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Drummond
07-28-2019, 04:38 PM
Not sure if you could argue that this thread belongs under 'Religion / Ethics' (?). Ah, well ....

This happened outside Southgate Tube Station (Underground), north London .. just a few miles away from where I was born, in fact.

The individual concerned was preaching a Gospel message, when he was approached by police officers and instructed to stop. He refused. So, he was arrested .. & his Bible was taken from him and tossed into the police car.

The police had been contacted before this by a passer-by, who'd reported him for 'hatespeech'. This galvanised the police into action. He was arrested for disturbing the peace.

Newspaper report ... the link includes a video of the incident, for anyone caring to view it:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7293257/Police-arrest-preacher-64-grab-Bible-promoting-Christianity.html


A Christian street preacher who had his Bible wrested from him as he was handcuffed and taken away by police has been awarded £2,500 for wrongful arrest.

Oluwole Ilesanmi, 64, has welcomed the payout by the Metropolitan Police as a victory for freedom of speech after he had been wrongly accused of Islamophobia.

The former dentist was preaching outside Southgate Tube station in North London in February when he was approached by two officers.

A passer-by had earlier called police and accused Mr Ilesanmi of hate speech.

He admits to having described Islam as an ‘aberration’ but insists he was simply expressing his point of view as a Christian rather than denigrating Muslims.

One of the police officers claimed Mr Ilesanmi was disturbing the peace, saying: ‘No one wants to hear that. They want you to go away.’

A video of the incident taken by a passer-by shows the policeman taking the Bible away, to Mr Ilesanmi’s visible distress.

One of the officers then says: ‘You should’ve thought about that before being racist.’

He was handcuffed before the officer gave a thumbs-up to the camera. Mr Ilesanmi was then bundled into a police car and driven several miles away. There the grandfather was ‘de-arrested’ and let out of the car.

However, he was not carrying any money and it was only thanks to the kindness of a stranger who gave him the necessary bus fare that he was able to get back.

Scotland Yard has now agreed to pay Mr Ilesanmi £2,500 for wrongful arrest and his humiliating and distressing treatment.

Mr Ilesanmi told The Mail on Sunday: ‘I believe God loves everyone, including Muslims, but I have the right to say I that I don’t agree with Islam – we are living in a Christian country, after all.

The incident was captured on camera by Ambrosine Shitrit, who was passing when she saw Mr Ilesanmi debating with a Muslim man who she said was becoming aggressive.

She said: ‘The preacher was fearless, but if I hadn’t started filming he would have been attacked. He was not breaching the peace and in no way had he been Islamophobic. I would’ve been the first person to have said something if he had been.’

The case was raised in Parliament and a petition with 38,000 signatures calling for greater religious freedom for Christian street pastors will be delivered to Government next week.

The payout for Mr Ilesanmi, who moved to the UK from Nigeria in 2010 as a Protestant missionary, includes compensation for wrongful arrest and false imprisonment, aggravated damages for exceptional harm and humiliating and distressing treatment, and recognition for the potential psychological trauma experienced during the arrest.

Andrea Williams, chief executive of the Christian Legal Centre, said: ‘Despite laws that theoretically support the freedom to preach in public, in practice police officers are quick to silence preachers at the first suggestion that a member of the public is offended.’

Abbey Marie
07-28-2019, 05:15 PM
Wow. That’s awful. At least they admitted they were wrong in the end, but will that stop it from happening again?

icansayit
07-28-2019, 05:27 PM
I read yesterday, that Youtube rejected a man's attempt to post a video that used the word...."Christian". Youtube supposedly told him, using that word was offensive to others who were not Christian.

SOCIALISM is taking root almost everywhere. ORWELL's 1984 has been brewing since the first Idiot accepted POLITICAL CORRECTNESS as their Ideological method of controlling the way other humans think, speak, eat, walk, breathe, and see others as LESS than themselves.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
07-28-2019, 05:27 PM
Wow. That’s awful. At least they admitted they were wrong in the end, but will that stop it from happening again?

That treatment comes from the demands that Islam makes there. Appeasing Islam is rampant there.
And that is how Islam knows it is winning there. Britain will fall in less than 20 years-possibly in less than 15 years, IMHO..
Islam is relentless in its conquering goals. 1400 years and still going-doesnt lie.
95% of terrorism around the world is Islamists engaging in terrorism.-Tyr

Gunny
07-28-2019, 05:44 PM
I'm not really surprised this happened in the UK and can't say as I'd be surprised if it happened here. Pissed, but not too surprised.

We have oppressive heat and sunshine here that pretty much negates the trade "street preacher" :). Maybe downtown in the evening.

Drummond
07-28-2019, 08:01 PM
Wow. That’s awful. At least they admitted they were wrong in the end, but will that stop it from happening again?

Well, our law is open to interpretation. All that started, in this instance, from the police being notified of a 'hatespeech' incident.

If future complainers insist that more is done to represent them, if communities drive a mood for a crackdown ... it could get worse. With the perception that such street-side preaching carries provocation, then the notion that future such arrests are wrong, might be overturned. The law to act is already in place. The only question is, how vigorously will others insist it's applied ?

Gunny
07-28-2019, 09:33 PM
Well, our law is open to interpretation. All that started, in this instance, from the police being notified of a 'hatespeech' incident.

If future complainers insist that more is done to represent them, if communities drive a mood for a crackdown ... it could get worse. With the perception that such street-side preaching carries provocation, then the notion that future such arrests are wrong, might be overturned. The law to act is already in place. The only question is, how vigorously will others insist it's applied ?I don't think I could deal with such a law. I don't here and our crap pales in comparison to English law. I generally don't say much at all in real life, but IF you ask my opinion you're going to get it like it or not :)

Speech control is thought control. Everything you think has to run through their filter before you open our mouth.

Elessar
07-28-2019, 09:41 PM
I'm not really surprised this happened in the UK and can't say as I'd be surprised if it happened here. Pissed, but not too surprised.

We have oppressive heat and sunshine here that pretty much negates the trade "street preacher" :). Maybe downtown in the evening.

Remind you all that Al Sharpton was a racist street preacher in the 1980's in New York.

Look at what he has gotten away with....fueled by liberals.