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jimnyc
07-01-2019, 02:51 PM
IMO, the democrats are so far out there in this bunch, that Joe Biden was by far their best chance against Trump, if he had a chance. But now the Dems are doing the work for him and he may not even survive to go against Trump.

And what's left is freebie heaven. Socialist heaven. Anti-law heaven. Pro illegal immigrant and then some. They want to give away enough - tax enough to put us all into oblivion. But hell, maybe they'll just forgive the national debt while their at it. :rolleyes:

Their stances, whether individually or collectively, are insane and bad for America.
Giving away licenses to illegals is NOT good for America.
Giving welfare to illegals is NOT good for America.
Forgiving student loans is NOT good for America.
Giving free healthcare to illegals is NOT good for America.
Endless things they want to give out for free, to get votes - is NOT good for America.

And Trump, if re-elected instead of any of these folks ever beating him - WOULD be a great thing for America.

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Well, Trump Just Won in 2020

I don’t know about you, but I’m feeling pretty good about the election after last week’s two-day Democratic clusterfark, and the president has got to be feeling pretty good too, since he just won it. Oh, we have 17 more months of media pimping of whichever commie candidate is currently the least embarrassing, but the debates made it very clear that Trump is going to be POTUS until Ric Grenell is on the victorious GOP ticket in 2024.

In the Dems’ defense, they do have an uphill battle. The economy is on fire, we’ve dodged all the new wars our garbage elite has proposed, Mueller (who went unmentioned) delivered only humiliation, and all 723 Democrats running are geebos. But say what you will, they are a diverse bunch in every way except thought – among the weirdos, losers and mutations onstage were a fake Indian, a furry, a guy so dumb he quotes Che in Miami, a raving weather cultist, America’s shrill first wife, a distinctly non-fabulous gay guy, T-Bone’s homie, whatever the hell Andrew Yang is, and Stevie Nicks.

But it was the thought part where they came together in a festival of insane acclamation. They agreed on everything, and it was all politically suicidal. Yeah, Americans are thrilled about the idea of subsidizing Marxist puppetry students and getting kicked off their health insurance so that they can put their lives in the hands of the people who brought you the DMV.

Exactly who, outside of Manhattan and Scat Francisco, think Americans are dying to stop even our feeble enforcement of the border, make illegal immigration not illegal, never send illegals home once they get here and – think about this – take our tax money to give these foreigners who shouldn’t even be here in the first place better free health care than our vets get? That should go well in places like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. I eagerly await Salena Zito’s interview with a bunch of construction workers at a diner near Pittsburg who tell her, “It really bugs me, Lou and Joe here that those people coming into the country illegally aren’t getting free heath care on our dime. We all want to work an extra shift so we can give it to ‘em. We need a president who finally puts foreigners first! Also, we all agree we ought to give up our deer rifles because people in Cory Booker’s neighborhood can’t stop shooting each other.” (**My reply to the above in bold - :lol: )

Even Joe Biden, who should know better, hopped onto that crazy Acela. One of the last Democrats who actually thought his party should bother with voters who have to shower after they get off work, Biden was looking bad. Physically, he appeared thin and tired and crusty – the last couple years have not been kind. Mentally, it was just sad. Joe was never going to get mixed up with Stephen Hawking, but his pathetic flailing about on stage demonstrated that he’s way too old, physically, mentally and culturally. He would have been perfectly fine up there with guys like Walter Mondale and Hubert Humphrey in 1979, but instead he was onstage in 2019 with a bunch of people who – to the extent they know who Walter Mondale and Hubert Humphrey were – think that those guys were a bunch of racist cis-het white males of privilege who can’t understand the truly important issues of today, like – as Julian Castro pointed out – free abortions for transsexuals.

Rest - https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2019/07/01/well-trump-just-won-in-2020-n2549219

Abbey Marie
07-01-2019, 06:11 PM
Hope he’s right.
“Scat Francisco” - too funny :laugh:

STTAB
07-02-2019, 11:40 AM
Don't underestimate the stupidity of the average American moron.

I saw a survey just yesterday that shows that of all the people surveyed who pay income tax fully 50% of them claimed that they are actually paying more in taxes after the Trump tax cuts, than they were before. Even though actual statistics prove that 80% of tax payers paid less in income tax than in previous years.

A quick dive into the situation reveals why this is the case. The Trump tax cuts automatically cut the amount you were paying out of each paycheck so that at the end of the year your return wasn't as big. If you actually add up the difference per paycheck with the return 80% of taxpayers are paying less in taxes, but the average American being stupid all they care about is the amount of their return. Return is less so that must mean I paid more in taxes............ Morons.

