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Abbey Marie
05-22-2018, 07:01 PM
Where do you think you fall, percentage-wise, worldwide? I just saw a bell curve representing IQs.

My immediate family is in the top 1.2%, which I think was around 125-140.

I think most of this membership would be the same...

aboutime
05-22-2018, 07:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Yb-w7427U

Kathianne
05-22-2018, 07:16 PM
Last I remember, must have been high school, counselor told my folks tests were around 130.

My oldest, like his dad are in the 'so smart, no sense.' B tested at over 160 at 6 years old. Until returning to college after just leaving and then getting his master's, he was mostly a C student. Nothing in school interested him much and he didn't want to be different. (He still was.)

The youngest loved gifted, the left the school 3 days a week to be with kids from all the schools, including the middle schools when he was in 3rd grade.

hjmick
05-22-2018, 08:00 PM
You've heard of Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius?


I'm smarter than that...

High_Plains_Drifter
05-22-2018, 08:50 PM
I've looked into this IQ bit a time or two and even taken a couple online tests. I came out in the higher 120's near 130, but I was surprised how much of the test seemed to simply be testing my knowledge, not my actual brain power, so after a little digging, this is what I found out about IQ tests...


Is An IQ Test An Accurate Way To Measure Intelligence Or Are Mental Abilities Something You Can’t Put A Number On?

The IQ test is an exam most of us are familiar with, regardless of whether we have taken it or not. The test was originally designed by the French psychologist Alfred Binet in the early 1900s. But in the new millennium, is the IQ test still an effective means of measuring general intelligence? According to the general consensus, the answer is "no."

Read more:
https://www.medicaldaily.com/iq-test-accurate-way-measure-intelligence-or-are-mental-abilities-something-you-cant-put-297244


But, as the article mentions, anyone with an IQ of 130 or above is extremely intelligent, and anyone below 70, well, you're retarded, and with that, below is a link to the average IQ of each nation on earth, and here's a heads up, America is nearer the top than the bottom, but it's nothing to brag about. The average IQ of Americans is 98...

https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country

aboutime
05-22-2018, 08:55 PM
Suppose I tell all of you...I have a Higher IQ than all of you? Who can prove I don't?:laugh::laugh::laugh:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9RGDTx8F1WM/TdKG9MOLrgI/AAAAAAAABJI/wOnJU-xCWVA/s640/American+Healthcare.bmp
http://awarenessact.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/9-signs-that-you-have-a-higher-IQ-than-average-secretfromus-3.jpg

Gunny
05-22-2018, 09:11 PM
126 Whatever that means. I don't recall.

High_Plains_Drifter
05-22-2018, 09:13 PM
126 Whatever that means. I don't recall.
According to many experts, it doesn't mean anything.

Gunny
05-22-2018, 09:44 PM
According to many experts, it doesn't mean anything.Well, there you have it. I never though anything of it. Formal education has it's place but isn't the be-all end-all with me. I've worked with my hands all my life and you either got skills or you don't. I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I can wire your house. All I needs the material and the house.

High_Plains_Drifter
05-22-2018, 11:01 PM
Well, there you have it. I never though anything of it. Formal education has it's place but isn't the be-all end-all with me. I've worked with my hands all my life and you either got skills or you don't. I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I can wire your house. All I needs the material and the house.
Thing is, like me, I have a very analytical brain. I'm very good at figuring out problems that are electro/mechanically technical, but please don't ask me to paint your portrait or be a diplomatic people person. Aside from not being interest in the slightest about those types of things, I'm no good at them. The point is, people can excel at certain things and suck at others, people seem to have their nitch. So trying to put a specific number on their IQ can be, more or less, cheating them in certain areas and complimenting them in another. I think that if they're going to try and quantify the intelligence of someone, they're going to have to also devise a test that determines where the person's IQ could be higher, and/or lower. People aren't smart about everything, or dumb about everything straight across the board.

darin
05-23-2018, 01:26 AM
Where do you think you fall, percentage-wise, worldwide? I just saw a bell curve representing IQs.

