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jimnyc
08-06-2018, 11:18 PM
Just more folks that think it's "economically just" to take others money to redistribute, and in this case to use for abortions.

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Planned Parenthood Claims Forcing Taxpayers To Pay For Abortion Is 'Economic Justice'

Cutting off funds to Planned Parenthood, they say, is "state violence."

In a Twitter post made over the weekend, the always-subtle Planned Parenthood claimed that a proposed Trump Administration "gag rule" that would prohibit taxpayer funds from directly financing abortion services is "state violence," and that forcing taxpayers to foot the bill for abortion is just plain "economic justice."

The post, made Saturday, referenced a story on the virulently pro-abortion website, Rewire.net, and proclaimed, “Abortion is an economic justice issue, as @sikivuhutch puts its, ‘a vital pathway that affords women access to jobs, housing, education, and wealth equity when they’re in control of their bodies and destinies.’ #NoGagRule,”

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Apparently, it's "economically just" to provide women the option of killing their child, because children are burdensome. Without abortion, women are rendered absolutely incapable of achieving, well, anything.

The manifesto is part of a new push form Planned Parenthood, connecting abortion rights to the "intersectional" panoply of leftist causes, including income inequality, and by extension, democratic socialism.

Rest - https://www.dailywire.com/news/34117/planned-parenthood-claims-forcing-taxpayers-pay-emily-zanotti

Gunny
08-07-2018, 08:12 AM
What kind of violence is the abortion itself? Crushing an unborn human's skull and sucking it through a tube, then selling the body parts. I label few things evil. THAT is definitely at the top of the list.

Abbey Marie
08-07-2018, 10:16 AM
PP can feel free to offer these women their abortions gratis. If it is so crucial a right, why don’t they step up and forego those evil Capitalist profits and do the right thing?

Abortion is very big business. That is exactly what is behind this caterwauling.

LuLu
08-08-2018, 12:12 AM
You going to take care of the baby?
I hate PP. But the only thing you will get with illegal abortions is ill or dead women.

SassyLady
08-08-2018, 01:07 AM
You going to take care of the baby?
I hate PP. But the only thing you will get with illegal abortions is ill or dead women.

Pure bullshit propaganda! And you know it Lulu.

Abortions are still legal and available. Why should I have to pay for it?

CSM
08-08-2018, 05:54 AM
You going to take care of the baby?
I hate PP. But the only thing you will get with illegal abortions is ill or dead women.

Here is a thought.... if you don't want a baby, don't get pregnant. There are many ways of preventing pregnancy .... anything from "abstinence" (oh the horror!) to condoms and medications. Yeah, I know...using any of those methods requires a bit of self responsibility and our society is very much against any sense of self responsibility.

LuLu
08-08-2018, 07:33 AM
Here is a thought.... if you don't want a baby, don't get pregnant. There are many ways of preventing pregnancy .... anything from "abstinence" (oh the horror!) to condoms and medications. Yeah, I know...using any of those methods requires a bit of self responsibility and our society is very much against any sense of self responsibility.
That is a wonderful idea, but it will never happen. Therefore, I would rather women have safe abortions.

LuLu
08-08-2018, 07:37 AM
Pure bullshit propaganda! And you know it Lulu.

Abortions are still legal and available. Why should I have to pay for it?
But do you pay for them? I think there is something like two states that how their state insurance to cover abortions. I will have to look it up. I would also much rather pay for a safe abortion than the health costs after an illegal abortion.
The fetus’s life always seems to be more important than the woman’s.

CSM
08-08-2018, 07:45 AM
That is a wonderful idea, but it will never happen. Therefore, I would rather women have safe abortions.


LOL...you do realize that there was a time when "legal abortions" would never happen...and yet here we are.

CSM
08-08-2018, 07:52 AM
But do you pay for them? I think there is something like two states that how their state insurance to cover abortions. I will have to look it up. I would also much rather pay for a safe abortion than the health costs after an illegal abortion.
The fetus’s life always seems to be more important than the woman’s.

Nobody pays for the abortion? Health care professionals volunteer to perform the abortions and pharma companies donate medicines? Medical equipment manufacturers donate their products to abortion clinics? Oh, but insurance...right. A privatized way of taking money given by others to provide services to those (in this particular case) to those who lack self discipline and a sense of responsibility....

Don't get me wrong, I fully support providing aid to those in need. I diverge when those individuals "in need" make it a life style.

