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Guernicaa
08-24-2007, 09:37 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/22/gw.teen.christians/index.html

Teen Christians campaign against pop culture

(CNN) -- At one point in Jared Hutchins' young life, the Beatles were a big problem.

"I had to stop listening to them for a while," said Hutchins, who lives in Cumming, Georgia, and plays the piano, guitar and harmonica. He said the group's world view "had a negative effect on me," and made him irritable and angry.

"God owns my life, not the Beatles," he said simply. Although Hutchins said he enjoys a wide range of music -- from Pink Floyd and Arcade Fire to Christian bands such as Hillsong United -- he said he has to be careful of what music he listens to, for the same reason he temporarily turned off the Beatles.

Hutchins, a 16-year-old graced with poise and thoughtfulness, is one of many teenagers who say that some part of popular culture, with its ubiquitous references to sex, drugs and violence, has harmed him.

Last year, Hutchins and his Christian youth group attended an Acquire the Fire rally in Atlanta, Georgia, he said. Acquire the Fire -- regional rallies held across the country -- and BattleCry -- the larger rallies held this year in only three cities -- are the products of the evangelical Christian organization Teen Mania. Go behind-the-scenes with CNN's Christiane Amanpour at a BattleCry event »

One part concert, one part Christian revival, the rallies seek to "stage a reverse revolution" against secular popular culture. They have the pull of headlining rock concerts, drawing thousands of people regardless of the region of the country, the month of year or the day of the week. The audiences are nearly always predominantly teenagers and young adults.

From 2006 to 2007, a total of 127,830 people attended the 34 Acquire the Fire rallies, and 71,414 people attended the three BattleCry events held in San Francisco, California; Detroit, Michigan; and Bristow, Virginia, according to Teen Mania. Watch flags, fireworks and teens at rally

For Hutchins, who said he struggled in his early adolescence to fit in and be cool before having a personal experience with God about four years ago, the organization's message is exactly right.

"We don't have to be branded by the culture, we are branded by God," he said. "Be who God created you to be."

But the glossy, glamorous appeal of popular culture too often obscures that path to God, Teen Mania followers say.

And so, Ron Luce, the 46-year-old founder of the organization, has waged a modern-day crusade against "purveyors of popular culture," whom he has condemned as "the enemy." More than two decades old, Teen Mania estimates it has reached more than 2 million teens with its message "of living completely for Christ."

The organization is sprawling. In addition to its live stadium rallies, there are BattleCry shirts and hats, mobile screen savers, books and a television program. There are international mission trips -- Hutchins attended one in Tijuana, Mexico, this summer. There is even a Teen Mania internship, a one-year program called the Honor Academy, based in Lindale, Texas.

In the live events, Luce couples the earnest appeal of a young father with a preacher's ability to mobilize a crowd. He weaves disturbing statistics about teenagers amid his gospel.

Today's teenagers are in crisis, he says.

"We're fighting for those who don't know they have a voice, that are being manipulated by our pop culture indulging in things that, really, they're not mature enough to be thinking about yet," Luce told CNN.

"Kids are hurting," he said. And of those who he feels inflict these moral wounds, Luce said, "We call them terrorists, virtue terrorists, that are destroying our kids."

"They're raping virgin teenage America on the sidewalk, and everybody's walking by and acting like everything's OK. And it's just not OK."

To some, Luce's rhetoric is off-putting, hateful and divisive. Opponents point to his views on homosexuality -- not "in God's plan" -- and abortion -- the "ending of a precious life" -- and say Luce is imposing conservative values on vulnerable teenagers. Explore Americans' views on religion

It is this criticism that Luce and his followers confronted head-on in March at BattleCry San Francisco.

There, in arguably the most liberal city in the United States, protesters, armed with megaphones and poster board signs, rallied against BattleCry on the steps of City Hall as the Christian teenagers circled and prayed in a demonstration of their own.

"Ron Luce is a liar!" one protester shouted. "Let me hear you say Christian fascist," another yelled.

Luce and the youths, some as young as 11, also raised their voices.

"God, I ask that as we do this BattleCry, Lord, that you would reveal yourself to the teenagers, God, here, God," Mindy Peterson, shouted. Peterson is a member of Teen Mania's Honor Academy. Afterward, Peterson railed against what she said was the protesters' mischaracterization of BattleCry.

"These people think that our war is against other people. They think that our war is against man. And our war isn't. Our war's against ... the pain in teenagers' hearts, like depression, alcoholism. Those things that -- that are, like, tearing our teenagers apart," she said.