My immediate family is in the top 1.2%, which I think was around 125-140.

I think most of this membership would be the same...

I think it would be impossible for most of us to be in the top 1.2%.

For the record, I get too bored to have ever finished an iq test; i have no idea. My Army GT score was 128 however - but that's more a test of what i'd learned more than how smart I am. GT is a composite of Word Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension and Arithmetic Reasoning.

Gunny
05-23-2018, 09:55 AM
Thing is, like me, I have a very analytical brain. I'm very good at figuring out problems that are electro/mechanically technical, but please don't ask me to paint your portrait or be a diplomatic people person. Aside from not being interest in the slightest about those types of things, I'm no good at them. The point is, people can excel at certain things and suck at others, people seem to have their nitch. So trying to put a specific number on their IQ can be, more or less, cheating them in certain areas and complimenting them in another. I think that if they're going to try and quantify the intelligence of someone, they're going to have to also devise a test that determines where the person's IQ could be higher, and/or lower. People aren't smart about everything, or dumb about everything straight across the board.

I can see ME painting someone's portrait :laugh2:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11424&stc=1

High_Plains_Drifter
05-23-2018, 10:00 AM
I can see ME painting someone's portrait :laugh2:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11424&stc=1
Hell man... THAT'S GOOD... :laugh:

Gunny
05-23-2018, 10:14 AM
I think it would be impossible for most of us to be in the top 1.2%.

For the record, I get too bored to have ever finished an iq test; i have no idea. My Army GT score was 128 however - but that's more a test of what i'd learned more than how smart I am. GT is a composite of Word Knowledge, Paragraph Comprehension and Arithmetic Reasoning.

Here's some book knowledge for you, D ... :)

The GCT is your overall ASVAB score. The different branches break the raw scores down and combine them differently. The Marine Corps used the GCT. Mine was 136 at the AFEES (no MEPS). The COrps doesn'tt rust anyone; especially, its own recruiters so you retake it once you get to boot camp. And a bunch of other tests. I nailed a 124 after no sleep, no smokes, having my head shaved and all my clothes taken away and crammed into some stiff, new cammies and boots that smelled like Cash Sales, and screamed at from minute 1 :)

If there's more than a 10 point disparity in Marine boot camp they sit you down and question you (trying to see if you had a "ringer" take it for you at the AFEES. I just told the Sgt that given the wonderful, warm welcome we got I'm surprised I scored even THAT high. He was an admin clerk. I'd never have said that to a Hat.

I know about the tests because my SSgt Ex used to give them at the high schools and at MCRD.

darin
05-23-2018, 11:25 AM
interesting. My asvab was given by probably GS05s at the MEPS while the recruiters, from all branches, waited elsewhere - then the results were given out to us when the recruiters got the info...but then our cases were given to career counsellors for each service.

Gunny
05-23-2018, 11:51 AM
interesting. My asvab was given by probably GS05s at the MEPS while the recruiters, from all branches, waited elsewhere - then the results were given out to us when the recruiters got the info...but then our cases were given to career counsellors for each service.

That is correct. Recruiters are not allowed anywhere near the test, the booklets, nor the applicants while it is being administered. If they think so much as one booklet has been compromised all of USMEPCOM will scratch the test and issue a whole new one (there are 4 versions of the test to preclude copying).

The ex worked for the MEPS (USMEPCOM) not the USMC. As the largest branch, the Army has administrative control of MEPCOM, but USMEPCOM falls under the DoD. It's a joint duty assignment. Military personnel assigned to MEPCOM are called "purple shirters" and if you get caught helping service counselors or recruiters you can kiss your career goodbye.

