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jimnyc
05-01-2019, 04:14 PM
Mueller ran his little operation for 2 years. Everyone on the left nearly had an orgasm, especially Pete, whenever anything was found, even if it was stuff found long before Trump on things that had nothing to do with him or his campaign. But that was Mueller's job we were told, to follow the path to whatever it leads to - and we were to expect charges against the guilty, and of course scolded when we pointed out the many endless times he went down holes that had absolutely nothing to do with Russian collusion or Trump in any way. But the law is the law, and if Mueller found someone broke it, then charged they got. And we were warned long ahead of time, from Pete and many other liberals, and the democrats themselves of course, that we were to all accept whatever charges he may come up with.
He delivered his shit sandwich and knew damn well he had nothing on Trump. Then the next plan is to deliver this sandwich, and then complain when the obvious happens, that no other charges come forth beyond what Mueller himself delivered. Had Mueller thought there was a case, he could have and should have brought charges forth. He didn't and now it's game time again. Well, game time is over. No charges. Go ahead and play the little games and let America watch. Then hopefully reach and run with impeachment charges, knowing America is watching and that passing senate is a pipe dream. But I say go ahead and go for it!! That ought to help the dems perfectly right up until election day in 2020. Once again, ignore away, and then pop into an orgasmic dream and play gotcha when one thinks they have something.
I say let them bite on it long and hard. Run away with that as the leading argument into 2020 along with socialism and the world ending in 11 3/4 years now!!
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Barr blames Mueller for not reaching conclusion on charging president
Attorney General William Barr criticized Robert Mueller on Wednesday for failing to exercise his “responsibility” as a prosecutor to decide whether President Trump violated the law by obstructing the Russia investigation.
“Was it the special counsel’s responsibility to make a charging decision?” Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, asked Barr at a contentious hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
“I think the Deputy Attorney General [Rod Rosenstein] and I thought it was,” Barr replied. He then suggested Mueller had no authority to even investigate the president for obstruction — using the powers of the grand jury — if he wasn’t prepared to charge him.
“If he wasn’t going to go down the path of making a traditional prosecutive decision, he shouldn’t have investigated” acts of alleged obstruction, Barr said.
When Mueller, citing a Justice Department policy against prosecuting a sitting president, failed to make a decision about whether to bring charges, Barr did his own analysis and declined to bring an indictment against Trump.
Barr’s comments were surprising in light of his long relationship with Mueller, dating back to the days he was attorney general under President George H.W. Bush and Mueller served under him as the chief of the criminal division.
But Barr has come under intense fire over his handling of the special counsel report, with top Democrats calling for his resignation or impeachment, after reports surfaced of a letter by Mueller to Barr disagreeing with the attorney general’s public statements about the report. The letter said Barr’s four-page summary, which appeared to clear the president of all wrongdoing, “did not fully capture the context, nature and substance of this Office’s work and conclusions.” The letter was sent on March 27, just three days after Barr released his summary on Sunday, March 24.
Rest - https://news.yahoo.com/barr-blames-mueller-for-not-reaching-conclusion-on-charging-president-174428571.html
jimnyc
05-01-2019, 04:34 PM
So here we are once again. Accusations leveled against Barr this time, with various sources, none being direct. Nowhere among their LIES do I see the actual words of Mueller, except here of course in the article I am posting.
And yet someone jumps on the words of a democrat and runs with it as gospel - AGAINAIANIANAINAINAIANIANAIN!!!!! How many times do people do this kind of shit before they learn their lesson?
Yeah, yeah, I know pete311 - let it play out right? Ok, I will. Just like you say about everything else and then DISAPPEAR when it's found you're wrong again for like the 12,135th time.
Anonymous sources, sources tell us - anything other than direct quotes and direct facts - and GULP, it's swallowed every single time.
And the democrats that keep on pushing this over and over and over - they have to be the stupidest people alive, truly.
