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jimnyc
05-27-2019, 01:55 PM
Not sure if it should be under conspiracy theories or not... but seems some are giving it basic explanations for something that seems so crazy.

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‘Wow, what is that?’ Navy pilots report unexplained flying objects

WASHINGTON — The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.

“These things would be out there all day,” said Lieutenant Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been with the Navy for 10 years and who reported his sightings to the Pentagon and Congress. “Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”

In late 2014, a Super Hornet pilot had a near collision with one of the objects, and an official mishap report was filed. Some of the incidents were captured on video, including one taken by a plane’s camera in early 2015 that shows an object zooming over the ocean waves as pilots question what they are watching.

“Wow, what is that, man?” one exclaims. “Look at it fly!”

No one in the Defense Department is saying that the objects were extraterrestrial, and experts emphasize that earthly explanations can generally be found for such incidents. Graves and four other Navy pilots, who said in interviews with The New York Times that they saw the objects in 2014 and 2015 in training maneuvers from Virginia to Florida off the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, make no assertions of their provenance. But the objects have gotten the attention of the Navy, which this year sent out new classified guidance for how to report what the military calls unexplained aerial phenomena, or unidentified flying objects.

Joseph Gradisher, a Navy spokesman, said the new guidance was an update of instructions that went out to the fleet in 2015, after the Roosevelt incidents.

“There were a number of different reports,” he said. Some cases could have been commercial drones, he said, but in other cases “we don’t know who’s doing this, we don’t have enough data to track this. So the intent of the message to the fleet is to provide updated guidance on reporting procedures for suspected intrusions into our airspace.”

The sightings were reported to the Pentagon’s shadowy, little-known Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which analyzed the radar data, video footage, and accounts provided by senior officers from the Roosevelt. Luis Elizondo, a military intelligence official who ran the program until he resigned in 2017, called the sightings “a striking series of incidents.”

The program, which began in 2007, was officially shut down in 2012 when the money dried up, according to the Pentagon. But the Navy recently said it investigates military reports of UFOs, and Elizondo and other participants say the program — parts of it remain classified — has continued in other forms. The program has also studied video that shows a whitish oval object described as a giant Tic Tac, about the size of a commercial plane, encountered by two Navy fighter jets off the coast of San Diego in 2004.

Leon Golub, a senior astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, said the possibility of an extraterrestrial cause “is so unlikely that it competes with many other low-probability but more mundane explanations.” He added that “there are so many other possibilities — bugs in the code for the imaging and display systems, atmospheric effects and reflections, neurological overload from multiple inputs during high-speed flight.”

Graves still cannot explain what he saw. In the summer of 2014, he and Lieutenant Danny Accoin, another Super Hornet pilot, were part of a squadron, the VFA-11 “Red Rippers” out of Naval Air Station Oceana, Va., that was training for a deployment to the Persian Gulf.

Graves and Accoin spoke on the record to The Times about the objects. Three other pilots in the squadron also spoke to The Times about the objects but declined to be named.

The pilots began noticing the objects after their 1980s-era radar was upgraded to a more advanced system. As one fighter jet after another got the new radar, pilots began picking up the objects but ignoring what they thought were false radar tracks.

But Graves said the objects persisted, showing up at 30,000 feet, 20,000 feet, even sea level. Then pilots began seeing the objects.

What was strange, the pilots said, was that the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew.

Asked what they thought the objects were, the pilots refused to speculate.

Rest - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wow-what-is-that-navy-pilots-report-unexplained-flying-objects/ar-AABXltD

Elessar
05-27-2019, 06:29 PM
I read about this earlier today.

There is no sound reason to believe those pilots are making this up just to get face time.

As vast as this universe really is, isn't it a little conceited to believe we are the only
sentient beings in it? I believe other beings can and do exist, just not of our world.

High_Plains_Drifter
05-28-2019, 04:53 AM
They're there... they're there... and half the time, we can't even see them. They can cloak.

When I thought I saw a face peering in the window of my shop at 3:00 in the morning, and my son and I ran outside to investigate, and then both witnessed a massive, probably 300' long white blue beam of light with a white transparent core probably 8' in diameter surrounded by a transparent blue haze, more concentrated near the center of the length of the beam, come straight out of nowhere in a perfectly clear night sky... you tell me what shot that beam down. Whatever it was, we couldn't see it, and I think the beam was a transporter beam beaming up whatever I saw peaking in my shop window. And no, I'm telling the honest to God truth, God strike me dead if I'm lying. Why would I make such a story up knowing full well how outlandish it sounds, and open myself up to ridicule I surely don't need to hear? It happened, for real.

There's no doubt in my mind that there are aliens from other worlds that look us over. I also believe people like Bob Lazar that claim we have in our possession alien crafts that we're trying to reverse engineer, and we may have, and what some of these pilots, and people see, is man made here on earth, but it's alien technology, but there's no way in HELL we'll ever be told about it.

My new super Christian son, however, has a different explanation, that I just do my best to ignore as to not cause a huge discussion, but he says all these extraterrestrials are DEMONS. I believe what I saw here that night had something to do with him, because he has stories of alien encounters from when he was young that would curl your toes, and he even had blisters on his hands one time that many who claim they've been abducted have as well. But since my son became a super Christian, he says the encounters have stopped. He says that invoking the name of Jesus Christ when being visited by these beings will make them go away, proving their demons. I've heard others claim this as well though, not just him. Who knows, maybe he's right. All I know right now is that... no one knows for sure... at least no one that's talking and can show up proof.