Stolen Valor: Fake Green Beret Forced to Shut Down Honor Guard Group

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/01/03/stolen-valor-fake-green-beret-forced-shut-down-honor-guard-group.html

Stolen Valor: Fake Green Beret Forced to Shut Down Honor Guard Group

Pictured here, Papotia Reginald Wright's military record does not support his claims to have been in Special Forces. According to investigations by multiple groups, the supposed Special Forces veteran vastly inflated his military service to include medals for valor. (COURTESY OF GUARDIANS OF THE GREEN BERET)
Pictured here, Papotia Reginald Wright's military record does not support his claims to have been in Special Forces. According to investigations by multiple groups, the supposed Special Forces veteran vastly inflated his military service to include medals for valor. (COURTESY OF GUARDIANS OF THE GREEN BERET)
3 Jan 2018
Stars and Stripes | By Stephen Carlson
WASHINGTON -- Papotia Reginald Wright started the 8th Special Forces Regiment New York Honor Guard more than a year ago to perform burial services for veterans. But according to investigations by multiple groups, the supposed Special Forces veteran vastly inflated his military service, including medals for valor, and his group has since shut down.

Wright claimed to be a retired command sergeant major from Special Forces and used his fraudulent claim to run a veterans service organization with no official nonprofit status in Brooklyn, N.Y., according the state Attorney General's office. Military records seen by Stars and Stripes show he served in the Army from 1982-90 as a truck driver who never ranked higher than a specialist -- a far cry from his claims of combat service.

Photographs show Wright in full dress uniform at promotional events including a New York Giants game. Most of his decorations -- a Bronze Star, Purple Heart and others -- are allegedly fake, according to Steve Antson from Guardians of the Green Beret, a watchdog group that works to expose people pretending to be part of Special Forces.

According to federal law under the Stolen Valor Act, it is a crime to lie about military awards for monetary or other tangible benefits.

Wright, who goes by "Reggie," told Stars and Stripes that his rank is honorary, not an attempt to mislead.

"Because I started the unit (the Honor Guard), I was the top NCO there," he said. Wright has said he never claimed to be in Special Forces specifically, but that he drove trucks for the 75th Ranger Regiment and 5th Special Forces Group as an attachment.

As part of the Army's Authorized Provider Partnership Program, organizations like Wright's can perform military honors for funerals of former military personnel or honor guard ceremonies for events. "When they couldn't take up the slack, we were called," Wright said of the Army.

According to its now-defunct Facebook page, the "8th Special Forces Regiment New York Honor Guard is a Veteran Service Organization (VSO) that renders final honors to Veterans with an Honorable Discharge or General Discharge with Honorable conditions." It is based at the Park Slope Armory building on 8th Avenue in Brooklyn.

The name is an apparent reference to the 8th Special Forces Group, which conducted counterinsurgency operations and training in the backdrop of the Cold War in Latin America. The unit was disbanded in 1980.

The Guardians of the Green Beret said they have been aware of the Honor Guard for about two months, after being alerted by another watchdog organization called Guardian of Valor that Wright was exaggerating his military service to promote the Honor Guard.

Wright claimed he had been part of the "Black Hawk Down" incident in Mogadishu in 1993 that led to the deaths of 18 U.S service members, Antson said. Wright's service ended in 1990, according to his personnel record.

Multiple people confirmed to Antson that Wright told the story of an enemy fighter who snuck up behind him and cut his kidney out. "He's saying he is walking around with half a kidney," he said. Wright never received a Purple Heart, according to his military records.

An official at Fort Hamilton in Brooklyn, who wasn't perm................


I simply can not understand why anybody in this day and age accepts what a person says about their past service without a shred of proof of that person even having ever served in our military.. These kinds of worthless liars that claim military service or heroic deeds in service are lowest of the low-as they steal from those that actually honorably serve...
Internet is plagued by tens of thousands liars that inflate or else outright lie about who and what they are..
Some are easy to spot, others are not....... A sad reality in this modern age....-Tyr

[Elessar]

I simply can not understand why anybody in this day and age accepts what a person says about their past service without a shred of proof of that person even having ever served in our military.. These kinds of worthless liars that claim military service or heroic deeds in service are lowest of the low-as they steal from those that actually honorably serve...
Internet is plagued by tens of thousands liars that inflate or else outright lie about who and what they are..
Some are easy to spot, others are not....... A sad reality in this modern age....-Tyr

It completely sucks!

