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jimnyc
11-14-2019, 12:50 PM
Nothing seemingly was new from yesterday, other than now maybe seeing some truth. Maybe not entirely, but more than before.

Will anything change my mind in all of this? Of course - show me an actual harmful crime. Folks state it's clear, yet bribery and extortion in this case didn't even exist until this past week. But if he did truly do so, and its proven 100%, then I will support it. But we're talking removing a sitting president, and that shouldn't be taken lightly. So when I say proof/evidence at 100%, I mean no circumstantial BS or hearsay without backup and what not. A ton and I mean TON was made up over the past 3 years, and most of it gone. It's as if the left wants to continually toss things at him until they can get something to stick, anything.

I don't call for removals. Didn't do so with Obama. Clinton either. And no, he wasn't impeached for a bj. :rolleyes: Either way, I didn't really support it back then. Again, I don't take it lightly, and all huge things like that set some monster precedent in the future.

I think ALL administrations use aid and other monies going to other countries, to get things in return often. Every president does it. To me, what's most important here, is what was investigated and was it legit and motive. Considering the amount of corruption coming from Ukraine and the past crap with prior administration - and then Joe's admission coming to light. IMO it's something that MUST be investigated. Whether the current president, the president prior or someone running for president - all are held accountable to the law. And I would think once seeing corruption come to light and admitted to it kinda must be investigated. What if in the background they found out about almost the same, but someone on the right running for president, and then hid it and kept it quiet.

I think it may come down to who has the best argument and better words from supporters or detractors. Either that or much more coming to light than what we know about already.

A few updates to start off the day.

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Sessions to House Dems on ‘Show Trial’ Impeachment: ‘Think Deeply About the Future of This Country’

Wednesday on Fox News Channel’s “The Ingraham Angle,” former Attorney General Jeff Sessions, a candidate for U.S. Senate in Alabama, warned of the consequences of impeachment.

He told host Laura Ingraham politicizing impeachment could be a “danger to this republic” if allowed to continue.

“This is a very serious time for America,” Sessions said. “It does not appear to me that they have the kind of evidence that would justify going forward. I called it a show trial. What’s a show trial? When you’ve decided the person is guilty and then you pretend to have a trial for show. So this is the kind of thing that I think is concerning to a lot of people. The Constitution says impeachment is not anything Congress says it is. It says it’s for conviction of treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors. Those are restraining laws in our Constitution that restrains Congress, and they need to be faithful to their responsibilities.”

“And fundamentally I would just urge our Democratic members of Congress to think deeply about the future of this country, the danger to this republic that would occur if we continue to prosecute people basically because we don’t like them or we have a political disagreement,” he added.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/11/14/sessions-to-house-dems-on-show-trial-impeachment-think-deeply-about-the-future-of-this-country/


Donald Trump Shares Favorite Moment of Impeachment Testimony

President Donald Trump did not have much time to watch the impeachment hearings on Wednesday, but he did share one of his favorite moments on Thursday, after catching up on the news.

On Twitter, Trump referred to Rep. John Ratcliffe’s moment when he asked the two hearing witnesses Ambassador Bill Taylor and Deputy Assistant Secretary George Kent whether they believed Trump’s actions were impeachable.

https://i.imgur.com/O9CJtEo.png

“Rep. Ratcliffe asked the two ‘star’ witnesses, ‘Where is the impeachable event in that call?’ Both stared straight ahead with a blank look on their face, remained silent, & were unable to answer the question,” Trump wrote.

The president said the moment proved Democrats had lost their case for impeachment.

“That would be the end of a case run by normal people! – but not Shifty!” Trump wrote, referring to House Oversight Chairman Adam Schiff.

Trump told reporters on Wednesday he was “too busy” to watch the hearings, while he was hosting Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan at the White House.

“It’s a witch hunt, it’s a hoax, I’m too busy to watch it,” he said.

The president said he wanted the so-called “whistleblower” who sparked the impeachment inquiry to come forward.

“I want to find out who is the whistleblower, because the whistleblower gave a lot of very incorrect information, including my call with the President of Ukraine,” he said, referring to the transcript of his July 25th call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/14/donald-trump-shares-favorite-moment-of-impeachment-testimony/

jimnyc
11-14-2019, 12:59 PM
A point I had not thought of. One would think that the Dems wouldn't run in head first to call a foreign leader a liar.... of course they would! :laugh:

And it's more than just him. We have statements from others over there too. The left has all the accusations lined up that sound scary, but none of them equate to a crime. Not nearly.

