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jimnyc
08-29-2019, 03:36 PM
She's one hell of a soccer player. And apparently one hell of a FG kicker!! I watched videos of her several times kicking 25 and 35 yard FG's and some 45's - and then she even nailed a 54 yarder! That's great for NFL standards and better than what some can do.

Of course the left if all over this wanting to see her play. A few famous players said sure, she could play. And now a few writers are against it, and they are the ones getting trashed for their sexism??

BS.

I would LOVE to see her play. I like her a lot. But she would either harm some plays - or get absolutely killed in others. If she were to kick off or kick a FG, a 220-350lb guy is liable to knock her into yet another sport. Or if players lay back, then that's not fair to the game of football. If she could do it under NORMAL circumstances, then I have zero issue with it. But unless players give her a break, she will get hammered. She needs to kick consistently, FG's and kickoffs. And also sometimes expected to make a tackle if someone gets beyond the other 10!

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A Female Soccer Player Says She ‘Definitely’ Could Play In The NFL. No, She Definitely Couldn't

At the same time that two professional football players leave the sport in the prime of their careers because their bodies can't handle the abuse anymore, a woman is planning her grand entrance. U.S. women's national soccer team star Carli Lloyd — a 140-pound, 38-year-old female — says she is considering allegedly serious offers from various NFL teams. These offers were supposedly prompted by a viral video of Lloyd successfully completing a 55-yard field goal at a Philadelphia Eagles practice. With one good field goal under her belt, she feels ready to jump into a sport where the average player outweighs her by 100 pounds and stands about five inches taller. Despite that significant disadvantage, Lloyd says she "definitely could" compete in the league.

Leftist media have predictably gushed over this news. ThinkProgress proclaimed that a female field goal kicker "would be representing women everywhere who are trying to break through barriers." The Washington Post hailed Lloyd's "brawny confidence." The Guardian excitedly wondered whether the soccer player might finally break the "glass ceiling" that has heretofore prevented women from suiting up on game day. To that point, Lloyd would certainly break something on an NFL field — but it won't be any ceiling.

Of course, we should stipulate that converting a field goal on a practice field doesn't make you NFL material any more than a hole-in-one in mini-golf makes you a candidate for the PGA Tour. You have to do it with shoulder pads and a helmet, a game clock winding down, 70,000 fans watching, and — most importantly — 11 absurdly fast and extravagantly muscled defenders rushing toward you at a literal breakneck speed.

Speaking of breaking necks, that would be the most likely fate of the first female NFL player. It seems sadly inevitable that the league will eventually cave to P.C. pressure (as it has a tendency to do) and force some poor team to put a woman on its active roster. In our enlightened area, we just cannot allow professional football to remain the exclusive province of men. But I hope for Lloyd's sake that — despite her wishes — she is not the lamb sacrificed on this particular altar of wokeness.

Kickers might not absorb as much contact as running backs and linebackers, but they wear pads for a reason. Kickers can get flattened during blocked kicks and while trying to tackle someone who recovers a blocked kick. Kickers can get dog-piled on a fumbled snap. Kickers can get pancaked by hard blocks during kick returns. In all of these cases, the people delivering the abuse are big, strong, nasty men who hit other big, strong, nasty men for a living. All the girl power in the world can't compensate for the fact that a woman's body simply isn't built to withstand these collisions. Men's bodies are hardly built for it, either, which is why NFL players often end up hobbled and brain-damaged. But they can at least survive it. For a time, anyway. Carli Lloyd cannot.

Am I saying that Lloyd is weaker, slower, and more fragile just because she's a woman? Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying. And one full speed encounter with a 275-pound blocker on a kick return would be enough to prove the point convincingly — and maybe fatally. God help the woman who must suffer that fate just to demonstrate the flaws in modern feminist doctrine.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/51184/walsh-female-soccer-player-says-she-definitely-matt-walsh

Kathianne
08-29-2019, 03:41 PM
She's one hell of a soccer player. And apparently one hell of a FG kicker!! I watched videos of her several times kicking 25 and 35 yard FG's and some 45's - and then she even nailed a 54 yarder! That's great for NFL standards and better than what some can do.

Of course the left if all over this wanting to see her play. A few famous players said sure, she could play. And now a few writers are against it, and they are the ones getting trashed for their sexism??

BS.