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Don't Believe the Headlines: Mueller Said Barr Memo Was Accurate
The internet is currently buzzing over allegations that Attorney General William Barr mischaracterized the Mueller report from none other than Robert Mueller himself. Here’s a selection of sources and their headlines:
---Washington Post: Mueller complained that Barr’s letter did not capture ‘context’ of Trump probe
---USA Today: Robert Mueller objected to AG William Barr's initial summary clearing President Trump of obstruction
---CNN: Mueller expressed misgivings to Barr about 4-page letter
---HuffPost: Robert Mueller Told William Barr He Mischaracterized His Findings: Report
These headlines all suggest some sinister attempt by Attorney General Barr to mislead the public about the Mueller report in his four-page memo on the report's findings. But, when you actually read beyond the headlines you’ll discover that the media is doing all the misleading here. This comes from CNN’s story:
Later, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone and while Mueller didn't think Barr's letter was inaccurate, the special counsel believed his report was more nuanced on the obstruction of justice issue, according to Justice Department officials. Mueller was frustrated by media coverage, and wanted more of the report to come out, those officials told CNN.
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Justice Department spokesperson Kerri Kupec said in a statement Tuesday that Mueller did not tell Barr that anything in the letter was factually wrong.
"In a cordial and professional conversation, the Special Counsel emphasized that nothing in the Attorney General's March 24 letter was inaccurate or misleading. But, he expressed frustration over the lack of context and the resulting media coverage regarding the Special Counsel's obstruction analysis," Kupec said.
The Washington Post buried the same thing as well:
A day after the letter was sent, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone for about 15 minutes, according to law enforcement officials.
In that call, Mueller said he was concerned that news coverage of the obstruction investigation was misguided and creating public misunderstandings about the office’s work, according to Justice Department officials.
When Barr pressed him whether he thought Barr’s letter was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not, but felt that the media coverage of the letter was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said.
So, the two key points here are (1) Mueller did not think Barr’s memo was inaccurate, and (2) Mueller's major concern was actually misleading media coverage.
Of course, this isn’t stopping liberal pundits from foaming at the mouth with allegations that Barr’s memo on the report was misleading or even false.
As Robert Mueller told Barr, his mischaracterizations of the report mislead the public and undermined one of the central purposes for the Justice Department appointing the Special Counsel. Barr then lied to Congress and the press.
— Joe Scarborough (@JoeNBC) May 1, 2019
Whoa.#Mueller confronted #Barr, according to WaPo.
Barr is one of the worst of the Trump sycophants/apologists. An utter disgrace. https://t.co/v1RDxJ71O9
— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) April 30, 2019
Whoa, Special Counsel Robert Mueller says that Attorney General Bill Barr mischaracterized his report.
Is this why @TheJusticeDept Barr is afraid of testifying before the @HouseJudiciary Committee this Thursday? https://t.co/P7OmzKANJQ
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) April 30, 2019
This is incredible: Mueller all but said Barr was sabotaging the report https://t.co/CP9I4yta8t
— Justin Miller (@justinjm1) April 30, 2019
At the time of this writing, #ImpeachBarr is trending on Twitter, and Senator Chuck Schumer is jumping on the Barr-Mischaracterized-The-Mueller-Report bandwagon. “The Senate will hear from Attorney General Barr this week, where he must answer for his mischaracterization of the special counsel’s findings, his outrageously partisan press conference and, in general, his failure to behave with the impartiality demanded of the Office of Attorney General,” Schumer said. Congressman Jerry Nadler, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee also pounced on the misleading headlines, tweeting, "I have demanded the letter & Barr must answer for this. Mueller must be allowed to testify."
And liberals wonder why Trump calls the media the enemy of the people.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/dont-believe-the-headlines-mueller-said-barr-memo-was-accurate/
pete311
05-01-2019, 04:42 PM
Mueller said he COULDN’T make that choice for sitting president because of DOJ policyso he didn’t, leaving accountability to Congress.
pete311
05-01-2019, 04:44 PM
Jim read the actual letter yourself. Barr's summary created the media confusion.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/read-mueller-s-letter-attorney-general-william-barr-n1000601
jimnyc
05-01-2019, 04:44 PM
So, if anything..... and it still deflates petey's little ball! :laugh:
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Full text of Mueller letter to Barr deflates breathless reports
The full text of special counsel Robert Mueller’s letter to Attorney General William Barr deflated initial reports Tuesday that the document mischaracterized Mueller’s investigation.
