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Abbey Marie
03-21-2019, 12:41 PM
I just heard that Biden, whom I thought of as relatively moderate, has jumped on the radical left train. Obviously planning to run, he has stated that he is more progressive than the current candidates. One might say he is dog-whistling that he is in favor of Socialism. Lovely.

And Gillibrand just said she is in favor of Social Security benefits for illegals.

Then there’s the worst part: One of these misguidededly dangerous candidates could nominate several ultra-liberal justices to the USSC, who will no doubt drive our Constitution into the ground.

Given this, I’m wondering if our never-Trumper folks will still reject Trump in the election.

jimnyc
03-21-2019, 12:53 PM
Given this, I’m wondering if our never-Trumper folks will still reject Trump in the election.

Yup, been posting about all this scary stuff lately. Hell, I'd like to think that even moderate liberals and others on the left wouldn't vote for this. But...

I think it's insanity and I hope others on the right feel the same. I know many do. I would sure hope that even those against Trump wouldn't support this crap. Would they come out so against that they would vote for Trump to ensure it can't happen?

I'm afraid of the answer, but I'm confident that it won't make much difference.

And yeah, while I thought for sure these things will make him win in a landslide, I remind myself of the results in 2016. I can't see many reasons why those on the left haven't made their decision already and will vote for whoever runs on that side, no matter who it is. So I no longer see this as a easy win. In fact, with the media against him more than ever, the new congress determined to open endless investigations into crap, and the endless declared idiots on that side offering more and more and more freebie type stuff to the masses.

Elessar
03-21-2019, 05:33 PM
Abject stupidity to pay illegals Social Security when thy have not put a frikkin' dime into
an account.

I've been paying into it since I was 14 years old - 50 years!

As I said before, might as well open up citizen's bank accounts to freely support illegals.

Madness!

Gunny
03-21-2019, 05:37 PM
Yup, been posting about all this scary stuff lately. Hell, I'd like to think that even moderate liberals and others on the left wouldn't vote for this. But...

I think it's insanity and I hope others on the right feel the same. I know many do. I would sure hope that even those against Trump wouldn't support this crap. Would they come out so against that they would vote for Trump to ensure it can't happen?

I'm afraid of the answer, but I'm confident that it won't make much difference.

And yeah, while I thought for sure these things will make him win in a landslide, I remind myself of the results in 2016. I can't see many reasons why those on the left haven't made their decision already and will vote for whoever runs on that side, no matter who it is. So I no longer see this as a easy win. In fact, with the media against him more than ever, the new congress determined to open endless investigations into crap, and the endless declared idiots on that side offering more and more and more freebie type stuff to the masses.I'm surprised he hasn't been nailed for something trivial. Either he's never done anything illegal or he's a criminal mastermind that knows how to CYA :laugh:

SassyLady
03-25-2019, 11:41 PM
Abject stupidity to pay illegals Social Security when thy have not put a frikkin' dime into
an account.

I've been paying into it since I was 14 years old - 50 years!

As I said before, might as well open up citizen's bank accounts to freely support illegals.

Madness!
While I don't want illegals collecting any type of benefits, they do pay into Social Security if they are paid legally. And, employers match that deduction.