I would LOVE to see her play. I like her a lot. But she would either harm some plays - or get absolutely killed in others. If she were to kick off or kick a FG, a 220-350lb guy is liable to knock her into yet another sport. Or if players lay back, then that's not fair to the game of football. If she could do it under NORMAL circumstances, then I have zero issue with it. But unless players give her a break, she will get hammered. She needs to kick consistently, FG's and kickoffs. And also sometimes expected to make a tackle if someone gets beyond the other 10!

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A Female Soccer Player Says She ‘Definitely’ Could Play In The NFL. No, She Definitely Couldn't

At the same time that two professional football players leave the sport in the prime of their careers because their bodies can't handle the abuse anymore, a woman is planning her grand entrance. U.S. women's national soccer team star Carli Lloyd — a 140-pound, 38-year-old female — says she is considering allegedly serious offers from various NFL teams. These offers were supposedly prompted by a viral video of Lloyd successfully completing a 55-yard field goal at a Philadelphia Eagles practice. With one good field goal under her belt, she feels ready to jump into a sport where the average player outweighs her by 100 pounds and stands about five inches taller. Despite that significant disadvantage, Lloyd says she "definitely could" compete in the league.

Leftist media have predictably gushed over this news. ThinkProgress proclaimed that a female field goal kicker "would be representing women everywhere who are trying to break through barriers." The Washington Post hailed Lloyd's "brawny confidence." The Guardian excitedly wondered whether the soccer player might finally break the "glass ceiling" that has heretofore prevented women from suiting up on game day. To that point, Lloyd would certainly break something on an NFL field — but it won't be any ceiling.

Of course, we should stipulate that converting a field goal on a practice field doesn't make you NFL material any more than a hole-in-one in mini-golf makes you a candidate for the PGA Tour. You have to do it with shoulder pads and a helmet, a game clock winding down, 70,000 fans watching, and — most importantly — 11 absurdly fast and extravagantly muscled defenders rushing toward you at a literal breakneck speed.

Speaking of breaking necks, that would be the most likely fate of the first female NFL player. It seems sadly inevitable that the league will eventually cave to P.C. pressure (as it has a tendency to do) and force some poor team to put a woman on its active roster. In our enlightened area, we just cannot allow professional football to remain the exclusive province of men. But I hope for Lloyd's sake that — despite her wishes — she is not the lamb sacrificed on this particular altar of wokeness.

Kickers might not absorb as much contact as running backs and linebackers, but they wear pads for a reason. Kickers can get flattened during blocked kicks and while trying to tackle someone who recovers a blocked kick. Kickers can get dog-piled on a fumbled snap. Kickers can get pancaked by hard blocks during kick returns. In all of these cases, the people delivering the abuse are big, strong, nasty men who hit other big, strong, nasty men for a living. All the girl power in the world can't compensate for the fact that a woman's body simply isn't built to withstand these collisions. Men's bodies are hardly built for it, either, which is why NFL players often end up hobbled and brain-damaged. But they can at least survive it. For a time, anyway. Carli Lloyd cannot.

Am I saying that Lloyd is weaker, slower, and more fragile just because she's a woman? Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying. And one full speed encounter with a 275-pound blocker on a kick return would be enough to prove the point convincingly — and maybe fatally. God help the woman who must suffer that fate just to demonstrate the flaws in modern feminist doctrine.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/51184/walsh-female-soccer-player-says-she-definitely-matt-walsh

She may be able to kick like some specialists in NFL, but unless there's some weird camera thing going on, she looks the size of an average, athletic female. If multiple NFL males were to tackle her, I predict difficulty for her returning to play. :rolleyes:

jimnyc
08-29-2019, 03:53 PM
She may be able to kick like some specialists in NFL, but unless there's some weird camera thing going on, she looks the size of an average, athletic female. If multiple NFL males were to tackle her, I predict difficulty for her returning to play. :rolleyes:

Her size would almost be unprecedented at 138lbs, that's tiny for the NFL. I have in fact seen quite a few small players succeed in the NFL, but they were super speedy, could catch well or a specialty as well. Very few last. You get leveled by a linebacker at full speed and you're gonna have problems. I wish I could play, even in my prime of being good at sports, but even then I would have been creamed.

In addition to being naturally gifted at football, and equally gifted to nail down a specialty and be one of the best in the world to do so. But 99% of these guys are also gifted with monster sized bodies, both height and weight usually. Anything under 6' is usually small, depending on the position. But strength is another and that's a must. At least if you want to succeed, and at least be able to get out of the way and/or make a difference in joining in of course.

