-Russian-jet-flies-low-over-French-warship-549411#) over Western warships in the past.

In April 2016 two Russian warplanes flew simulated attack passes near a U.S. guided missile destroyer in the Baltic Sea, so low they created wake in the water.Phone calls to the Russian defense ministry in Moscow were not answered after business hours on Tuesday.



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http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Amid-Syria-tensions-Russian-jet-flies-low-over-French-warship-549411

Somebody ought to shoot one down. Might get their attention.

Black Diamond
04-10-2018, 06:36 PM
http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Amid-Syria-tensions-Russian-jet-flies-low-over-French-warship-549411

Somebody ought to shoot one down. Might get their attention.
Was wondering if the white flags had come out.

Black Diamond
04-10-2018, 06:38 PM
How would vladdy respond if we did shoot one down ?

Gunny
04-10-2018, 06:44 PM
How would vladdy respond if we did shoot one down ?Who cares? He's pushing. Time to knock his ass out of our space. He's trying to gain control in the region. The other thread I posted after this one has a better explanation.

We either tuck tail giving him a green light to walk all over the West at will, or we stop his ass. How many times did Europe give in to Hitler before finally doing something?

Black Diamond
04-10-2018, 07:01 PM
Who cares? He's pushing. Time to knock his ass out of our space. He's trying to gain control in the region. The other thread I posted after this one has a better explanation.

We either tuck tail giving him a green light to walk all over the West at will, or we stop his ass. How many times did Europe give in to Hitler before finally doing something?
Trump will be compared to adolf if he hits Putin.

LongTermGuy
04-10-2018, 07:19 PM
Trump will be compared to adolf if he hits Putin.


He is already compared to adolf by the left....Oh...wait...Thats another war!:laugh:

LongTermGuy
04-10-2018, 07:29 PM
How would vladdy respond if we did shoot one down ?

It happened before....




Watch Putin's angry response to Turkey shooting down a Russian plane


>>>>>>>> Nov 24, 2015, 10:34am EST<<<<<<<
https://www.vox.com/2015/11/24/9791158/putin-plane-russia

"Putin's primary goal re downed fighter is to save face at home," Sam Greene (https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/669138230860767232), director of the King's Russia Institute at King's College London, tweeted. "Expect the rhetorical bark to be much worse than the policy bite."

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/pSyBE4FVLbXjFzMHvVIFACikrks=/0x0:820x615/1200x800/filters:focal(0x0:820x615)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/47731791/Screen_Shot_2015-11-24_at_10.32.02_AM.0.0.png

aboutime
04-10-2018, 08:03 PM
It's Time To Thank GOD for the President we now have, and also Thank GOD...the Pant Suit Witch of Excuses didn't win!

Gunny
04-10-2018, 08:29 PM
Trump will be compared to adolf if he hits Putin.I'm not one for picking fights. But I don't let people push me around either. You come looking for trouble, and trouble you will find.

It's definitely time to send Putin a message in the only language he understands: brute force. Pulling the crap he is, he definitely won't have any legal grounds to stand on. He's the one pushing.

Gunny
04-10-2018, 08:32 PM
:saluting2:

It's Time To Thank GOD for the President we now have, and also Thank GOD...the Pant Suit Witch of Excuses didn't win!

Jury's still out on that one. He hasn't done anything yet but talk, and has been reluctant to do that.

Hitlery would have already abandoned everyone in the ME except the Clinton oil buddies.

Black Diamond
04-10-2018, 08:33 PM
I'm not one for picking fights. But I don't let people push me around either. You come looking for trouble, and trouble you will find.

It's definitely time to send Putin a message in the only language he understands: brute force. Pulling the crap he is, he definitely won't have any legal grounds to stand on. He's the one pushing.
Sounds like the communists. They only respected brute force

Black Diamond
04-10-2018, 08:46 PM
Seriously. This has been going on for years. Started under 0ssiah.

Black Diamond
04-10-2018, 10:37 PM
I'm not one for picking fights. But I don't let people push me around either. You come looking for trouble, and trouble you will find.

It's definitely time to send Putin a message in the only language he understands: brute force. Pulling the crap he is, he definitely won't have any legal grounds to stand on. He's the one pushing.
I think the fear is that it will escalate.

darin
04-11-2018, 01:40 AM
i'm ready if they need me. Call anytime, France!

http://www.enpolitik.com/files/uploads/news/default/pkkya-simdilik-silah-5e0f4a574ef1d6d3974c.gif

mundame
04-11-2018, 11:09 AM
http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Amid-Syria-tensions-Russian-jet-flies-low-over-French-warship-549411

Somebody ought to shoot one down. Might get their attention.


Why not? The Turks did. And after that, Russian planes respected their borders. (Apparently they were flying in and out over the border of Turkey.)

I am much in favor of ships shooting down aggressors. Ours against the speedboats that harass our warships in the Gulf of Hormuz, for instance. Shoot a couple, they won't do it after that.

I think this kind of bullying (I should call it "brinksmanship") can only be stopped by counter-aggression. But usually, as with Kim Jong-Un, that will stop it.

mundame
04-11-2018, 11:13 AM
Who cares? He's pushing. Time to knock his ass out of our space. He's trying to gain control in the region. The other thread I posted after this one has a better explanation.

We either tuck tail giving him a green light to walk all over the West at will, or we stop his ass. How many times did Europe give in to Hitler before finally doing something?

You're right. I'm reading book after book now about "between the wars." Armistices don't work. Appeasement, never do it.

Why not? Because it's never, never about the crisis it seems to be about: the Suddetenland or Anschluss with Austria.

It's always really about taking over the world. Either back him off now or Putin WILL take over the world, step by step.

High_Plains_Drifter
04-11-2018, 11:18 AM
Maybe we need WWIII.

Black Diamond
04-11-2018, 01:05 PM
Maybe we need WWIII.
We can avoid it and send Putin a message at the same time. Maybe a warning shot. I've been thinking about this. Gunny. Send Putin a message by firing a shot over his bow?!

Elessar
04-11-2018, 01:23 PM
We can avoid it and send Putin a message at the same time. Maybe a warning shot. I've been thinking about this. Gunny. Send Putin a message by firing a shot over his bow?!

I was never in combat arms like the rest of you.

But getting to see the probable necessity of the above "warning shot across the bow",
if only to say "Back Off, Asshole"!

Drummond
04-11-2018, 05:33 PM
Maybe we need WWIII.

Nobody, anywhere, needs a WWIII. Such a war would almost certainly turn nuclear, and spell the end of the human race - if not from a direct hit, then from radiation poisoning.

That said .. Putin needs to understand that a world where a 'Might is Right' imperative wins out over sheer human decency, is one where everyone's lives are under an unnecessary and unacceptable threat. No power on this planet should believe it possible that chemical weapons against civilians can pass without significant consequences resulting. However it's done, Putin must be made to understand that.

Black Diamond
04-12-2018, 12:09 PM
Who cares? He's pushing. Time to knock his ass out of our space. He's trying to gain control in the region. The other thread I posted after this one has a better explanation.

We either tuck tail giving him a green light to walk all over the West at will, or we stop his ass. How many times did Europe give in to Hitler before finally doing something?
I'll get caught up on your Mideast threads this weekend