While much milder in his terms, Hutchins agrees. "We're a generation that is kind of troubled," he said. Luce wants to "rescue the hearts of our generation," he added.

And of the critics' contention that the rallies, the organization, the message is neo-conservatism wrapped in Biblical verse? Hutchins smiles, nods patiently. "I don't go because I have a political agenda," he said, adding that his friends don't, either.

"Mostly, what we're concerned with is Jesus."




These kids are such losers. It's a proven fact that Christian kids are more likely to engage in strange behavior because of their craziness. There is no reason these freak shows should be having "campaigns against pop culture". If they don't like it, they don't have to get involved.

But as we see time and time again fundie Christians just can't help themselves and insist on trying to impose their craziness on normal people happily engaged in today’s culture.

Not to worry though. It's not like these kids are going to have any impact on people other than themselves when they end up in an asylum or even worse jail after they molest a kid or do other crazy born again shit.

HAHAHAHA the funniest part about this article is in the beginning when the kid said THE BEATLES (AHAHA!) were having a bad impact on him!!! Thats fucking hilarious!!! This kid really must be fucking insane!

Abbey Marie
08-24-2007, 09:44 AM
Yeah, those damn kids. How dare they have their own opinions and try to live a better life? It's sad to see the type of things that bother you.

stephanie
08-24-2007, 09:45 AM
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/beernpussy1.gif

Hagbard Celine
08-24-2007, 09:49 AM
What a bunch of squares. What these kids need is a good wedgie. And for their crackpot parents to stop coddling them.

JohnDoe
08-24-2007, 09:53 AM
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/beernpussy1.gif
Hahahahahaha! That cat is as fat as my cat! I did not think any Kitty girl could be as BIG and FAT as my cat!!!!

Cute video!

Nukeman
08-24-2007, 09:55 AM
I dont think I agree with you here!!!

Even though some teenagers may be troubled at least these are seeing what is causing their angst and attempting to do something about it


I will say that our media and clothing industry is way out of line when it comes to marketing for preteen and early teen girls and boys. I dont believe any preteen girl or early teen girl should have a "string bikini", non of them shoud have the words "jucy, sexy, etc... on their butts. The crop tops and see through clothing that is being marketed to these girls is rediculous.

If you had children of yoru own yo may view some of this a little differently. Being the father of 4 I see a lot of bad choices going on at the juniour high and high school levels.



These kids are such losers. It's a proven fact that Christian kids are more likely to engage in strange behavior because of their craziness. There is no reason these freak shows should be having "campaigns against pop culture". If they don't like it, they don't have to get involved.

Care to support this!!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes "popculture" needs to be put in its place please see what I posted above


But as we see time and time again fundie Christians just can't help themselves and insist on trying to impose their craziness on normal people happily engaged in today’s culture.

Where were they "forcing" anything on anyone??? I guess I missed that part where everyone was forced to be there.


Not to worry though. It's not like these kids are going to have any impact on people other than themselves when they end up in an asylum or even worse jail after they molest a kid or do other crazy born again shit.

I like this you dont have any preconcieved notions of Christians do you!!!! Were you touched inappropriatly by a Christian??? is this why you have this deep seeded hatred of them???


HAHAHAHA the funniest part about this article is in the beginning when the kid said THE BEATLES (AHAHA!) were having a bad impact on him!!! Thats fucking hilarious!!! This kid really must be fucking insane!

this kid told of something he wastrouble with and found what worked for him to solve it and you make fun of him. All of us have things that bother us and we need to find what works for us. Is your life so great you never have to think about what may be bothering you..

stephanie
08-24-2007, 09:57 AM
Hahahahahaha! That cat is as fat as my cat! I did not think any Kitty girl could be as BIG and FAT as my cat!!!!

Cute video!

I posted it because..
That's what I want to do...when certain people post such articles and then expect people to be obsessed with Christian hating as they are...

:laugh2:

hjmick
08-24-2007, 10:00 AM
Nuke, it's not worth the energy.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/hjmc3rd/270850-DoNotFeedTroll.jpg

Nukeman
08-24-2007, 10:01 AM
Nuke, it's not worth the energy.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/hjmc3rd/270850-DoNotFeedTroll.jpg
Ohh I know but sometime I just have to get a little off my chest with these dumb fu**s!!!!!!!!!!