High_Plains_Drifter
05-23-2018, 01:10 PM
That is correct. Recruiters are not allowed anywhere near the test, the booklets, nor the applicants while it is being administered. If they think so much as one booklet has been compromised all of USMEPCOM will scratch the test and issue a whole new one (there are 4 versions of the test to preclude copying).

The ex worked for the MEPS (USMEPCOM) not the USMC. As the largest branch, the Army has administrative control of MEPCOM, but USMEPCOM falls under the DoD. It's a joint duty assignment. Military personnel assigned to MEPCOM are called "purple shirters" and if you get caught helping service counselors or recruiters you can kiss your career goodbye.
I would have enjoyed being a recruiter.

Gunny
05-23-2018, 01:26 PM
I would have enjoyed being a recruiter.Not this kid. Too much to chance ob recruiting duty. In the Marines, a "B" billet (recruiter/drill instructor or Marine Security Guard duty is almost a must for promotion, and even if not, it's a one-up on everyone else for it.

I made a preemptive strike and went on drill instructor duty. Too many horror stories in recruiting duty. If an applicant decides it ain't going, they will make up all kinds of shit and YOU have to prove you DIDN'T do it.

On drill instructor duty there are always lots of witnesses.

High_Plains_Drifter
05-23-2018, 01:36 PM
Not this kid. Too much to chance ob recruiting duty. In the Marines, a "B" billet (recruiter/drill instructor or Marine Security Guard duty is almost a must for promotion, and even if not, it's a one-up on everyone else for it.

I made a preemptive strike and went on drill instructor duty. Too many horror stories in recruiting duty. If an applicant decides it ain't going, they will make up all kinds of shit and YOU have to prove you DIDN'T do it.

On drill instructor duty there are always lots of witnesses.
Hmmm... well, they came around the AMU at Nellis AFB and asked if anyone wanted to be a recruiter but I was too short, I'd have had to either extend or reenlist. I should have. I reenlisted later anyway. Regardless of the perils, I think I'd have liked it... for awhile. Working on the jets on the flight line could be pretty brutal too.

Drummond
05-23-2018, 07:37 PM
Mine was tested when I was nine years old. It's physical age compared with mental age ... this is the explanation I recall being given. Nine years old .. mental age, then, of thirteen. IQ = 125.

aboutime
05-23-2018, 08:07 PM
I honestly have no idea what my IQ is, or might be. But then, what can I say about my intelligence when I learned to type in just 3 days, at Radioman School in San Diego. Typed 60 words a minute before I left. Then, went to MORSE CODE OPERATOR school in San Diego. Learned to TYPE as I listened to MORSE CODE accurately, at 22 words per minute to qualify.
Then, after entering the Fleet, aboard ship. I spent 9 weeks at TELETYPE REPAIR SCHOOL, at the Norfolk Naval Base. Teletype machines had over 3000 parts on just a Printer. Not including the keyboard, or the tape punch, and readers.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gwIhZwmHe2w/hqdefault.jpg
http://blcain.com/Photos/TTY/IMAG0101.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iC5RQNSSZH0/hqdefault.jpg
I was also, originally...a Signalman....Skivvy Waver. Operated Flashing Light (morse),
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Seaman_send_Morse_code_signals.jpg/250px-Seaman_send_Morse_code_signals.jpg
and Semaphore (hand flag signaling)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/navyreflectionphotos-togetherweserved/21759.jpg
Over less than a year. I became the Leading TTY repairman for all of the ships in the Persian Gulf during Operation Desert Storm...flew from ship to ship until I was injured during PT quals, and lost all feeling in my left side, head to toe.
So, whoever said "You can't teach old dogs new tricks" never walked in my shoes. And I still have no idea what my IQ might be...still able to type at 60 wpm, and have never forgotten Morse Code, Semaphore, Flashing Light, or Satellite Communications for the Navy.
https://fthmb.tqn.com/NFTWwDSy0t7uGcNamvr5I1ZFFEA=/400x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/satellite-5a3c2679b39d030037a12868.jpg

Russ
05-23-2018, 08:17 PM
I think it would be impossible for most of us to be in the top 1.2%.