I find it awesome that she can kick like she does, whether soccer or football! She's got the leg. But not the size or strength.

Kathianne
08-29-2019, 04:09 PM
I just went to find the 'average size' of a female in US, I was shocked! It must be due to people that weigh like 2-300+, I seriously know not one woman that weighs over 150 or so. The article goes on about 'average' and 'healthy,' indeed. Jeez! I'm feeling like a mini person! :

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321003.php


What is the average weight for women?
Last reviewed Thu 22 February 2018 By Dan Wessels Reviewed by Stacy Sampson, DO
Average weight Ideal weight range Other factors Management Summary

Knowing if your weight is within a healthy range can be beneficial. This is particularly so in the United States, where obesity is a significant problem.
American women aged 20 years and above weigh an average of 170.6 pounds (lbs), according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Height-wise, the average adult female is 5 feet 3.7 inches, and her waist measures 38.2 inches.


While these numbers may be the average, they are not a measure of health. One of the commonly used indicators of well being is a person's BMI, which stands for body mass index.


The BMI of the average woman in the U.S. is 29.6, which falls into the category of "overweight."


Out of all American adults, more than two-thirds are deemed to be "overweight" or "obese," which represents a worrying trend for the nation's health.

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Abbey Marie
08-29-2019, 04:33 PM
If she plays, they’d better create the equivalent of a cup for boobs.
Getting hit there hurts. A lot. And I think dangerous as well.

Kathianne
08-29-2019, 04:34 PM
Okay, that got me to thinking, it wasn't always like this, right?


How much did the average woman weight in 1960?

In fact, the average American woman now weighs 166.2 pounds (That was in 2015!)— up 18.5% from the average 140 pounds in 1960, according to CDC data. This new average nearly matches that of a 1960s American man, who weighed in at 166.3 pounds. Jun 16, 2015
The Average American Woman Now Weighs as Much as a 1960s ...


https://www.goodhousekeeping.com › health › diet-nutrition › average-american-woma...

In 4 years, 4 pound increase!

Elessar
08-29-2019, 05:06 PM
I have read about her. Although I admire her skill at kicking, those kicks were not under pressure.
Her size and age are against her, too. On kick-offs, kickers are assigned to be a last ditch safety if
a returner breaks through.

As JB Books (John Wayne) said in The Shootest "In target shooting, nobody is down there shooting back".

Nice dream little lady, but unreasonable expectations.

High_Plains_Drifter
08-29-2019, 08:25 PM
She may be able to kick like some specialists in NFL, but unless there's some weird camera thing going on, she looks the size of an average, athletic female. If multiple NFL males were to tackle her, I predict difficulty for her returning to play. :rolleyes:
My thoughts precisely.

You see the kicker do the kick off and then run down field with everyone else and quite often be involved in a tackle. I can't see her hitting or being hit by a LARGE MAN, or two, or three... nope... she's going to be hurtin' for certain. The kicker NEEDS to be a full capacity player, someone large and strong enough to engage in regular play, and that includes tackling. She can't kick the ball and then just stand there, and possibly let the opposing teams runner carry the ball right past her because she's skeerd to tackle him.

STTAB
08-30-2019, 08:03 AM
That was a hell of a kick , but what is this absolute insistence that there is no difference between a man and a woman? People on FB are all over "hey small guys play in the NFL, so a girl can too" nonsense, a man in the NFL who weighs in at 150-160 lbs (and that is a small man in the NFL) has far more muscle than a woman of the same weight, that's just basic biology aka science.

And strategically she would hurt a team as well, there's no way, for example, that a team could risk a fake with her kicking because if she became a ball runner and got tackled, she really would get killed.

I have a daughter who is a great female athlete, she is the star athlete on ever girl's team she plays on, and as for speed she can outrun almost every boy in the school. But she's 5'2" 100 lbs, she would get killed playing football or even boy's basketball . And her mother and I have raised her to know that not being able to compete with the men doesn't make her any less of great athlete.

Elessar
08-30-2019, 04:09 PM
Good that you positively encourage her, STTAB

Physiological facts cannot be ignored.

We had girls make us look like monkeys in gymnastics. No hard
feelings at all!

Elessar
08-30-2019, 08:35 PM
I covered kicks and punts in HS and college.

Some of those collisions are really nasty!