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jimnyc
05-31-2019, 02:14 PM
Ignorance or simply lying? Or a little of both?

By definition a machine gun is referring to an automatic gun. And they aren't as easy to get as he implies. Read the part in bold. This sorry excuse for a man is a dang idiot.

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Barack Obama: Too Easy to ‘Buy Machine Guns’ in America

Barack Obama said U.S. gun laws “don’t make much sense” and specifically criticized the ability to “buy machine guns.”

Obama offered his thoughts during a May 30, 2019, speech while participating in VTEX DAY in San Paulo, Brazil.

The Daily Mail quoted Obama saying, “Gun laws in the United States don’t make much sense. Anybody can buy any weapon, anytime without, you know, without much if any regulation. They can buy over the Internet. They can buy machine guns.”

There are number of problems with Obama’s claims.

The first is the assertion anybody “can buy any weapon, anytime…without much if any regulation.” This is simply untrue. Firearms are highly regulated in the U.S. via background checks for retail point of sales, registration requirements in states like California and New York, and mandated waiting periods for gun purchases in numerous states as well.

Moreover, possession of a firearm is highly regulated requiring Firearm Owners Identication (FOID) cards or other licensing schemes in various states.

One cannot even possess a gun in his home without such a card in states like Illinois or without first getting a certificate from the government in states like California.

Obama’s claim that guns can be purchased over the internet is spurious as well as it is legal for retailers to advertise and accept payment for a gun over the internet but they cannot ship a gun directly to a buyer. Rather, the gun has to be shipped to a Federal Firearm License holder (FFL) near the buyer so a background check can be performed before the buyer is allowed to take possession of the gun.

Lastly, Obama suggested it is easy to buy machine guns in the U.S. He made this statement in the context of talking about the December 14, 2012, attack on Sandy Hook Elementary School, in which machine guns were not used. Nevertheless, Obama broached the subject but did not mention that machine guns are regulated under the National Firearms Act (1934), which means the purchase of one requires a background check, the submission of fingerprints and photographs, the payment of a $200 federal tax, and registering with the weapon with the federal bureaucracy. This process takes eight to nine months to complete.

Moreover, the only machine guns that legally be purchased are those built prior to May 1986, therefore there is a limited number of them available. This means the cost of such a weapon often runs in the tens of thousands.

Obama did not mention any of these things when suggesting machine guns are too easy to buy in America.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/31/barack-obama-too-easy-to-buy-machine-guns-in-america/

STTAB
05-31-2019, 02:50 PM
To be fair Obama was referring to inner city niggers who simply ignore the law .

As for us law abiding folk. Yes, I legally own several fully automatic weapons. It's not a cheap , or easy, process to obtain a fully automatic weapon. Beyond the background check and fees associated with the legal transfer of a fully automatic weapon one must consider the purchase cost of the weapon itself. Given that no new automatic weapons have appeared on the legal market in this country since 1986 , when one of the older weapons does come up for sale, it's going to be expensive. I have a first generation M16 that is full auto capable and turned down a $26K offer last year.

Long story short, Obama is a liar. But we knew that before his most recent lie.

Elessar
05-31-2019, 09:51 PM
I have posted this before:

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/laws-alcohol-tobacco-firearms-and-explosives

Refer to the information on the left margin of the page.

Obama does not know what he is talking about - once again. Just blowing smoke up his
own miserable ass.

Gunny
05-31-2019, 10:31 PM
I like (not) his use of the term "machine gun". Is this the kick off for another hate term like "assault rifle"?

I bet O-blah-blah couldn't differentiate between a MG and a SA rifle if given his choice of several of each.

Elessar
06-01-2019, 12:39 AM
I like (not) his use of the term "machine gun". Is this the kick off for another hate term like "assault rifle"?

I bet O-blah-blah couldn't differentiate between a MG and a SA rifle if given his choice of several of each.

Guaran -damn-tee!

He is a frikkin' fool. 'Community Organizer' in Chicago that could not clean up his turf.
What a fake! I sometimes wonder if the blacks in gangs there recognized him as being mulatto
and disregarded him.

He would not know the difference between a squirt gun and a M-16....just lump them into 'GUN".

CSM
06-01-2019, 06:56 AM
Darn, I wanna buy a machine gun over the internet....