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jimnyc
11-17-2018, 05:22 PM
Ok, so there is that longshot that this is ALL about bipartisanship and he truly feels he can get more work done with Nancy at the helm. but really?

And if there is another motive, WHAT is that other motive?

I just can't figure out why his preference is with her and not someone else, or anyone else. They had some meetings in the past, with 'ol Chucky... perhaps promises were made?

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Trump Endorses Pelosi: I Will Help Nancy Pelosi if She Needs Some Votes. I will Perform a Wonderful Service For Her

Trump Endorses Pelosi — Offers his Assistance in Her Quest for Speakership

President Trump today told reporters he will help Nancy Pelosi get the votes for speaker if she needed the votes he will help her out.

President Trump: I will help Nancy Pelosi if she needs some votes. I will perform a wonderful service for her. I like her. Can you believe it? I mean I like Nancy Pelosi. She’s tough and smart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4oqJqs9RX4

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/trump-endorses-pelosi-i-will-will-help-nancy-pelosi-if-she-needs-some-votes-i-will-perform-a-wonderful-service-for-her-video/

Kathianne
11-17-2018, 05:52 PM
Jim, I think in many ways the President is pretty well aligned with the status quo Democrats. Until 2010, what he gave to politics was mostly Democrats. From 2010 on, he gave much more in political donations overall, and those were to Republicans.

Not quite sure what it all means, but the Democrats didn't make some huge changes in 2010, those started well before then.

High_Plains_Drifter
11-17-2018, 06:04 PM
President Trump is truly a strategist. He knows that there's dissension among the democrats with Pelosi continuing her speakership. What more could he ask for? Keep them mongrels fighting.

jimnyc
11-17-2018, 06:20 PM
Jim, I think in many ways the President is pretty well aligned with the status quo Democrats. Until 2010, what he gave to politics was mostly Democrats. From 2010 on, he gave much more in political donations overall, and those were to Republicans.

Not quite sure what it all means, but the Democrats didn't make some huge changes in 2010, those started well before then.

I think, for whatever weird reason, he has some sort of working relationship and respect for Pelosi. Don't ask me why. I certainly don't see his agendas and what not as Dem, but I can easily see him more 'workable' with the Dems based on history.

In a perfect world, it would all be on the up and up, they will work with one another, and many things will get accomplished as a result. Imagine that? :laugh: One can hope!!

aboutime
11-17-2018, 06:38 PM
Doesn't anyone recognize what the Prez is actually doing?

He has been telling EVERYBODY, since he was elected. He HOPES Nancy becomes Speaker again. Just like he has been saying..."I hope Hillary Runs again!"

He's not really as dumb, or uninformed as all of the NEVER-TRUMPER'S and Dems want us to think he is.

"THE ART OF THE DEAL" is how he works it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm29Kj8LOD0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv5oUxVM1i8&t=197s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6YWM30gYyw

Gunny
11-17-2018, 07:21 PM
Do republicans have enough votes to block anything the Dems in the House do? THAT is all that really matters. We already know the Speaker is going to be a Dem, regardless.

As far as TRump endorsing her goes, who freakin' knows? I disagree he is some master strategist, but he's still pretty good. An endorsement from Trump could be the Mafia kiss of death for a Dem :laugh: Or, the divisive old battleaxe screwball gets the job and divides the House Dems.

I just don't see it as a "give a shit" moment and knowing Trump, he's not up to anything good where Dems are concerned.

Black Diamond
11-17-2018, 07:38 PM
The left wing cooks will say he did it to avoid articles of impeachment.

Gunny
11-17-2018, 08:25 PM
The left wing cooks will say he did it to avoid articles of impeachment.Honestly, and I could be wrong, but I don't see Articles of Impeachment getting any serious traction even in the House. I think even the ones who aren't real bright and would like to vote for it are going to worry about their careers first.

Isn't that how it's done in Congress? The only real bipartisanship that exists. Well, and a pay raise for Congress.

Black Diamond
11-17-2018, 08:56 PM
Honestly, and I could be wrong, but I don't see Articles of Impeachment getting any serious traction even in the House. I think even the ones who aren't real bright and would like to vote for it are going to worry about their careers first.

Isn't that how it's done in Congress? The only real bipartisanship that exists. Well, and a pay raise for Congress.

I've thought of this the last couple weeks. The left was blood thirsty in 2006 when the dems took the houses. First thing out of Pelosis mouth when she took the gavel? impeachment is off the table. But the leftist wackos have been predicting Donald's downfall for two years now.

Gunny
11-17-2018, 09:02 PM
I've thought of this the last couple weeks. The left was blood thirsty in 2006 when the dems took the houses. First thing out of Pelosis mouth when she took the gavel? impeachment is off the table. But the leftist wackos have been predicting Donald's downfall for two years now.I know this is hoping for a lot, but even some Dems are semi-reasonable even it it's solely a means of self-preservation. First thing they have to look at:

WHAT are they going to impeach him for? "I hate you" isn't an impeachable offense as far as I know. They have nothing on him. They haven't even been able to get the shit they've made up to stick.