The Washington Post and New York Times seized on the March letter as evidence of conflict between Mueller and Barr. In the letter, the special counsel criticized the attorney general for the way he chose to present the investigation’s findings regarding Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
Both outlets created the impression Mueller is severely upset with Barr for mischaracterizing the Russia report in his four-page summary of Mueller’s report and that the tone of his criticism shocked the Department of Justice.
That response from Mueller would give a lot of ammunition to the leading narrative that Barr mishandled the delivery of the report and intentionally misled the public as to its contents if it were accurate. But the letter, read in full context, suggests a much more banal reality, which The New York Times and Washington Post buried in their reporting.
https://i.imgur.com/Ta2jEvo.png
Mueller did disagree with the way Barr delivered his findings; he wanted Barr to release executive summaries of the report, but he did not take issue with the accuracy of Barr’s memo to Congress.
Rest - https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/01/full-text-mueller-letter-barr-reports/
jimnyc
05-01-2019, 04:45 PM
Jim read the actual letter yourself
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/read-mueller-s-letter-attorney-general-william-barr-n1000601
I read it, and HIS actual replies throughout - and he never has an issue with the FACTS and the ACCURACY of his reports nor Barr's summary. FACT.
jimnyc
05-01-2019, 04:50 PM
So we know the FACTS of what Mueller said. So..... If anything, are folks now saying that he is taking those words back? I don't think so.
O-V-E-R. Dems can do whatever they want, and stuff like this and lame changes, it only continues. O-V-E-R. Votes ain't there, but the time to waste is there, that's for sure. :rolleyes:
In that call, Mueller said he was concerned that news coverage of the obstruction investigation was misguided and creating public misunderstandings about the office’s work, according to Justice Department officials.
When Barr pressed him whether he thought Barr’s letter was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not, but felt that the media coverage of the letter was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said.
Of course, this isn’t stopping liberal pundits from foaming at the mouth with allegations that Barr’s memo on the report was misleading or even false.
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[B][SIZE=3]Mueller did disagree with the way Barr delivered his findings; he wanted Barr to release executive summaries of the report, but he did not take issue with the accuracy of Barr’s memo to Congress.[/QUOTE]
pete311
05-01-2019, 05:00 PM
Mueller will be called to testify and then we can get the truth.
jimnyc
05-01-2019, 05:14 PM
Mueller will be called to testify and then we can get the truth.
Yup, you guys go ahead and do that. We all know that his word is garbage and the report itself is garbage and didn't do the trick. So no need for a written report at all. Only his word will do, now that everyone saw the results of his written report. :rolleyes: What a bunch of dumbasses.
His report is there. His reply to what Barr reported is there. There's no need to now rehash the entire thing in front of congress when they have a report that took 2 years in the making. Now since it didn't work, the Democrats want another 2 years at the apple, trying to embarrass or do whatever they can prior to the election.
It's over. The report has been made. the government's various intel agencies reports are done. Everything has been asked and answered 50x over. There is no need to start over and bring folks in front of congress to start answering questions that have been answered already. At top, and way way unnecessary IMO, would be to ask a few questions and have Mueller give written responses to what he has already written on all of these subjects.
The dems want to extend for no good reason. EVERYONE said they would accept the written report once Mueller is done, including myself, and including yourself. But it wasn't good enough for democrats, as they didn't "win". So they will not accept and will continue the charade, and you jump along for the ride like a dumbass.
I'm done. I know it's been long over, and then it was long long long been over once Mueller finished and submitted his long awaited report. He charged many folks and delivered a 400 page report. IT IS OVER. It can't and won't go anywhere in the senate. And more so considering it's O-V-E-R.
But it will be fun to watch the idiots squirm like little retarded fish out of water.
O-V-E-R!!!
jimnyc
05-01-2019, 05:31 PM
This guy shouldn't even be in office, IMO. I think anyone busted over "stolen valor" deserve punishment, not public office serving people. But that's another story.
Barr is right here, this is O-V-E-R. And using the justice system as a political weapon needs to stop, and I also agree there.
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Bill Barr Blasts Richard ‘Da Nang Dick’ Blumenthal, ‘It’s Over… We Have to Stop Using the Criminal Justice Process as a Political Weapon’
Attorney General Bill Barr Wednesday testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee about Mueller’s report.
Barr is not intimidated by the screeching Democrats and he’s putting them in their places.
