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jimnyc
05-02-2018, 02:08 PM
Yup, many reasons to be skeptical, their own past being primary. There are reasons to believe that this will simply be a repeat - after they get concessions. Hopefully, these guys will be smarter and wait for "irreversible" actions to be taken, so that at least something is guaranteed at minimal. It's possible this is all because the little fat kid is broke for now, so it's important to keep the noose tight until such things are done.

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Here Is Why North Korea Will Give Up Its Nuclear Weapons

“If we meet often and build trust with the United States and if an end to the war and nonaggression are promised, why would we live in difficulty with nuclear weapons?” Kim Jong-un told South Korean president Moon Jae-in on Friday. “I know the Americans are inherently disposed against us, but when they talk with us, they will see that I am not the kind of person who would shoot nuclear weapons to the south, over the Pacific, or at the United States.”

Sunday, South Korean officials revealed Kim’s words, which reinforce the promises he made in the Panmunjom Declaration for Peace, Prosperity, and Unification of the Korean Peninsula, signed at his historic summit with Moon.

The Declaration promises, among other things, the “complete denuclearization” of the Korean Peninsula.

Color just about everyone skeptical that the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea will give up its most destructive weapons. As Chris Nelson wrote just hours after the Declaration was signed, “No credible expert on the DPRK argues there is a price which, being met, the Kim Regime will ever relinquish all its nukes, period, given Libya and Iraq.”

There is indeed such a price, and it could be incredibly low. The Kimster will almost certainly give up his nukes if he believes he would lose power if he does not do so. President Donald Trump, therefore, may just have to ask nicely.

How can this be so?

As Nelson suggests, it is exceedingly unlikely that Kim wants to surrender his nuclear weapons. Yes, it appears he agreed to do so Friday, but, as Sung-Yoon Lee of the Fletcher School told the National Interest, “Kim Jong Un’s ploys are completely unoriginal and rather lazy.”

Lee’s right about Kim’s unoriginality. The North Koreans have just recycled old language into new pledges. Friday’s promise follows similar ones the North made in the Joint Declaration of the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, signed January 1992; the Agreed Framework of October 1994; and the Joint Statement of the Fourth Round of the Six-Party Talks, issued September 2005. These vows were made after the most important one of all: the commitment in the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). Pyongyang acceded to the global pact in December 1985.

In view of the four-decade trail of broken commitments, just about nobody believes Kim’s promise in Friday’s declaration.

This time, however, there are two principal reasons for Kim to comply. First, there are Trump’s threatening words—backed up by those of National Security Advisor John Bolton when he was a Fox News contributor—and those of Trump surrogates like Sen. Lindsey Graham. “The loud talk about ‘fire and fury,’ combined with the sight of aircraft carriers sailing towards Korean shores, have not failed to impress concerned parties, including the North and South Koreans, as well as the Chinese,” Andrei Lankov of Kookmin University wrote last month. “Towards the end of 2017, the positions of all these countries underwent rather dramatic changes—and the best or only explanation for this is simple: these countries were increasingly afraid of a war breaking out.”

The threat of strikes on his nuclear and missile facilities is the best explanation why Kim made concessions to Trump—such as last Saturday’s announcement of the suspension of testing and the closing of a test site, even before meeting the American president.

There is another reason why Kim could decide, with surprisingly little resistance, to turn over his nukes: Trump’s sanctions have substantially depleted Kim’s coffers. Office No. 39, the family slush fund, is low on cash according to Chinese sources, and South Korean sources believe Pyongyang could exhaust its foreign currency reserves by as early as October. The elite trooper who defected last November had uncooked kernels of corn in his digestive tract, suggesting the army cannot feed even its most privileged soldiers serving in some of its most sensitive posts.

Without cash, Kim cannot launch missiles; detonate nukes; or keep himself in power with “gift politics,” the buying of loyalty by handing out luxury items to senior regime elements.

So far, sanctions have been tight, but they have been designed only to get Kim to the negotiating table. In this regard, they have apparently succeeded. Trump stated last Tuesday that Kim was in a hurry to talk, wanting to meet “as soon as possible.”

That’s a sign the North Korean leader needs relief from coercive measures. Yet an eagerness to meet does not, of course, necessarily translate into making major concessions.

Rest - http://nationalinterest.org/feature/here-why-north-korea-will-give-its-nuclear-weapons-25625

gabosaurus
05-02-2018, 03:33 PM
In all actuality, this is why North Korea is giving up nuclear weapons: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43894394

jimnyc
05-02-2018, 03:38 PM
In all actuality, this is why North Korea is giving up nuclear weapons: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43894394

And that leaves them with endless areas building their nuclear supplies. The country is littered with nuke stuff. And the area spoken of, supposedly still has 2 viable areas. And none of these does anything about all the missiles and testing, also of which he promised to shelve.

gabosaurus
05-02-2018, 03:54 PM
Obviously you did not read about Kim's response to this situation and previous nuke failures. It was discussed them during meetings between North Korean officials and those from South Korea and China.

jimnyc
05-02-2018, 03:57 PM
Obviously you did not read about Kim's response to this situation and previous nuke failures. It was discussed them during meetings between North Korean officials and those from South Korea and China.

What does that have to do with what I just wrote? Why not quote what you're talking about, and maybe look foolish again?

Kathianne
05-02-2018, 06:18 PM
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/05/02/hmm-north-korea-dismantling-nuke-testing-facility/

Seems related.

LongTermGuy
05-02-2018, 07:22 PM
In all actuality, this is why North Korea is giving up nuclear weapons: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43894394




Most all know this already which is only part of the whole...Thank God weak...Failed Obama and corrupt... insane ...sick Hillary are gone...Nothing would of happened with NK if hillary won the election...except...NK...finding another mountain and re-build...Because Obama / Hillary would of gave them plenty of time...

Pay attention:

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Gabby......
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jimnyc
05-02-2018, 07:42 PM
1 - they declare an end to nuke weapons and all denuclearization, and to allow inspectors/inspections.
2 - they end the long war with South Korea.
3 - they stop all nuke testing & all ICBM testing
4 - stop with threats

If they promise to do these things, and then actually start to do these things - then I couldn't care less if they were prompted by a failing facility or prompted by the crips out of LA, so long as they commit and perform.