I have met a couple out and about that bragged about service they never did, and shot them down
on the spot.

My own brother is one. He bragged about being a Master Gunnery Sargent, but never made it past 6 years in the
Marine Corps - discharged at his highest rank of Buck Sgt, Dishonorable. In the 'Nam era, that was quite a feat.
My final straw was when he told our newly married Step Dad that he was a 30 year Vet, retired LT Colonel.
I dismantled him as a moderator at Military.com and our local home newspaper.

I cannot stand a poser!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

It completely sucks!

I have met a couple out and about that bragged about service they never did, and shot them down
on the spot.

My own brother is one. He bragged about being a Master Gunnery Sargent, but never made it past 6 years in the
Marine Corps - discharged at his highest rank of Buck Sgt. My final straw was when he told our newly married
Step Dad that he was a 30 year Vet, retired LT Colonel. I dismantled him as a moderator at Military.com and our local
home newspaper.

I cannot stand a poser!

Some liars that say military service can be spotted as liars if one judges their character and way of communicating.
Especially if they claim a long service record--as that alters the way they speak to others in several discernible ways, if one has the knowledge and pattern recognition ability that some of us are blessed to have.
To me it is sickening the way some get away with it because --others -- just take their damn word for it --as if they can not or else do not lie.
To take an unknown users enhancement of their standing in regards to military service--without any proof whatsoever is to me being extremely gullible and a bit irresponsible to boot.
Such people are almost always arrogant egotists. And have an insane prima donna complex--craving attention..--Tyr

[Elessar]

Some liars that say military service can be spotted as liars if one judges their character and way of communicating.
Especially if they claim a long service record--as that alters the way they speak to others in several discernible ways, if one has the knowledge and pattern recognition ability that some of us are blessed to have.
To me it is sickening the way some get away with it because --others -- just take their damn word for it --as if they can not or else do not lie.
To take an unknown users enhancement of their standing in regards to military service--without any proof whatsoever is to me being extremely gullible and a bit irresponsible to boot.
Such people are almost always arrogant egotists. And have an insane prima donna complex--craving attention..--Tyr

A trained eye and mind will spot the posers in an instant.

It is all military bearing, humility, and quiet honor.
Posers like to bedeck themselves in easily bought miniature medals, badges, and ribbons.
That irritates me. All I wear in public is a shirt or two that simply say U.S.Coast Guard.
Got a ball cap from my old SAR Station that has a miniature Coxswain's badge. I don't
wear it any more. It goes with the rest of my stuff to my son.

[darin]

I simply can not understand why anybody in this day and age accepts what a person says about their past service without a shred of proof of that person even having ever served in our military.. These kinds of worthless liars that claim military service or heroic deeds in service are lowest of the low-as they steal from those that actually honorably serve...
Internet is plagued by tens of thousands liars that inflate or else outright lie about who and what they are..
Some are easy to spot, others are not....... A sad reality in this modern age....-Tyr

Awhile ago I tried to initiate a service-verification program where anyone on the board wanting a Veteran logo by their name submit Privacy-info-redacted service records to Staff. I've see the program used on Military-centric forums. I'd still support that here.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Awhile ago I tried to initiate a service-verification program where anyone on the board wanting a Veteran logo by their name submit Privacy-info-redacted service records to Staff. I've see the program used on Military-centric forums. I'd still support that here.

I'd welcome that as it seems a prudent thing to do.
And if done, the question about the truth of actually truly having military service would be rendered mute.
I know there has been several come here in the past that lied about it.
Why not have it verified and end the controversy, unless such can not be verified.
I can not see any reason a person would oppose it!???
Unless that person was lying about it from the start...----Tyr

[CSM]

Awhile ago I tried to initiate a service-verification program where anyone on the board wanting a Veteran logo by their name submit Privacy-info-redacted service records to Staff. I've see the program used on Military-centric forums. I'd still support that here.

yeah, we tried that sometime ago. Few of us even sent documents showing proof of service/rank etc. but it never really took off. I think there is potential of stolen ID (never mind stolen valor) if the board got hacked or whatever. I believe all of us vets currently on this board are pretty much straight shooters. Except Gunny. I thin Gunny was really a USMC proctologist because he knows so much about a**holes....just sayin. JUST KIDDING!!!