Hagbard Celine
08-24-2007, 10:02 AM
I have a confession to make. The Andy Griffith show is giving me angst. That is why I have a strict anti-Andy Griffith policy. Whenever it comes on I turn the channel so that my faith won't be impeded. The same with that Enya devil music.

Guernicaa
08-24-2007, 10:15 AM
I will say that our media and clothing industry is way out of line when it comes to marketing for preteen and early teen girls and boys. I dont believe any preteen girl or early teen girl should have a "string bikini", non of them shoud have the words "jucy, sexy, etc... on their butts. The crop tops and see through clothing that is being marketed to these girls is rediculous.
Bull shit, nothings out of line in our culture. There’s nothing wrong with girls exploring their sexuality and wearing hot clothes.

http://www.abercrombie.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10901_357178_-1_13064_12203
If a girl wears that, its hot.


Care to support this!!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes "popculture" needs to be put in its place please see what I posted above
No it doesn’t. Christian kids are usually the ones who end up depressed when they’re older because they lack social skills and are so insecure that they can’t even dip themselves into culture.


Where were they "forcing" anything on anyone??? I guess I missed that part where everyone was forced to be there.
Everyone knows these losers want to try and “convert” other teenagers.


I like this you dont have any preconcieved notions of Christians do you!!!! Were you touched inappropriatly by a Christian??? is this why you have this deep seeded hatred of them???
Hahahahha no I didn’t go to Church long enough.


this kid told of something he wastrouble with and found what worked for him to solve it and you make fun of him. All of us have things that bother us and we need to find what works for us. Is your life so great you never have to think about what may be bothering you..
…The Beatles….
……Are you fucking serious?

5stringJeff
08-24-2007, 10:16 AM
These kids are such losers. It's a proven fact that Christian kids are more likely to engage in strange behavior because of their craziness.

:link:


There is no reason these freak shows should be having "campaigns against pop culture". If they don't like it, they don't have to get involved.

But as we see time and time again fundie Christians just can't help themselves and insist on trying to impose their craziness on normal people happily engaged in today’s culture.

Why make such a big deal that teens are rejecting mainstream pop culture? Can't handle the competition?

Hagbard Celine
08-24-2007, 10:30 AM
:link:



Why make such a big deal that teens are rejecting mainstream pop culture? Can't handle the competition?

So now Obama08 is in charge of pop culture its fight against Christianity for the hearts and minds of America's youth? :lol:

It's the battle between good and evil: Pop Culture vs. Christianity. Don't miss the first fight in this battle royale; Justin Timberlake vs. Pope Gremlin-looking German III. Tonight on Showtime.

PostmodernProphet
08-24-2007, 10:57 AM
But as we see time and time again fundie Christians just can't help themselves and insist on trying to impose their craziness on normal people happily engaged in today’s culture.

just out of curiosity, isn't your post doing exactly that?......for some reason you felt compelled to speak out against these teens and belittle what they have chosen to do......why does it bother you if they commit themselves to being unaffected by popular culture.....why do you feel the need to attack them for it?

darin
08-24-2007, 11:00 AM
May not be the case in this thread, but I wonder how many SUPPORTERS these teens would have on this board had they decided to proclaim their homosexuality? How BRAVE of them, right? :-/

Hagbard Celine
08-24-2007, 11:10 AM
May not be the case in this thread, but I wonder how many SUPPORTERS these teens would have on this board had they decided to proclaim their homosexuality? How BRAVE of them, right? :-/

I would just like to take this opportunity to speak out against what I see as a vile canker sore on the face of America: Apple pie. It's so good it must be sinful.

hjmick
08-24-2007, 11:13 AM
I would just like to take this opportunity to speak out against what I see as a vile canker sore on the face of America: Apple pie. It's so good it must be sinful.

Don't forget moms, hot dogs, and baseball.

darin
08-24-2007, 11:14 AM
So is beer. And boobies.

Abbey Marie
08-24-2007, 11:24 AM
And why are all these teenagers whinneying anyway? Are they auditioning for a part in Equus?

Nukeman
08-24-2007, 11:37 AM
Bull shit, nothings out of line in our culture. There’s nothing wrong with girls exploring their sexuality and wearing hot clothes.?
So what our saying is tht your okay with the exploitation of minor children. You know that little word they use for people like you PEDOPHILE. What part of my previous post where I state pre-teen and early teen did you fail to comprehend.. By alowing this type of exploitation your doing exactly what you accuse these kids of doing, your forcing your lack of values and moores upon them when they dont want to see it.