Stolen Valor Senator Richard “Da Nang Dick” Blumenthal (D-CT) tried his hardest to intimidate Bill Barr — it didn’t work.
Blumenthal, who lied about his Vietnam War service, had the gall to tell Barr “history will judge you harshly.”
Bill Barr was unfazed and reminded Blumenthal that he, as the Attorney General is in charge of the Justice Department, and in no way was he going to recuse himself from any of the ongoing investigations.
At the end of the questioning from Blumenthal, Barr schooled the lying Stolen Valor Senator on the job of the DOJ, which is to establish whether there was a crime. Barr told Da Nang Dick to get over the Mueller investigation because it’s over and his department determined there was no crime.
“We have to stop using the criminal justice process as a political weapon,” Barr said.
Thank you, Bill Barr!
https://i.imgur.com/ofgPtoF.png
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/05/bill-barr-blasts-richard-da-nang-dick-blumenthal-its-over-we-have-to-stop-using-the-criminal-justice-process-as-a-political-weapon-video/
pete311
05-01-2019, 06:53 PM
Here is a smart piece from the guy who wrote the special counsel regulations
Mr. Barr tried to spin these facts. He hid Mr. Mueller’s complaints, which were delivered to him in writing more than a month ago, even when Congress asked in a previous hearing about complaints by members of the special counsel's team. And the four-page letter that Mr. Barr issued in March and supposedly described the Mueller report omitted the two key factors driving the special counsel’s decision (which were hard to miss, as they were on the first two pages of the report’s volume about obstruction): First, that he could not indict a sitting president, so it would be unfair to accuse Mr. Trump of crimes even if he were guilty as sin; and second, Mr. Mueller could and would clear a sitting president, but he did not believe the facts cleared the president.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/barr-mueller-report.html?searchResultPosition=1
These pathetic Dems are contemptible. They are forcing Barr to testify about the report, making insinuations about Barr's summary of the report, and calling Barr names to the press, all just because Barr didn't reach the "obstruction of justice" conclusions about Trump that the Dems so desperately wanted him to reach. And of course even Witch-Hunt Bob Mueller didn't even reach those conclusions.
I just really consider these Dems to be sinking to new depths, going below a lowest bar that any previous Congress had ever set. That are a sad, pathetic, contemptible lot.
jimnyc
05-01-2019, 07:14 PM
I prefer the "smart piece" that a guy named Robert Mueller wrote, that of course of who everyone was going to accept the findings from. Now they cry.
It's O-V-E-R
All the opinion pieces in the world isn't going to change that. Nothing anyone who now suddenly doesn't like the report for all kinds of reasons matters - it's O-V-E-R, and apparently you just don't know it yet or refuse to admit to yourself yet. Mueller wrote the report and made no charges, and apparently with enough whining will say whatever this or whatever that about context - but it simply doesn't matter. He brought no charges - and then both Barr and Rosenstein read the report and both also agreed on no obstruction charges.
But it WILL be fun to watch yet more whining and bitching and gotchas, because admittedly a little piece of me does find humor in the retarded frustration of the left. Literally ignoring every and every last wrongdoing that the left may have done, and trying to setup a win for their side and setup the man on the other side for colluding with the Russians.
But it was a fail of epic proportions. Hillary fails AND gets nailed for breaking the law endless times, and also comes out her breaking of the law and pay for play schemes and with uranium. Donna Brazile gets busted for cheating, loses her job and her position with the democrats. Trump wins the impossible. The dossier and an endless stream of information slowly trickles out about how the democrats and intel agencies tried to help Hillary win and setup Trump for much worse. They all lose. Trump is in office and gets investigated as a result. For 2 years the democrats screamed of Trump's guilt. Finally the investigation is over and the report submitted. No charges. Lots of talk about yet another investigation, but towards how this whole thing started from the dossier, clinton, the DOJ/FBI, Stzrok and Page and so much more. So look into that on the side - and we can finally get down to business in government now though, right?
Nope, dems can't accept it, as an election is upcoming, and many many charges are to be had and more found in this investigation should it get off the ground. The Dems have an awful lot to answer for. So why not keep up the lies to deflect? Yeah, not happening. That BS is over and submitted.