On side note, if I had a nickel for every person claiming to be Special Forces/Ranger/Command Specialist/Purple Heart/Medal of Honor/Space Shuttle door gunner, I would be a rich SoB. Sometimes you can tell right off the bat if someone is a poser.

[darin]

yeah, we tried that sometime ago. Few of us even sent documents showing proof of service/rank etc. but it never really took off. I think there is potential of stolen ID (never mind stolen valor) if the board got hacked or whatever. I believe all of us vets currently on this board are pretty much straight shooters. Except Gunny. I thin Gunny was really a USMC proctologist because he knows so much about a**holes....just sayin. JUST KIDDING!!!

On side note, if I had a nickel for every person claiming to be Special Forces/Ranger/Command Specialist/Purple Heart/Medal of Honor/Space Shuttle door gunner, I would be a rich SoB. Sometimes you can tell right off the bat if someone is a poser.

was on the paratrooper forum awhile back - they had a system in place. Worked well. But that was a board geared for veterans and made probably more sense. What frustrates me is obvious hacks - be they liars or embellishes - use claims of service to try and bolster their point of views. Guess its okay to be frustrated. Really no measurable harm.

[CSM]

was on the paratrooper forum awhile back - they had a system in place. Worked well. But that was a board geared for veterans and made probably more sense. What frustrates me is obvious hacks - be they liars or embellishes - use claims of service to try and bolster their point of views. Guess its okay to be frustrated. Really no measurable harm.

Telling war stories among vets is one thing. Pretending to be something or someone you are not (whether the intent is to sate your own ego or gain some material advantage) is another.

Truthfully, I tend to give folks the benefit of the doubt. I have a neighbor (lives right next door) in his 90's who was in the Army a during WWII. Never brags but we talk about our service every once in a while. He was a truck driver in the RED BALL Express (google it!). Served 4 years and got as a PFC..... I have the utmost respect for that guy and would do just about anything for him. Then there is the kid across the street who is trying to convince me he is a bad ass Ranger with 6 combat tours. Come to find out, he is in the Civil Air Patrol and barely old enough to go outside by himself.

[Kathianne]

yeah, we tried that sometime ago. Few of us even sent documents showing proof of service/rank etc. but it never really took off. I think there is potential of stolen ID (never mind stolen valor) if the board got hacked or whatever. I believe all of us vets currently on this board are pretty much straight shooters. Except Gunny. I thin Gunny was really a USMC proctologist because he knows so much about a**holes....just sayin. JUST KIDDING!!!

On side note, if I had a nickel for every person claiming to be Special Forces/Ranger/Command Specialist/Purple Heart/Medal of Honor/Space Shuttle door gunner, I would be a rich SoB. Sometimes you can tell right off the bat if someone is a poser.
Gunny going to be :laugh2:

[jimnyc]

Awhile ago I tried to initiate a service-verification program where anyone on the board wanting a Veteran logo by their name submit Privacy-info-redacted service records to Staff. I've see the program used on Military-centric forums. I'd still support that here.

NOT EVER HAPPENING here. If you guys want to question the service of folks you never met before, so be it, but it's not happening on my dime.

[jimnyc]

And if folks don't like it here, or don't like the way I trust people, or the way the board is ran anymore.... ALL The way up top on the right hand side - 6 letter making up 2 words.

I've ALWAYS done nothing but respect our military members, but I'll be damned if folks who don't like one another then start tossing stolen valor around.

And if you think I'm a liar, or have an issue that I oppose it - see paragraph 1 above.

[STTAB]

NOT EVER HAPPENING here. If you guys want to question the service of folks you never met before, so be it, but it's not happening on my dime.

I'll NEVER give my private information again. Darin can call me whatever he likes. A long time ago when I was naive about message boards I joined USMB and gave Gunny my bonafides when asked well somehow a person who really hated me got ahold of that info and tried to get into my real life. I don't think Gunny did it and I doubt think Jim would either but noway Im exposing my family like that again.

[STTAB]

Deleted out of respect for Kathy.