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url]http://www.abercrombie.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10901_357178_-1_13064_12203[/url]
If a girl wears that, its hot.

Only if she is of legal age!! Not if its my daughter!! Once again what is sexy about a 11,12,13,14,15,16... year old girl wearing that. "EXPLOITATION"


No it doesn’t. Christian kids are usually the ones who end up depressed when they’re older because they lack social skills and are so insecure that they can’t even dip themselves into culture.
Please supply proof of this would you and I dont want your anecdotal BS I would like studies to back your claim!!

Everyone knows these losers want to try and “convert” other teenagers.
Really!!! "everyone knows". Did they try to convert you?? If not than you have no grounds to state this!!! Your attempting to draw them away from their beliefs by criticizing them and belittling them and forcing your idea of pop culture on them.

Hahahahha no I didn’t go to Church long enough.
That my friend is probably our biggest problem. You dont have a strong moral base to build upon so you intern think that "popular culture" is just fine and great and you can do whatever you want.

You really need to GROW UP and realize your not the only person in the world that has ideas about how their own life should be led.


Ohhh hey obama............:fu:.............

Hagbard Celine
08-24-2007, 11:41 AM
Don't forget moms, hot dogs, and baseball.

Hotdogs especially. A more obvious reference to the phallus I've never seen.

avatar4321
08-24-2007, 12:43 PM
What a bunch of squares. What these kids need is a good wedgie. And for their crackpot parents to stop coddling them.

im sure they think that these adults from 20-40 also need to have their crackpot parents stop coddling them and start looking at the real world.

avatar4321
08-24-2007, 12:47 PM
May not be the case in this thread, but I wonder how many SUPPORTERS these teens would have on this board had they decided to proclaim their homosexuality? How BRAVE of them, right? :-/

dont you understand? having sex with completely strangers of the same sex is far more responsible than being honest, caring about others, and working hard in the name of Christ.

Black Lance
08-24-2007, 03:12 PM
These kids are such losers. It's a proven fact that Christian kids are more likely to engage in strange behavior because of their craziness.


Prove it then.

Hagbard Celine
08-24-2007, 03:21 PM
Prove it then.

"Craziness" speaks for itself.

Pale Rider
08-24-2007, 03:29 PM
I'm pretty certain, the obama article could easily take first place for the biggest load of CRAP ever posted on this board since it's inception.

"Those whinny Christian kids," all the while "whining about the Christian kids." If you are ever in doubt of what a hypocrite is, just listen to a liberal.

Hagbard Celine
08-24-2007, 03:30 PM
im sure they think that these adults from 20-40 also need to have their crackpot parents stop coddling them and start looking at the real world.

Which adults from 20 to 40 avatar? :dance:

avatar4321
08-24-2007, 04:52 PM
These kids are such losers. It's a proven fact that Christian kids are more likely to engage in strange behavior because of their craziness. There is no reason these freak shows should be having "campaigns against pop culture". If they don't like it, they don't have to get involved.


Cause abstinence is strange and freaky behavior! Kids should be peeing in the mouths of other kids and wiping feces on each other!

No1tovote4
08-24-2007, 10:11 PM
And why are all these teenagers whinneying anyway? Are they auditioning for a part in Equus?

Sung to the tune of Onward Christian Soldiers!...

Whinney Christian T-e-en-agers,
Just like a fat horse!
With that trail horse Beezer, limping on before...
Tex the 70s trail master, has a big afro!

Chorus (X2)
Whinney, Christian Teenagers, Just like a fat horse!
That that trail horse Beezer, limping on before

.....

(This was the first thing I thought of when I read the thread title... sometimes spelling really does matter.)

gabosaurus
08-24-2007, 10:53 PM
Everyone has the right to their own opinion. If these kids want to listen to Christian music, let them do so. I love The Beatles as much as anyone. But it does not bother me that some do not.

I am a Christian. I listen to heavy metal. Musicians do not dictate my beliefs. They only provide me with entertainment.

Abbey Marie
08-24-2007, 11:05 PM
Sung to the tune of Onward Christian Soldiers!...

Whinney Christian T-e-en-agers,
Just like a fat horse!
With that trail horse Beezer, limping on before...
Tex the 70s trail master, has a big afro!

Chorus (X2)
Whinney, Christian Teenagers, Just like a fat horse!
That that trail horse Beezer, limping on before

.....

(This was the first thing I thought of when I read the thread title... sometimes spelling really does matter.)


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