Elessar
05-01-2019, 07:35 PM
These pathetic Dems are contemptible. They are forcing Barr to testify about the report, making insinuations about Barr's summary of the report, and calling Barr names to the press, all just because Barr didn't reach the "obstruction of justice" conclusions about Trump that the Dems so desperately wanted him to reach. And of course even Witch-Hunt Bob Mueller didn't even reach those conclusions.
I just really consider these Dems to be sinking to new depths, going below a lowest bar that any previous Congress had ever set. That are a sad, pathetic, contemptible lot.
My opinion is that the MSM and their supportive Dem liberals are like a washer stuck in a spin cycle.
Except they add whining to the sound of the cycle.
pete311
05-02-2019, 12:02 AM
The issue is that Barr's initial summary said there was no OoJ when Mueller explicitly did not exonerate him of that and gave it to congress to determine and Barr has been acting like Trump's lackey personal attorney. If you think nothing is wrong then you have your head in the partisan sand pit.
Elessar
05-02-2019, 01:04 AM
The issue is that Barr's initial summary said there was no OoJ when Mueller explicitly did not exonerate him of that and gave it to congress to determine and Barr has been acting like Trump's lackey personal attorney. If you think nothing is wrong then you have your head in the partisan sand pit.
Then where is your head, along with the rest of the liberal Dem's heads?
Up your collective asses. Hm?
Losers that just can not let it go. Where is all of this 'evidence' that liberal
whiners keep trumpeting? Come on, bring it forth. Are you liberal whiners
withholding evidence from an investigation?
The issue is that Barr's initial summary said there was no OoJ when Mueller explicitly did not exonerate him of that and gave it to congress to determine and Barr has been acting like Trump's lackey personal attorney. If you think nothing is wrong then you have your head in the partisan sand pit.
Since when does Congress have the power to determine or prosecute crimes???? Did they rewrite the Constitution again?
Somebody's head is in the artisan sand pit for sure but it is not who you think it is.
STTAB
05-02-2019, 08:13 AM
Mueller said he COULDN’T make that choice for sitting president because of DOJ policyso he didn’t, leaving accountability to Congress.
False, AND has been pointed out, IF Mueller couldn't have charged Trump for obstruction, why was he even wasting his time investigating such?
Seriously Pete, do you ever stop and think "maybe I'm just wrong here?" Doubtful.
Yesterday was yet another shameful performance by liberals. Especially that twat from Hawaii. She should be rebuked for calling the President names from the Senate building. Can you imagine if Trump called her the things she called him?
Even though we once again know that if a Democrat accuses you of being something, they themselves are that thing.
pete311
05-02-2019, 08:38 AM
Since when does Congress have the power to determine or prosecute crimes???? Did they rewrite the Constitution again?
Somebody's head is in the artisan sand pit for sure but it is not who you think it is.
When did I say they could? Mueller concluded because of DoJ rules he can't indict a sitting president. Left it to congress to decide whether to use impeachment. Mueller also stated once out of office Trump could be prosecuted.
pete311
05-02-2019, 08:41 AM
False, AND has been pointed out, IF Mueller couldn't have charged Trump for obstruction, why was he even wasting his time investigating such?
Seriously Pete, do you ever stop and think "maybe I'm just wrong here?" Doubtful.
Yesterday was yet another shameful performance by liberals. Especially that twat from Hawaii. She should be rebuked for calling the President names from the Senate building. Can you imagine if Trump called her the things she called him?
Even though we once again know that if a Democrat accuses you of being something, they themselves are that thing.
ugh maybe to investigate so citizens can make an informed decision and again, he can be prosecuted when he leaves office. Do you live in a cave. Trump has been calling people names every single day since he started his 2016 campaign.
STTAB
05-02-2019, 08:54 AM
When did I say they could? Mueller concluded because of DoJ rules he can't indict a sitting president. Left it to congress to decide whether to use impeachment. Mueller also stated once out of office Trump could be prosecuted.
Let me put it in smaller words
IF Mueller couldn't reccomend indictment , then why was he investigating? It wasn't his job to investigate for possible impeachment. He was looking into CRIMINAL charges. And the DoJ isn't in the habit of investigating crimes that maybe they can one day prosecute down the line, but probably not.
Also, the REAL reason he didn't reach a conclusion is because that conclusion would had to have been "Trump didn't obstruct" because performing your legal duties can't be obstruction.