[Gunny]

I'll NEVER give my private information again. Darin can call me whatever he likes. A long time ago when I was naive about message boards I joined USMB and gave Gunny my bonafides when asked well somehow a person who really hated me got ahold of that info and tried to get into my real life. I don't think Gunny did it and I doubt think Jim would either but noway Im exposing my family like that again.Where does this come from? Honest question. I have never done any such thing to anyone, and don't recall any such incident. I hate rats and I hate loose lips more than "hating" you was ever even a blip on the radar.

As far as the topic goes (I think we've done this one before), I have to just take it case by case. If it's actually hurting/scamming/otherwise enriching the person, then yeah, I have a problem with it.

I kinda have a problem with some of the exposeRS as well. That's what you have to do with your life? Troll frauds and expose them on the internet? I think that says quite a lot.

And I'm sorry, but the clown asses that get on with 13 Nam medals, 5 MOHs, An Army shirt with Marine chevrons on it and obviously is a total dumbass that can't even pass the test, been in every war since WWI ... I'm :laugh2: What can I say? Stupid people make me feel good :laugh:

[Kathianne]

Where does this come from? Honest question. I have never done any such thing to anyone, and don't recall any such incident. I hate rats and I hate loose lips more than "hating" you was ever even a blip on the radar.

As far as the topic goes (I think we've done this one before), I have to just take it case by case. If it's actually hurting/scamming/otherwise enriching the person, then yeah, I have a problem with it.

I kinda have a problem with some of the exposeRS as well. That's what you have to do with your life? Troll frauds and expose them on the internet? I think that says quite a lot.

And I'm sorry, but the clown asses that get on with 13 Nam medals, 5 MOHs, An Army shirt with Marine chevrons on it and obviously is a total dumbass that can't even pass the test, been in every war since WWI ... I'm :laugh2: What can I say? Stupid people make me feel good :laugh:
:laugh2:

[icansayit]

We veterans have NO reason, or responsibility to offer any proof of our service to ANYONE. We have a unique ability (within our own minds) to sort out those who would pretend to be, or brag about serving in the military.

Therefore. If anyone doubts my sincerity, or the sincerity of any member here who IS a veteran. That's their problem, not ours.

Yes, we veterans despise, and easily challenge anyone who tries to portray themselves as veterans. We also know. There are some very sick people out there in civilian life who honestly feel they are somehow looked upon as less of a citizen, because they didn't serve in uniform, and this INTERNET FORUM method, is the only way they can pretend to be someone they are not...because it gives them some kind of feelings they wish they had experienced in life.

As Retired, Navy, Seal; Senior Chief Don Shipley has shown all of us. He has methods to weed out the phony people, and confront them.

Eventually. Anyone who pretends to be a VETERAN....always gets caught, and they will keep trying as long as they feel safe...lying their life away.

FYI. I have spoken with Senior Chief. He was a Senior Chief when I spoke with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC-qQ3qWQLI

[Gunny]

Now that I have been "corrected" on my lack of reading and comprehension skills, I mis-read STTAB's post. My position is to stay as far away from "Stolen valor" arguments as possible simply because I've never seen one end well. People are going to believe what they want to. I take everyone for who they say they are unless or until it is proven otherwise.

I do not think ANYONE should be accused of stolen valor without some hard evidence to show. As it pertains to an internet message board, I find most accusations of stolen value stem from personal/political dislike and no amount of talk is going to change it.

As it pertains to STTAB, specifically, I do not recall anything specific about him. Sorry. I know that's too easy, but there you have it. I don't know his name nor anything else other than what he has posted here.

[darin]

comes down to this for me:

Claim Military service - but do-so only to bolster arguments, seek attention and grossly mispronounce common terms? Probably a big fat liar.

Become whiny about folks calling you out for using your claimed service to seek attention while you grossly mispronounce common terms? More than likely a liar.

[STTAB]

Where does this come from? Honest question. I have never done any such thing to anyone, and don't recall any such incident. I hate rats and I hate loose lips more than "hating" you was ever even a blip on the radar.

As far as the topic goes (I think we've done this one before), I have to just take it case by case. If it's actually hurting/scamming/otherwise enriching the person, then yeah, I have a problem with it.

I kinda have a problem with some of the exposeRS as well. That's what you have to do with your life? Troll frauds and expose them on the internet? I think that says quite a lot.

