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darin
09-05-2007, 03:00 PM
LMAO :) GOOD for HIM! :)

Maybe if he has more PORN, he won't PEEP so much?


SAN RAFAEL, Calif. -- A man recently jailed for secretly videotaping a woman and a teenage girl has sued a police department for the return of his massive porn collection taken during the investigation.

Dennis Saunders, 59, filed suit against San Rafael police in Marin County Superior Court after the department refused to give back some 500 pornographic movies and 250 magazines his lawyer described as unrelated to the peeping case.

"There's absolutely no legal foundation for them withholding perfectly legal adult-oriented material," Tiburon attorney Jon Rankin said.

The video collection alone was likely worth at least $10,000, Rankin said.

Saunders was arrested in 2002 and charged with taping the 45-year-old woman and 16-year-old girl in their bedrooms and bathrooms at an apartment complex where he worked. He was convicted of 48 misdemeanors and sentenced to more than eight years in jail, but was released last month with credit for good behavior.

A lawyer representing the city said authorities wanted direction from a judge on whether it would be "lawful or appropriate" to return the material to Saunders, who has a history of peeping-related arrests dating back to 1979.

"If the court orders us to give it back to him, we will give it back to him," city lawyer Thomas Bertrand said.

:D (http://www.kirotv.com/mostpopular/14050666/detail.html)
MtnBiker
09-05-2007, 03:09 PM
10,000 dollars worth of porn, holy hell!!
nevadamedic
09-05-2007, 03:10 PM
What kind of an attorney would represent an asswad like this in a case like this? :lame2:
MtnBiker
09-05-2007, 03:11 PM
One that believes in property rights.
darin
09-05-2007, 03:13 PM
I wonder if that's what Jim REALLY does with the board 'donations' ;)
nevadamedic
09-05-2007, 03:15 PM
One that believes in property rights.

Bull, there are no property rights, he obtained the videos illegally and one of them is of an underage girl. This shouldn't even be wasting the courts time.
MtnBiker
09-05-2007, 03:18 PM
Bull, there are no property rights, he obtained the videos illegally and one of them is of an underage girl. This shouldn't even be wasting the courts time.

You know the exact nature of the 500 moives and 250 magazines? How do you know he obtained them illegally, are you reading more into the story than is there?
nevadamedic
09-05-2007, 03:29 PM
Porn is sick and is for guys who cant get any action with women.
darin
09-05-2007, 03:45 PM
Bull, there are no property rights, he obtained the videos illegally and one of them is of an underage girl. This shouldn't even be wasting the courts time.

DUDE - He isn't asking for the return of the TAPES HE MADE of those women...lmao...he's asking for the 'other' porn stuff he had. :)

;)

www.rif.org :):laugh2::poke:


Porn is sick and is for guys who cant get any action with women.

What the hell? You know why that statement doesn't make sense?

#1 - Has nothing to do with the topic. It's the fallacy of ridicule.
#2 - What about WOMEN who like porn? Is it cuz they can't get action with Men? Other women?
Gunny
09-05-2007, 04:23 PM
LMAO :) GOOD for HIM! :)

Maybe if he has more PORN, he won't PEEP so much?



:D (http://www.kirotv.com/mostpopular/14050666/detail.html)


As is pointed out in the article, if the pornographic material is unrelated to the peeping case, and is legal, then it is this guy's legal property and should be returned, IMO.

Further, if it is unrelated to the peeping case, I don't see why it was seized to begin with.

I think anyone basing whether this man should have his property seized by the state because he disapproves of said property doesn't understand a damned thing about the US Constitution.
avatar4321
09-05-2007, 04:34 PM
While he is entitled to his property, I would think its this unhealthy porn addiction that caused him to go peeping to begin with. Pornography warps the brain.
Gunny
09-05-2007, 04:44 PM
While he is entitled to his property, I would think its this unhealthy porn addiction that caused him to go peeping to begin with. Pornography warps the brain.

Two separate issues. Pornography ... the Right to one's legal property.

You are entitled to your opinion about porn, but the article clearly states the police department itself has said the property is unrelated to the peeping case, so legally, they have no reason to withhold it.
avatar4321
09-05-2007, 05:17 PM
Two separate issues. Pornography ... the Right to one's legal property.

You are entitled to your opinion about porn, but the article clearly states the police department itself has said the property is unrelated to the peeping case, so legally, they have no reason to withhold it.

i never said he wasnt.
diuretic
09-05-2007, 06:34 PM
As is pointed out in the article, if the pornographic material is unrelated to the peeping case, and is legal, then it is this guy's legal property and should be returned, IMO.

Further, if it is unrelated to the peeping case, I don't see why it was seized to begin with.

I think anyone basing whether this man should have his property seized by the state because he disapproves of said property doesn't understand a damned thing about the US Constitution.

It was probably seized in order to show a propensity towards certain behaviour. If it had been a small amount the cops may not have bothered but that much (he should open a shop) shows that the bloke is definitely a bit off centre beam.

But I agree that he should now be given back his property. The state has no right to keep it.
Gunny
09-05-2007, 08:45 PM
i never said he wasnt.

My comment was made mostly to separate the two issues, not point a finger at you.
Yurt
09-07-2007, 05:19 PM
While he is entitled to his property, I would think its this unhealthy porn addiction that caused him to go peeping to begin with. Pornography warps the brain.

True, but peepers have been around far longer than porno. I saw 'back to the future' you know and well...........
actsnoblemartin
09-07-2007, 06:41 PM
The internet is for porn.

the internet is for porn, why you think the net was born, porn porn porn


My comment was made mostly to separate the two issues, not point a finger at you.
avatar4321
09-07-2007, 10:27 PM
True, but peepers have been around far longer than porno. I saw 'back to the future' you know and well...........

porn has been around longer than you think.
diuretic
09-08-2007, 03:18 AM
porn has been around longer than you think.

Yep

http://witcombe.sbc.edu/willendorf/willendorfbibliography.html

24,000 BCE