And that isn't even considering that the entire investigation was a farce to begin with, collusion itself isn't a crime, so why was the DoJ involved with that? Criminal conspiracy of course would be a crime, but that was never even alluded to.
Pete, Trump has broken people like you and made you unable to see the larger picture . If stooges inside the government could do this to a billionaire sitting US President, what in the holy fuck could they do to a couple of nobodies like you or me or Jim, or Abbey, or someone in your family?
What about all the people who are not billionaires who work for Trump and did nothing illegal , but had to spend tens of thousands of dollars for lawyers to deal with this investigation that we now know was a known farce right from the beginning Pete? You don't give a shit about them either?
What about the fact that for two fucking years we have been told that our President is a traitor and your party has been doing everything they can to obstruct everything he's tried to do regardless of whether what he was trying to do would help Americans or not. And you can't deny that he has done some things that have helped Americans, how much more could he have accomplished without this stupid investigation in the background? Don't you care about that?
What about just the principle involved Pete? Because I can promise you this, if what was done to Trump were done to a Democrat President, I would be just as livid as I am here. I would be just as concerned about the abuse of power. I would be just as scared of the over reaching abilities of a Justice Department that just decides it doesn't like someone.
My feelings and beliefs are that you would change your tune 100% if this had happened to a Democrat. And that is quite sad Petey.
STTAB
05-02-2019, 08:56 AM
ugh maybe to investigate so citizens can make an informed decision and again, he can be prosecuted when he leaves office. Do you live in a cave. Trump has been calling people names every single day since he started his 2016 campaign.
The Justice Department doesn't investigate people so that citizens can make an informed decision you dumb shit.
And of course Trump calls people names , and you dumb fucks go apoplectic every time he does, but giggle like school children whenever someone calls him something. That's the point.
And Trump has NEVER called a Democrat dishonest or a liar or whatever as part of his official duties the way this dishonest Senator from Hawaii did him yesterday. She should be reprimanded for it, but of course complete dumb shits like yourself applaud it.
pete311
05-02-2019, 08:57 AM
Let me put it in smaller words
IF Mueller couldn't reccomend indictment , then why was he investigating? It wasn't his job to investigate for possible impeachment. He was looking into CRIMINAL charges. And the DoJ isn't in the habit of investigating crimes that maybe they can one day prosecute down the line, but probably not.
Also, the REAL reason he didn't reach a conclusion is because that conclusion would had to have been "Trump didn't obstruct" because performing your legal duties can't be obstruction.
And that isn't even considering that the entire investigation was a farce to begin with, collusion itself isn't a crime, so why was the DoJ involved with that? Criminal conspiracy of course would be a crime, but that was never even alluded to.
Pete, Trump has broken people like you and made you unable to see the larger picture . If stooges inside the government could do this to a billionaire sitting US President, what in the holy fuck could they do to a couple of nobodies like you or me or Jim, or Abbey, or someone in your family?
What about all the people who are not billionaires who work for Trump and did nothing illegal , but had to spend tens of thousands of dollars for lawyers to deal with this investigation that we now know was a known farce right from the beginning Pete? You don't give a shit about them either?
What about the fact that for two fucking years we have been told that our President is a traitor and your party has been doing everything they can to obstruct everything he's tried to do regardless of whether what he was trying to do would help Americans or not. And you can't deny that he has done some things that have helped Americans, how much more could he have accomplished without this stupid investigation in the background? Don't you care about that?
What about just the principle involved Pete? Because I can promise you this, if what was done to Trump were done to a Democrat President, I would be just as livid as I am here. I would be just as concerned about the abuse of power. I would be just as scared of the over reaching abilities of a Justice Department that just decides it doesn't like someone.
My feelings and beliefs are that you would change your tune 100% if this had happened to a Democrat. And that is quite sad Petey.
You haven't read the report
pete311
05-02-2019, 08:59 AM
The Justice Department doesn't investigate people so that citizens can make an informed decision you dumb shit.
how convenient you left out "when he leaves office" he can be prosecuted, you dumb tribal partisan piece of shit.
pete311
05-02-2019, 09:02 AM
Also Trump has 14 on going investigations. Nice winner you picked there.