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Rep. Ratcliffe: To Impeach Trump, Dems Have to Call Zelensky a Liar

(CNSNews.com) - Has Ukraine President Zelensky given you "any reason to question his honesty or his integrity?" Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-Texas) asked William Taylor, who is serving as the de facto ambassador to Ukraine.

"No sir," said Taylor, who was one of two witnesses called by Democrats as part of their public impeachment inquiry, which began on Wednesday.

Using Zelensky's own words, Ratcliffe established that Zelensky was not aware of the hold on U.S. military aid when he spoke to President Trump by telephone on July 25.

Democrats recently seized on that call as the basis for impeaching Trump.

Democrats insist that Trump abused his power by bringing up investigations into Ukraine's alleged role in the 2016 election; as well as Joe Biden's public statement that he used a U.S. loan guarantee as leverage to force Ukraine to fire its prosecutor-general at a time when Hunter Biden was sitting on the board of Burisma, an allegedly corrupt energy company.

Ratcliffe recited some of President Zelensky's many statement to various reporters on October 10, "where he said repeatedly and consistently over hours and hours that he was not aware of a military hold during the July 25 call."

Rest - https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/rep-ratcliffe-impeach-trump-dems-have-call-zelensky-liar

jimnyc
11-14-2019, 01:23 PM
Yesterday had 2 witnesses. Both running on hearsay, never direct interaction with Trump. No wonder that onje of the nitwits on the left, Rep. Quigley told the audience, “Heresay can be much better evidence than DIRECT EVIDENCE.”

Oh, yeah, most of the time! :rolleyes: And now they will run a sham show based on almost just that.

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Greg Gutfeld On Impeachment: ‘Hearsay Based On Hearsay, A Bloated Spectacle’

Did you watch any of the first day of impeachment proceedings?

If not, you missed out on an embarrassing spectacle. Luckily, Greg Gutfeld of The Five watched, and he has some great commentary on the subject which you can watch below.

Here’s a partial transcript via FOX News:

Gutfeld on the impeachment circus

Prepare to get your minds blown with eye-popping testimony!

Congratulations, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., you found something that made the Mueller hearing look sexy.

A witness who witnesses nothing. Hearsay based on hearsay. A bloated spectacle designed to turn a phone call into a crime.

If only we could see this coming.

I guess they all got the same email from CNN President Jeff Zucker.

So the guilty verdict comes first, which brings us to this lame show trial. It’s aimed at ginning up public fears about the next “worst thing ever” that never happens, because this is never about what Trump has done. It’s about what he “could” do.

This whole thing is a crappy horror movie scripted by Democrats for the media, with Schiff and his bunch playing the bug-eyed zombies.

But for a horror movie to be good, we have to believe it’s at least possible. And not already know how it’s going to end.

Actually, this is worse than a horror film. It’s porn for Democrats. Remember their safe words?

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/greg-gutfeld-on-impeachment-hearsay-based-on-hearsay-a-bloated-spectacle-video/

jimnyc
11-14-2019, 01:28 PM
I am hoping so badly that Brennan gets yanked into this. Something tells me inside that he's guilty as hell, but someone in the position he's in/had will make him 'almost' untouchable. But now, with everything on the line, I think more than usual gets shaken out. I think Brennan is corrupt as hell. I think Clapper is corrupt as hell. And I think Comey is in there somewhere too.

First I think they prove that fisa warrants were issued unlawfully. I think they spied on Trump. And if they find out that he further was able to get someone inside to help get information... remember the non-stop leaks? And they never could find out who was doing it? Just makes you wonder. But proving such, about intel folks who are pros at covering their asses, easier said than done. But if people speak up with evidence then that's different.

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FORMER CIA OFFICER: Anti-Trump CIA “Whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella Was Hand-Picked by John Brennan for White House Job

As the sham impeachment inquiry continues on Capitol Hill today, new details emerged on One America News on the whistleblower Eric Ciaramella who started the entire process.

One America’s Jack Posobiec sat down with a former CIA officer Brad Johnson the president of IntelReform.org.

Johnson offered a compelling argument on how Eric Ciaramella was handpicked by former CIA Director John Brennan for his job spying on the Trump Administration in the White House.


Brad Johnson: Absolutely, he was handpicked by John Brennan to go from the CIA over the White House and the NSC, the National Security Counsel, is a White House job. And so to have make that transition it would not and cannot have been done without at least the knowledge and acquiescence of the then Director of the CIA, John Brennan.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/former-cia-officer-anti-trump-cia-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-was-hand-picked-by-john-brennan-for-white-house-job-video/