And I'm sorry, but the clown asses that get on with 13 Nam medals, 5 MOHs, An Army shirt with Marine chevrons on it and obviously is a total dumbass that can't even pass the test, been in every war since WWI ... I'm :laugh2: What can I say? Stupid people make me feel good :laugh:

It was not you Gunny, I thought I was clear on that. It was that idiot who hacked USMB or whatever back in the day, I don't even remember the guy's name. I just remember he somehow took over your Admin account for several days and did all sorts of shit to their server. I in no way EVER thought you were involved in anything that person did. Maybe his screen name was JBeukemia or something like that, does that ring a bell?

[jimnyc]

It was not you Gunny, I thought I was clear on that. It was that idiot who hacked USMB or whatever back in the day, I don't even remember the guy's name. I just remember he somehow took over your Admin account for several days and did all sorts of shit to their server. I in no way EVER thought you were involved in anything that person did. Maybe his screen name was JBeukemia or something like that, does that ring a bell?

I recall the incident from Gunny long long after the fact while he was here. Didn't know of any consequences, only that someone took his admin account and royally fucked things up. No such personal info should ever be stored there!

Now, of course passwords and all are available if someone can hack the site and steal the database... but really the only way to get such things would be if it were stored in PM's, or if a site related email also hacked.

If there were ever such personal info being traded, probably best to use something separate with some good encryption.

[STTAB]

Unfortunately, I've removed the usergroup images in recognition of those who have served. It was never meant to be a true verification but rather a simple acknowledgement based on someone's word. After all, we are all basically anonymous from one another.

I had never envisioned that it could ever cause any issues. But it has. And while I understand all sides over time, this isn't a military board, and since their is privacy involved, and folks don't believe me if someone verifies, I don't want to see fighting over something that was supposed to be a small token from me, to those who have served our great country.

In the past there was discussion, because of the privacy, that there could maybe be one point person allowed to do any style of the verifying. If that person won't be believed, then the privacy issue is gone. I don't blame anyone at all from not wanting to share personal details. Some folks are very open about things, including myself, but others are very private people, and I fully respect that too.

So those that have served - you have the endless thanks from me for doing so, and that still won't be enough. And I apologize in advance for this not working out, but a simple anonymous image isn't worth having extended feuds over.

Oh great another thing for a few to be mad at me about. This is clearly in response to Darin's calling me a liar. I already told you long ago that I didn't care if you put that on my profile or not, and I'm repeating now, if you want to return the image to the avatar of everyone who Darin believes and not to mine, I'm fine with that too, it's just a token after all.

[STTAB]

I recall the incident from Gunny long long after the fact while he was here. Didn't know of any consequences, only that someone took his admin account and royally fucked things up. No such personal info should ever be stored there!

Now, of course passwords and all are available if someone can hack the site and steal the database... but really the only way to get such things would be if it were stored in PM's, or if a site related email also hacked.

If there were ever such personal info being traded, probably best to use something separate with some good encryption.

Yes, I believe that is exactly what happened Jim, someone got ahold of Gunny's account and used information contained within our PMs . Specifically the information was given to the poster Syrenn who absolutely hated my guts and she DID track me down in real life, causing problems with my IP provider, calling our local sherrif's office with complaints, at one time she even contacted the Arkansas National Guard all in an effort to stir up trouble in my real life. As ANYONE who ever encountered that woman can tell you she was crazy.

To reiterate I don't now and never did believe Gunny was involved in any way

[jimnyc]

I moved your post from the announcements section. Nothing wrong, I just meant to lock it up when I created it.

[Abbey Marie]

Yes, I believe that is exactly what happened Jim, someone got ahold of Gunny's account and used information contained within our PMs . Specifically the information was given to the poster Syrenn who absolutely hated my guts and she DID track me down in real life, causing problems with my IP provider, calling our local sherrif's office with complaints, at one time she even contacted the Arkansas National Guard all in an effort to stir up trouble in my real life. As ANYONE who ever encountered that woman can tell you she was crazy.

To reiterate I don't now and never did believe Gunny was involved in any way

That’s guano-crazy stuff...

[jimnyc]

Yes, I believe that is exactly what happened Jim, someone got ahold of Gunny's account and used information contained within our PMs . Specifically the information was given to the poster Syrenn who absolutely hated my guts and she DID track me down in real life, causing problems with my IP provider, calling our local sherrif's office with complaints, at one time she even contacted the Arkansas National Guard all in an effort to stir up trouble in my real life. As ANYONE who ever encountered that woman can tell you she was crazy.

