Brazil's nondiscriminatory approach to terrorism

[tailfins]

Having listened to the topic extensively, the approach is as follows: If you commit or take action consistent with committing terrorism, you've thrown away any expectation of being treated like a human being. The motivation is inconsequential. Irrespective if you do it to promote a religion, advance Communism, expand your drug cartel, secure extra turf for your gang or "save" the environment. Brazil intends to fight terrorism without prejudice. Thousands of surveillance cameras and lethal drones are being ordered for the city of Rio de Janeiro so that gang members can be killed without risk to honest police officers.

The below story explains how the drones will likely come from Israel.

https://www.sociedademilitar.com.br/wp/2018/12/drones-armados-governador-eleito-viaja-para-israel.html


Drones ARMADOS – Governador eleito viaja para ISRAEL para conhecer fábrica

[Noir]

Thousands of surveillance cameras and lethal drones are being ordered for the city of Rio de Janeiro

A great solution - let’s have constant surveillance and killing drones in every city of the world by 2025.
Dare to dream 🙃

[Drummond]

A great solution - let’s have constant surveillance and killing drones in every city of the world by 2025.
Dare to dream ��

Not totally sure about the methodology Brazil is adopting (but I'm less sure I can suggest anything better !!) ... but, I definitely like their reasoning. I've long since said that a terrorist can't be regarded as human. So to adopt measures which are appropriate for NON human entities (a sort of 'pest control' approach) seems no less than eminently reasonable.

[Noir]

Not totally sure about the methodology Brazil is adopting (but I'm less sure I can suggest anything better !!) ... but, I definitely like their reasoning. I've long since said that a terrorist can't be regarded as human. So to adopt measures which are appropriate for NON human entities (a sort of 'pest control' approach) seems no less than eminently reasonable.

Hopefully the U.K. government will soon be deploying killing drones on the streets of all our cities to kill people we consider “non-human entities” yeah?

[tailfins]

Hopefully the U.K. government will soon be deploying killing drones on the streets of all our cities to kill people we consider “non-human entities” yeah?

There's a key difference. The Brazilian people openly voted for a government that campaigned on bringing back aspects of the 1964-1985 successful military dictatorship. Bolsonaro has staffed his government with an abundance of retired military. 75% approve. See below:


Bolsonaro está no caminho certo para 75% dos brasileiros, aponta CNI/Ibope
Fonte: Último Segundo - iG (https://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/politica/2018-12-13/ibope-jair-bolsonaro-avaliacao.html) @ https://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/politica/2018-12-13/ibope-jair-bolsonaro-avaliacao.html

[Drummond]

Hopefully the U.K. government will soon be deploying killing drones on the streets of all our cities to kill people we consider “non-human entities” yeah?

Will they start with Jeremy Corbyn ?? Heyy ... I'm warming to the idea ... :rofl1::rofl1:

[Noir]

There's a key difference. The Brazilian people openly voted for a government that campaigned on bringing back aspects of the 1964-1985 successful military dictatorship. Bolsonaro has staffed his government with an abundance of retired military. 75% approve. See below:

And if people are cheering and clapping for a military dictatorship who are we to judge that that’s not the best form over governance...

[Abbey Marie]

A very scary thought, imo. Just the invasion of everyone’s privacy alone is a deal-breaker.

Well, at least when the inevitable lethal “mistakes” are made by those drones, no one can claim it was racially motivated. Or could they?

[tailfins]

A very scary thought, imo. Just the invasion of everyone’s privacy alone is a deal-breaker.

Well, at least when the inevitable lethal “mistakes” are made by those drones, no one can claim it was racially motivated. Or could they?

As long as the racial motivation is effective, I don't think the voters will mind. It's understood that extrajudicial killings are a necessary evil to make the streets safe. If in a given favela, most of the gang bangers are black, it would make sense to target black residents. However, racism for racism's sake won't fly.

[Abbey Marie]

As long as the racial motivation is effective, I don't think the voters will mind. It's understood that extrajudicial killings are a necessary evil to make the streets safe. If in a given favela, most of the gang bangers are black, it would make sense to target black residents. However, racism for racism's sake won't fly.

I will agree that we in the United States probably have no idea how bad things can get with gangs, in a place like Rio.

[Drummond]

And if people are cheering and clapping for a military dictatorship who are we to judge that that’s not the best form over governance...

... well ... it is THEIR country, not OURS.

By what right would another power invade, just purely and simply because they 'disapprove' of the nature of the native Government, and stamp out the local population's wishes ?

Isn't that just another form of dictatorship ?

So, many might disapprove. Ultimately, that is just their problem. It shouldn't be anybody else's.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Hopefully the U.K. government will soon be deploying killing drones on the streets of all our cities to kill people we consider “non-human entities” yeah?
Would you rather terrorists roam free, unimpeded, to kill you?

[Noir]

... well ... it is THEIR country, not OURS.

By what right would another power invade, just purely and simply because they 'disapprove' of the nature of the native Government, and stamp out the local population's wishes ?

Isn't that just another form of dictatorship ?

So, many might disapprove. Ultimately, that is just their problem. It shouldn't be anybody else's.

Who said anything about invading?

[tailfins]

I will agree that we in the United States probably have no idea how bad things can get with gangs, in a place like Rio.

Yet, except when I'm earning money, I would rather deal with and adapt to the risk of the violence than with the cranky, ill-tempered society we have here in the USA. I can get what I need from toxic people when I have to, but it's so life is so much better around festive, happy people.

I would take Rio over any US city, any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[tailfins]

... well ... it is THEIR country, not OURS.

By what right would another power invade, just purely and simply because they 'disapprove' of the nature of the native Government, and stamp out the local population's wishes ?

Isn't that just another form of dictatorship ?

So, many might disapprove. Ultimately, that is just their problem. It shouldn't be anybody else's.

Again, Drummond, you are spot-on. If Hillary were in the White House, Bolsonaro would get the same treatment that South Africa's FW DeKlerk got. Pressure would be brought to bear to power-share with the defeated Marxists.

[jimnyc]

Most modern countries are already filled with all kinds of cameras on almost every corner for various reasons, both private and public. We also know that facial recognition software is being used widely. --- Harness that technology to 'seek out' terrorists and others on 'wanted' lists and instantly pass off the information. And if possible, once a wanted target is locked on, use the software to follow the target.

Use the amount of force necessary depending on the target. If a known terrorist, treat as armed and deadly and shoot to kill.

Such software is already being used at large events, like concerts and such.