STTAB
05-02-2019, 09:10 AM
The issue is that Barr's initial summary said there was no OoJ when Mueller explicitly did not exonerate him of that and gave it to congress to determine and Barr has been acting like Trump's lackey personal attorney. If you think nothing is wrong then you have your head in the partisan sand pit.
WTF are you talking about stupid, our Justice system never exonerates ANYONE. God you liberals are stupid. Even if Trump were charged and taken to court and found not guilty, that isn't an exoneration. That is NOT how our system works.
What Barr said in his letter was 100% correct , broad picture NO collusion at all and no charging for obstruction recommended. Then three weeks later the ENTIRE fucking report was made public with only 6% of it being redacted.
You, and others once again over reacted to a nothing burger.
Petey wake the fuck up man. For your own sake if nothing else.
STTAB
05-02-2019, 09:13 AM
Also Trump has 14 on going investigations. Nice winner you picked there.
A) I didn't pick Trump. I didn't even vote for him
B) 14 investigations that all have as much merit as this one did? Probably so
You can be damn sure I'll be voting for Trump in 2020 though. If for no other reason than to watch dumb shits like you shed more tears.
When did I say they could? Mueller concluded because of DoJ rules he can't indict a sitting president. Left it to congress to decide whether to use impeachment. Mueller also stated once out of office Trump could be prosecuted.
Bullshit. Not once does Mueller mention impeachment. You are just being your deceitful old self trying to twist what you wrote into something you didn't.
STTAB
05-02-2019, 09:17 AM
how convenient you left out "when he leaves office" he can be prosecuted, you dumb tribal partisan piece of shit.
I'm tribal and partisan? LOL
That was hilarious.
STTAB
05-02-2019, 09:18 AM
Bullshit. Not once does Mueller mention impeachment. You are just being your deceitful old self trying to twist what you wrote into something you didn't.
In fact Mueller left it to BARR, explicity , because Obstruction would be a criminal charge and Congress has nothing to do with charging people with crimes.
pete311
05-02-2019, 09:19 AM
Bullshit. Not once does Mueller mention impeachment. You are just being your deceitful old self trying to twist what you wrote into something you didn't.
Why would he? Impeachment is a political tool, you tool.
STTAB
05-02-2019, 09:22 AM
Why would he? Impeachment is a political tool, you tool.
WHat? YOU are the one who said Mueller left it up to Congress.
My God how Jim banned Gabby but lets YOU stick around is anyone's guess
You really should do the world a favor and remove yourself from it.
pete311
05-02-2019, 09:22 AM
WTF are you talking about stupid, our Justice system never exonerates ANYONE. God you liberals are stupid. Even if Trump were charged and taken to court and found not guilty, that isn't an exoneration. That is NOT how our system works.
What Barr said in his letter was 100% correct , broad picture NO collusion at all and no charging for obstruction recommended. Then three weeks later the ENTIRE fucking report was made public with only 6% of it being redacted.
You, and others once again over reacted to a nothing burger.
Petey wake the fuck up man. For your own sake if nothing else.
Policy aside, why has trumped claimed the report totally exonerates him? There is clear evidence of obstruction, Barr is just Trumps lackey. I'm good thanks.
pete311
05-02-2019, 09:28 AM
WHat? YOU are the one who said Mueller left it up to Congress.
My God how Jim banned Gabby but lets YOU stick around is anyone's guess
You really should do the world a favor and remove yourself from it.
You are as classy as our president. :salute:
"Mr. Mueller stopped short of concluding whether Mr. Trump committed that crime, but the report made clear that others can use the evidence to make that call. Mr. Mueller’s investigators made an oblique reference to possible impeachment proceedings and noted that after Mr. Trump leaves office, he will lose the temporary immunity the Justice Department says sitting presidents enjoy. Mr. Mueller cited that factor as barring him from making accusations now."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/us/politics/trump-mueller-obstruction.html
STTAB
05-02-2019, 09:28 AM
Policy aside, why has trumped claimed the report totally exonerates him? There is clear evidence of obstruction, Barr is just Trumps lackey. I'm good thanks.
Who cares that he claims the report totally exonerates him? Seriously. You don't care, not really. You just want anything to bitch about.
And no , you aren't okay.
pete311
05-02-2019, 09:31 AM
Who cares that he claims the report totally exonerates him? Seriously. You don't care, not really. You just want anything to bitch about.