SassyLady
07-02-2019, 01:15 PM
Don't underestimate the stupidity of the average American moron.

I saw a survey just yesterday that shows that of all the people surveyed who pay income tax fully 50% of them claimed that they are actually paying more in taxes after the Trump tax cuts, than they were before. Even though actual statistics prove that 80% of tax payers paid less in income tax than in previous years.

A quick dive into the situation reveals why this is the case. The Trump tax cuts automatically cut the amount you were paying out of each paycheck so that at the end of the year your return wasn't as big. If you actually add up the difference per paycheck with the return 80% of taxpayers are paying less in taxes, but the average American being stupid all they care about is the amount of their return. Return is less so that must mean I paid more in taxes............ Morons.

I paid more because I made more and had less deductions.

People need to look at % not $.

Kathianne
07-02-2019, 08:09 PM
Um 'all democrats' are crazy, want to give to everyone but Americans. Well the extreme wing and it appears all the candidates, but most Americans? Not even close.

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/07/02/popular-idea-giving-free-healthcare-illegal-immigrants/


How Popular Is The Idea Of Giving Free Healthcare To Illegal Immigrants?
JAZZ SHAWPosted at 3:21 pm on July 2, 2019


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https://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/poll.jpg
That’s 59% opposed and 38% supporting with almost nobody who hasn’t already made up their mind. It’s a more than twenty point spread in a survey with a three-point margin of error. In other words, it’s completely lopsided and the Democrats are sitting on the wrong side of the fence.

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LongTermGuy
07-02-2019, 11:44 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-hgbV6XUAAGCYG.jpg

:laugh:....

STTAB
07-03-2019, 11:00 AM
Um 'all democrats' are crazy, want to give to everyone but Americans. Well the extreme wing and it appears all the candidates, but most Americans? Not even close.

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/07/02/popular-idea-giving-free-healthcare-illegal-immigrants/



And yet, Democrats vote for these idiots anyway, giving their approval even as they say don't approve.

Kathianne
07-03-2019, 11:07 AM
And yet, Democrats vote for these idiots anyway, giving their approval even as they say don't approve.

and yet, there are many voting for Republicans they don't agree with on some very serious issues. Enough fools for all I guess.

STTAB
07-03-2019, 11:18 AM
and yet, there are many voting for Republicans they don't agree with on some very serious issues. Enough fools for all I guess.

There is a large difference between voting for someone who holds a few opinions you disagree with because in the whole you agree with them on most issues, and voting for someone who you have zero in common with just because. And while I'm sure there are Republicans who just vote Republican, there are a LOT more Democrats who do so.

And we're talking about key issues here.

Sorry, you can't continually play the "both sides do it" card without eventually being called out, and I'm calling you out this time. Democratic voters are the dumbest of the dumb.

Kathianne
07-03-2019, 11:41 AM
There is a large difference between voting for someone who holds a few opinions you disagree with because in the whole you agree with them on most issues, and voting for someone who you have zero in common with just because. And while I'm sure there are Republicans who just vote Republican, there are a LOT more Democrats who do so.

And we're talking about key issues here.

Sorry, you can't continually play the "both sides do it" card without eventually being called out, and I'm calling you out this time. Democratic voters are the dumbest of the dumb.
I don't care if you think you're 'calling me out.' Not so long ago, I could pretty much justify the wrongs on the right, using what still seem to be good tactical calls against the left. I've found that eventually too many justifications for too serious of wrongs wasn't going to work FOR ME anymore.

I don't find the extremes of each party to be of the same size or using the same tactics. The left appears to be larger, but that may have to do with the tendency towards working in groups and employing violence. Going on the growing tendency of the right to match the left, I wouldn't be surprised to see a catching up, if you will, as the left shows little inclination to ratchet things down.

I've pretty much come to the conclusion that when it comes to the presidency, perhaps national offices in general, I have no party. Last election I could not vote for either major party's candidate, I doubt I'll be able to do so in the next election.

So, rather than issues it's 'the ideas of the Republic and Constitution' that matter more to me now. Character; for the common good; reasonable adherence to the originalism of the Founders; etc.

I'm not attempting to convince others here to share those types of parameters, I know that they don't and have their own system of deciding. I respect that.