LuLu
08-08-2018, 08:59 AM
Nobody pays for the abortion? Health care professionals volunteer to perform the abortions and pharma companies donate medicines? Medical equipment manufacturers donate their products to abortion clinics? Oh, but insurance...right. A privatized way of taking money given by others to provide services to those (in this particular case) to those who lack self discipline and a sense of responsibility....

Don't get me wrong, I fully support providing aid to those in need. I diverge when those individuals "in need" make it a life style.
I don’t agree with most of what you said.
But I will say Planned Parenthood is just a lobbyist machine. To me, women should have more options and should be able to go through the process with their own doctor when possible. Of course, I hate Planned Parenthood but I am very much Pro Choice. Right now, they are pretty much all women have in regards to somewhat safe abortions.

CSM
08-08-2018, 09:18 AM
I don’t agree with most of what you said.
But I will say Planned Parenthood is just a lobbyist machine. To me, women should have more options and should be able to go through the process with their own doctor when possible. Of course, I hate Planned Parenthood but I am very much Pro Choice. Right now, they are pretty much all women have in regards to somewhat safe abortions.

Obviously you don't have to agree with what I posted. It is my opinion, not yours.

I am pointing out that legal abortions do not relieve anyone of personal responsibility for their actions. There are certainly exceptions (rape, child abuse, etc.). So at what point do pro abortionists draw the line? Nine months after getting pregnant, it is decided the baby is not wanted/desired, so abortion is fine? Why not 3, 10 or even 20 years after birth? Why do folks think abortion is the only preventative measure?

I do not understand (obviously) how a person can honestly believe that abortion is the desired course of action. I would rather see PP hand out condoms or "morning after pills" and offer free sterilization to both male and female (which can be reversible) than tout abortion as the primary resolution.

LuLu
08-08-2018, 11:38 AM
Obviously you don't have to agree with what I posted. It is my opinion, not yours.

I am pointing out that legal abortions do not relieve anyone of personal responsibility for their actions. There are certainly exceptions (rape, child abuse, etc.). So at what point do pro abortionists draw the line? Nine months after getting pregnant, it is decided the baby is not wanted/desired, so abortion is fine? Why not 3, 10 or even 20 years after birth? Why do folks think abortion is the only preventative measure?

I do not understand (obviously) how a person can honestly believe that abortion is the desired course of action. I would rather see PP hand out condoms or "morning after pills" and offer free sterilization to both male and female (which can be reversible) than tout abortion as the primary resolution.
Of course it doesn’t, i live with my choice every day. But I live with it not you.
And it is much safer to have an legal abortion than an illegal one. Most of the time.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-08-2018, 12:05 PM
You going to take care of the baby?
I hate PP. But the only thing you will get with illegal abortions is ill or dead women.

So you think that , (even were it true) is just cause to defend the reality of over 50 million babies having been aborted since abortion was made legal by SCOTUS??
DO TELL...... hmmmmmm. -Tyr

SassyLady
08-08-2018, 02:41 PM
But do you pay for them? I think there is something like two states that how their state insurance to cover abortions. I will have to look it up. I would also much rather pay for a safe abortion than the health costs after an illegal abortion.
The fetus’s life always seems to be more important than the woman’s.

If tax monies are given to PP, then yes I am paying for it.

Why is it so hard for people to understand personal responsibility? Responsibility to NOT get pregnant. Responsibility to raise child? Responsibility to pay for own abortion.

The fetus/baby's life is equally important. Neither life should have more weight. However, the fetus/baby is not able to fight for its right to not be murdered. You would think a compassionate adult woman would know that, Lulu.

SassyLady
08-08-2018, 02:43 PM
That is a wonderful idea, but it will never happen. Therefore, I would rather women have safe abortions.

Why is it never going to happen, Lulu? Because women are lazy? Is it really easier to get abortion than to use birth control?

SassyLady
08-08-2018, 02:47 PM
I don’t agree with most of what you said.
But I will say Planned Parenthood is just a lobbyist machine. To me, women should have more options and should be able to go through the process with their own doctor when possible. Of course, I hate Planned Parenthood but I am very much Pro Choice. Right now, they are pretty much all women have in regards to somewhat safe abortions.
All women, Lulu, also have right to use other means of birth control than abortions. They can "choose" to use birth control that doesn't end a life. Choosing abortion as birth control is basically a result of irresponsibility.

High_Plains_Drifter
08-08-2018, 04:30 PM
That is a wonderful idea, but it will never happen.
Why? Are you insinuating that people are too stupid and lack self control nowadays?

If I was black, I'd be rioting against PP, because it's a genocide machine against blacks. It's almost as if PP is a way to keep the black population down...

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