To reiterate I don't now and never did believe Gunny was involved in any way

I know of a minimum of 3 posters who have had their places of employment called over internet issues. :(

[STTAB]

I moved your post from the announcements section. Nothing wrong, I just meant to lock it up when I created it.

You know me, it's your board you don't have to explain yourself. But I meant what I said Jim. I don't want everyone mad at me over some image. Put Darin in charge of the images and let him hand them out to those he believes.

[STTAB]

That’s guano-crazy stuff...

I don't know if you ever knew her, but count yourself lucky if you didn't. She was bat shit crazy.

One of her games she used to play was she would tell everyone that I was sending her sexual PMs and then when I obviously pointed out that was untrue and that if it were true she should post one of them , she would come back with "oh I would LOVE to post one, but that's against the rules" then I would show her in the rules where it plainly said I could give her permission to post said PM on the board and that I was giving her permission, the Admin Dis would jump in and say "oh no actually the rules say an admin must approve too, and we don't approve" even though the rules did not say that. LOL Once Dis even banned ME for discussing PMs because I was responding to Syrenn's claims. It was truly bizzarre.

Gunny unfortunately for whatever reason chose to allow that kind of thing to happen , I don't hold grudges against him for it, but he sure did let them manipulate the rules to ban me repeatedly for little to no reason while allowing Syrenn to play games like the one I described above, so yeah I no longer personal details, even if it means the great Darin doesn't believe I served in the Arkansas National Guard.

[jimnyc]

You know me, it's your board you don't have to explain yourself. But I meant what I said Jim. I don't want everyone mad at me over some image. Put Darin in charge of the images and let him hand them out to those he believes.

If folks want to do the process outside of DP without my involvement, then I would be more than happy to reinstate them. It matters not to me who that person is so long as the military folks are those that decide. I'll simply be happy to provide and place the various military images. But I will not be that person, as after many many years of fights with people, I'm not one that wants to get involved in asking for proof from people, nor will everyone trust me. And I completely understand that.

[jimnyc]

I don't know if you ever knew her, but count yourself lucky if you didn't. She was bat shit crazy.

One of her games she used to play was she would tell everyone that I was sending her sexual PMs and then when I obviously pointed out that was untrue and that if it were true she should post one of them , she would come back with "oh I would LOVE to post one, but that's against the rules" then I would show her in the rules where it plainly said I could give her permission to post said PM on the board and that I was giving her permission, the Admin Dis would jump in and say "oh no actually the rules say an admin must approve too, and we don't approve" even though the rules did not say that. LOL Once Dis even banned ME for discussing PMs because I was responding to Syrenn's claims. It was truly bizzarre.

Gunny unfortunately for whatever reason chose to allow that kind of thing to happen , I don't hold grudges against him for it, but he sure did let them manipulate the rules to ban me repeatedly for little to no reason while allowing Syrenn to play games like the one I described above, so yeah I no longer personal details, even if it means the great Darin doesn't believe I served in the Arkansas National Guard.

All that took place after I sold the board and some folks came and joined here. A few of the names you mentioned have appeared here over the years but never lasted, as in likely came here looking for issues and then bailed when it failed. :dunno:

[STTAB]

All that took place after I sold the board and some folks came and joined here. A few of the names you mentioned have appeared here over the years but never lasted, as in likely came here looking for issues and then bailed when it failed. :dunno:

Yes I don't believe you were in the USMB picture when I started posting there, at least I don't recall hearing your name ever. I do remember how I got invited here, but I won't out the person and get everyone mad at them LOL

[darin]

You know me, it's your board you don't have to explain yourself. But I meant what I said Jim. I don't want everyone mad at me over some image. Put Darin in charge of the images and let him hand them out to those he believes.

Why the fuck do you think the little images matter? What matters to me is this: You claim service. You say things that indicate you never served. You then figuratively stomp your feel and feel 'offended' by my obvious disbelief. That's the issue. You flame people consistently. You "call out" people you don't agree with. I use 'allegedly' when talking about your claims and you lose your mind with all that "omg! I'm not going to post much anymore!" crying. it's beneath a veteran, any veteran...except maybe coasties. (shrug)

[jimnyc]

Issue over and thread closed - NO MORE REPLIES.