And no , you aren't okay.
I was pretty silent here for the last month and I'm fine going back to that as I have a lot of work to do. Ya'll were basically begging for me to return, because without me, you're left to just circle jerking each other. You need a enemy, I get it. I am fine, thank you.
Why would he? Impeachment is a political tool, you tool.
Indeed it is. Now your implication is that the entire investigation results in a recommendation for impeachment, which reduces the entire thing to a political maneuver (which it is).
Calling me names has wounded me to the quick...whatever shall I do?
Policy aside, why has trumped claimed the report totally exonerates him? There is clear evidence of obstruction, Barr is just Trumps lackey. I'm good thanks.
If there is indeed "clear evidence of obstruction" why didn't Meuller state that? Was that not the purpose of his investigation... "collusion" and "obstruction"?
I was pretty silent here for the last month and I'm fine going back to that as I have a lot of work to do. Ya'll were basically begging for me to return, because without me, you're left to just circle jerking each other. You need a enemy, I get it. I am fine, thank you.
LOL....yeah because the entire Board went silent once you left. You are fooling yourself if you think posters on this board "need" you!
STTAB
05-02-2019, 09:37 AM
I was pretty silent here for the last month and I'm fine going back to that as I have a lot of work to do. Ya'll were basically begging for me to return, because without me, you're left to just circle jerking each other. You need a enemy, I get it. I am fine, thank you.
Petey, you may have noticed somthing about me. I don't give a fuck where you stand politically if you're an idiot I'm going to tell you that you're an idiot. There are at least 3 conservatives on this board who are idiots and I have told them so, so pretending that I am calling you an idiot simply because you are a liberal just doesn't play because my posts prove otherwise.
You are an idiot.
Post or don't post, makes no difference to me, but you are an idiot.
pete311
05-02-2019, 09:46 AM
Petey, you may have noticed somthing about me. I don't give a fuck where you stand politically if you're an idiot I'm going to tell you that you're an idiot. There are at least 3 conservatives on this board who are idiots and I have told them so, so pretending that I am calling you an idiot simply because you are a liberal just doesn't play because my posts prove otherwise.
You are an idiot.
Post or don't post, makes no difference to me, but you are an idiot.
Then I will continue to be an idiot, because my life is a dream. Pete Out!
STTAB
05-02-2019, 09:54 AM
Then I will continue to be an idiot, because my life is a dream. Pete Out!
Yep, that's what cowards like you and the three conservative idiots on here do . You call other people partisans for not agreeing to YOUR partisan beliefs and then you run away because someone called you out on your bullshit, damaging your fragile ego.
Petey, you are what is known in internal DNC documents as a "useful idiot"
jimnyc
05-02-2019, 11:13 AM
I was pretty silent here for the last month and I'm fine going back to that as I have a lot of work to do. Ya'll were basically begging for me to return, because without me, you're left to just circle jerking each other. You need a enemy, I get it. I am fine, thank you.
Begging you to return? I pointed out many times you never went anywhere, for starters. And all many wanted was for you to rightfully eat the huge shit crow sandwich you made. But you refuse and build on the sandwich.
Don't overestimate people giving a fuck about you, your lies and your inability to even look at the other side. You are the hack of all hacks, and I believe people get joy at proving you wrong on a daily basis.
We ALL argue about all kinds of other things and debate daily. It's you brain dead one way leftists that only know one way in life.
You purposely came every other day while you were proven wrong AGAIN, and waited for a gotcha moment to start posting again. My little bitch has returned home to me!!
jimnyc
05-02-2019, 11:15 AM
Then I will continue to be an idiot, because my life is a dream. Pete Out!
LOL says the guy who had to hide for well over a month or whatever, rather than know what a "man" is and just admit he was wrong about something. But I quoted the man part for a reason. https://i.imgur.com/6nypguF.gif
STTAB
05-02-2019, 11:24 AM
LOL says the guy who had to hide for well over a month or whatever, rather than know what a "man" is and just admit he was wrong about something. But I quoted the man part for a reason. https://i.imgur.com/6nypguF.gif
The useful idiot is merely doing what his party has told him to, pretend like the fake ass collusion investigation never happened and scream obstruction.
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