Sure it's possible. This is a message board that attracts the top 1.2%. The rest of the bell curve joins those "other message boards". :cool:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-24-2018, 06:21 AM
My IQ TEST WAS GIVEN ME AT SCHOOL AT AGE 15. THAT WAS 1969. I scored highest in the entire school.
My teacher said, My score was that of a college graduate.
Do not put too much stock in IQ tests, as do not measure discipline and personal ambition.
Mine was to be, left the hell alone to chase the pretty gals, enjoy myself, fight, drink , gamble and raise hell.
I did not pursue any career in the rat race, thus never went out trying to make myself a millionaire and I was never ever willing to kiss ass to get along,keep a job or get a promotion.
Looking back now, I regret not making the extra money and much of the hell raising, but the rest was just the life I chose and I had one helluva time living it.- Tyr

pete311
05-24-2018, 07:46 AM
High IQ means you are good at taking IQ tests.

Black Diamond
05-24-2018, 07:48 AM
High IQ means you are good at taking IQ tests.
Yours must be low given the way you're pissing on the test.

pete311
05-24-2018, 08:42 AM
Yours must be low given the way you're pissing on the test.

I lol how much useless disdain you have for me. Such a waste of energy.

darin
05-24-2018, 08:50 AM
High IQ means you are good at taking IQ tests.

Exactly. They are not a measure of more-important things; EQ, for example. :)

Black Diamond
05-24-2018, 09:08 AM
I lol how much useless disdain you have for me. Such a waste of energy.
So is the mueller probe but who's counting.

Black Diamond
05-24-2018, 09:10 AM
Exactly. They are not a measure of more-important things; EQ, for example. :)
If you don't knock it off I am gonna tear your face off (smashes coffee cup)

darin
05-24-2018, 09:12 AM
easy there, seabass :D

pete311
05-24-2018, 10:13 AM
Exactly. They are not a measure of more-important things; EQ, for example. :)

Glad you brought it up. EQ is only now is getting traction. After all, what use is a "rain man" type savant if they can't function properly in society.

High_Plains_Drifter
05-24-2018, 04:11 PM
High IQ means you are good at taking IQ tests.
And if you get a noble peace prize for doing nothing, then it means your name is obama.

hjmick
05-24-2018, 04:17 PM
I think it would be impossible for most of us to be in the top 1.2%.


This is the Internet. We can be whatever we want to be...

hjmick
05-24-2018, 04:19 PM
interesting. My asvab was given by probably GS05s at the MEPS while the recruiters, from all branches, waited elsewhere - then the results were given out to us when the recruiters got the info...but then our cases were given to career counsellors for each service.


The ASVAB. I remember taking that...

aboutime
05-24-2018, 07:39 PM
I lol how much useless disdain you have for me. Such a waste of energy.

You are absolutely correct. You are a total waste of energy here, and you have earned all the disdain anyone could ever award you with in your miserable life.:laugh:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-25-2018, 08:15 AM
This is the Internet. We can be whatever we want to be...
Not if your moral compass is on track and you have a sense of honor and view lying to strangers to try to impress them, to be both childish and totally dishonorable.
I fully realize that millions have no problem with lying to impress others (considering it a career enhancer and perfectly ok) , but some of us were taught by both parents and grandparents it is childish , stupid and also dishonorable to one's family name...--Tyr

aboutime
05-25-2018, 07:38 PM
petey needs to get the annual pre-school award for being able to SPELL "IQ".

Have fun with this....
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/b8/3d/e0b83d39876bf9cb25e17287e1acf7e8.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTra7YWwU1QtvMGjJDqelzgDrOirrTDV Q71Avwv77B3xcAEkw5h1g

LongTermGuy
05-26-2018, 05:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkz6fubz4Vs