The left never ceases to amaze me, but if this was the right, I'd see it as career suicide to even try it. I would say most people just don't like over-the-top whacko's but in the left's case, I wouldn't bet on that one anymore.

Black Diamond
11-17-2018, 09:51 PM
I know this is hoping for a lot, but even some Dems are semi-reasonable even it it's solely a means of self-preservation. First thing they have to look at:

WHAT are they going to impeach him for? "I hate you" isn't an impeachable offense as far as I know. They have nothing on him. They haven't even been able to get the shit they've made up to stick.

The left never ceases to amaze me, but if this was the right, I'd see it as career suicide to even try it. I would say most people just don't like over-the-top whacko's but in the left's case, I wouldn't bet on that one anymore.
One thing that does make me wonder. Who was the ass hat in congress who forced an impeachment vote a year or so ago?

LongTermGuy
11-17-2018, 10:08 PM
President Trump is truly a strategist. He knows that there's dissension among the democrats with Pelosi continuing her speaker-ship. What more could he ask for? Keep them mongrels fighting.


Perfect!....Agree This...^^^

Ignore the Never Trumpers...They will Never..."EVA" Get it....

Gunny
11-17-2018, 10:42 PM
One thing that does make me wonder. Who was the ass hat in congress who forced an impeachment vote a year or so ago?I recall what you are talking about but not who specifically. Some no-name. It was shot down pretty quickly though.

Again, if they're even going to try they have to come up with a reason first. And putting trying to preserve my career in politics first like all good Dems, a legitimate one that will stick before I'd put my name on it.

Then again, there ARE some REALLY kooky Dems out there, and as bad or worse, the people that put them in office.

Elessar
11-17-2018, 10:51 PM
Honestly, and I could be wrong, but I don't see Articles of Impeachment getting any serious traction even in the House. I think even the ones who aren't real bright and would like to vote for it are going to worry about their careers first.

Isn't that how it's done in Congress? The only real bipartisanship that exists. Well, and a pay raise for Congress.

Articles for impeachment in this case is a fools errand.

There is no basis, no open proof. Dems are blowing smoke up their own asses.

Elessar
11-17-2018, 10:52 PM
One thing that does make me wonder. Who was the ass hat in congress who forced an impeachment vote a year or so ago?

Maxine Waters as I recall. The Day Trump was sworn in.

aboutime
11-17-2018, 10:56 PM
Do republicans have enough votes to block anything the Dems in the House do? THAT is all that really matters. We already know the Speaker is going to be a Dem, regardless.

As far as TRump endorsing her goes, who freakin' knows? I disagree he is some master strategist, but he's still pretty good. An endorsement from Trump could be the Mafia kiss of death for a Dem :laugh: Or, the divisive old battleaxe screwball gets the job and divides the House Dems.

I just don't see it as a "give a shit" moment and knowing Trump, he's not up to anything good where Dems are concerned.
Democrat Representative AL GREENE is the one who wanted to charge Trump.
https://litigation.findlaw.com/legal-system/presidential-impeachment-the-legal-standard-and-procedure.html

If the house tries to Impeach Trump. The Senate acts as the Jury. The Majority is now Republican. And, the Judge who oversee's the so-called Trial, in the Senate. Will be CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS of the Supreme Court.
Besides. Trump has not broken any of the rules the Dems insist he has. And, if they make up some kind of charges. The FINAL decision will come from Chief Justice Roberts.
All this will do is slow down everything in Washington.

Gunny
11-17-2018, 11:10 PM
Democrat Representative AL GREENE is the one who wanted to charge Trump.
https://litigation.findlaw.com/legal-system/presidential-impeachment-the-legal-standard-and-procedure.html

If the house tries to Impeach Trump. The Senate acts as the Jury. The Majority is now Republican. And, the Judge who oversee's the so-called Trial, in the Senate. Will be CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS of the Supreme Court.
Besides. Trump has not broken any of the rules the Dems insist he has. And, if they make up some kind of charges. The FINAL decision will come from Chief Justice Roberts.
All this will do is slow down everything in Washington.The problem is ... slowing everything down in Washington seems to be the Dem gameplan. Their whole plan from go has appeared to me to be to wait out Trump's tour, or tie things up in court that will be there still long after he is gone.

Black Diamond
11-17-2018, 11:28 PM
Democrat Representative AL GREENE is the one who wanted to charge Trump.
https://litigation.findlaw.com/legal-system/presidential-impeachment-the-legal-standard-and-procedure.html

If the house tries to Impeach Trump. The Senate acts as the Jury. The Majority is now Republican. And, the Judge who oversee's the so-called Trial, in the Senate. Will be CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS of the Supreme Court.
Besides. Trump has not broken any of the rules the Dems insist he has. And, if they make up some kind of charges. The FINAL decision will come from Chief Justice Roberts.
All this will do is slow down everything in Washington.

Yes. That's the ass hat. Thank you.

Gunny
11-17-2018, 11:36 PM
Yes. That's the ass hat. Thank you.Ain't he like a :blsmile: whose hairline starts at his eyebrows?

Black Diamond
11-17-2018, 11:57 PM
Ain't he like a :blsmile: whose hairline starts at his eyebrows?

Yeah. Ugly mug. Lol