STTAB
07-03-2019, 11:51 AM
I don't care if you think you're 'calling me out.' Not so long ago, I could pretty much justify the wrongs on the right, using what still seem to be good tactical calls against the left. I've found that eventually too many justifications for too serious of wrongs wasn't going to work FOR ME anymore.

I don't find the extremes of each party to be of the same size or using the same tactics. The left appears to be larger, but that may have to do with the tendency towards working in groups and employing violence. Going on the growing tendency of the right to match the left, I wouldn't be surprised to see a catching up, if you will, as the left shows little inclination to ratchet things down.

I've pretty much come to the conclusion that when it comes to the presidency, perhaps national offices in general, I have no party. Last election I could not vote for either major party's candidate, I doubt I'll be able to do so in the next election.

So, rather than issues it's 'the ideas of the Republic and Constitution' that matter more to me now. Character; for the common good; reasonable adherence to the originalism of the Founders; etc.

I'm not attempting to convince others here to share those types of parameters, I know that they don't and have their own system of deciding. I respect that.

Hey I totally respect that. I didn't vote for Trump. I just didn't think he displayed the right temperament for the job, but I damn sure wasn't going to vote for Hillary , so I voted for Gary Johnson because I knew he would never win, but at least it would be a vote towards a third party.

Of course had there been any chance HIllary would have won Arkansas I would have swallowed my bile and voted for Trump.

I still despise a lot of the things Trump does, but there is no denying that he actually IS trying to do what is best for most Americans. He's earned my vote in 2020.

As for Democrats, issues aside, there isn't one single "headliner" Democrat who should rationally be put in charge of anything larger than a child's lemonade stand. If my preteen children behaved the way these folks do, I'd paddle their asses.

Kathianne
07-03-2019, 11:59 AM
Hey I totally respect that. I didn't vote for Trump. I just didn't think he displayed the right temperament for the job, but I damn sure wasn't going to vote for Hillary , so I voted for Gary Johnson because I knew he would never win, but at least it would be a vote towards a third party.

Of course had there been any chance HIllary would have won Arkansas I would have swallowed my bile and voted for Trump.

I still despise a lot of the things Trump does, but there is no denying that he actually IS trying to do what is best for most Americans. He's earned my vote in 2020.

As for Democrats, issues aside, there isn't one single "headliner" Democrat who should rationally be put in charge of anything larger than a child's lemonade stand. If my preteen children behaved the way these folks do, I'd paddle their asses.

As I stated, you're 'calling me out' or anyone for whatever is your business and just does not bother me. That's about you.

I'll choose whom to vote for based on whichever candidate convinces me that what I consider important to the country, so does (s)he. I do know I'm not looking for giving away more money; making the federal government every stronger; enlarging the national debt; bellowing about how they are the best, at everything and know more than everyone. (I doubt the second coming will be running for President.)

STTAB
07-03-2019, 12:23 PM
As I stated, you're 'calling me out' or anyone for whatever is your business and just does not bother me. That's about you.

I'll choose whom to vote for based on whichever candidate convinces me that what I consider important to the country, so does (s)he. I do know I'm not looking for giving away more money; making the federal government every stronger; enlarging the national debt; bellowing about how they are the best, at everything and know more than everyone. (I doubt the second coming will be running for President.)

I wasn't "calling you out" for who you voted for ........ I would never do that. I was saying I have noticed that you like to play the "both sides do it" card, perhaps just being a devil's advocate, but in this case I was "calling out " by saying that wasn't true, both sides do not do this, the left does it.

Sorry if you thought I was being offensive. I'm trying to play nicer LOL

Kathianne
07-03-2019, 12:35 PM
I wasn't "calling you out" for who you voted for ........ I would never do that. I was saying I have noticed that you like to play the "both sides do it" card, perhaps just being a devil's advocate, but in this case I was "calling out " by saying that wasn't true, both sides do not do this, the left does it.

Sorry if you thought I was being offensive. I'm trying to play nicer LOL

My opinion on what I've been doing since the last election was underway, is noting that the 'reactionary' behaviors of the right, not just the extremists either,' is not making the civil body better, but worse. They are doing what the left has always done, but not as effectively. Practice makes perfect though.

STTAB
07-03-2019, 12:47 PM
My opinion on what I've been doing since the last election was underway, is noting that the 'reactionary' behaviors of the right, not just the extremists either,' is not making the civil body better, but worse. They are doing what the left has always done, but not as effectively. Practice makes perfect though.

Yes the right is learning from the left.

Won't be long before a racist Republican calls a non racist Democrat a racist, of course for that to happen the world will first have to find a non racist Democrat.