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jimnyc
01-24-2020, 05:12 PM
This was one sick scumbag and IMO deserved to die. This guy bragged about his crimes to other pedophiles. It's horrible enough that one of his victims was at least 12 years old - but the youngest victim was a damn 6 months old! One was abused while wearing a "nappy". And then when he abuses a 3 year old, he then brags that he "hit the jackpot". This is one person that truly doesn't deserve to live. He's done so much damage to the completely innocent that he can never pay for his crimes. The other prisoner should not only get an award, but then he should be released for doing such a duty for Britain, for the world.

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Prison inmate charged with murder of 'Britain's worst paedophile'

A prison inmate has been charged with the murder of “Britain’s worst paedophile”, police have confirmed.

Paul Fitzgerald, 29, was charged with the murder of Richard Huckle at HMP Full Sutton, East Yorkshire, in October 2019, according to Humberside Police.

Fitzgerald was initially arrested on suspicion of murder on January 13, after Huckle was fatally stabbed in his prison cell with a makeshift blade.

In a statement released on Friday, Humberside Police said: “Paul Fitzgerald, 29, of HMP Wakefield has today been charged with the murder of Richard Huckle at Full Sutton Prison on October 13, 2019.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/richard-huckle-murder-britains-worst-paedophile-full-sutton-humberside-police-140034748.html


Richard Huckle

Richard William Huckle (14 May 1986 – 13 October 2019) was a convicted British serial sex offender. He was arrested by Britain's National Crime Agency after a tip-off from Australian Police and convicted of 71 counts of serious sexual assaults against children while posing as a teacher, photographer and devout Christian in Malaysia.

Huckle has been described as one of Britain's worst ever paedophiles, although he was only 28 years old at the time of his arrest.[4][5][6] On 6 June 2016, he was given 22 life sentences with a minimum prison term of 25 years before being eligible to apply for parole.

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After leaving his parents' house Huckle was re-arrested and charged with 91 counts including creation and possession of child pornography, rape of a child under the age of 12, digital penetration, child abuse, and facilitating the commission of child sexual offences by creating a paedophile manual.

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The prosecution, led by Brian O'Neill QC,[5] showed evidence of a long line of crimes that started during Huckle's gap year in 2006 and continued for eight to nine years until he was apprehended in 2014. They included rape of children under the age of 12, possession and distribution of child pornography, creation of child pornography, child abuse, creating a paedophile manual entitled "Paedophiles And Poverty: Child Lover Guide", digital penetration of a child under the age of 12, and raising money for his activities via a crowd-funding website.

His victims ranged in age from 6 months to 12 years old; one was abused while wearing a nappy, and another was abused for a number of years between the ages of 5 and 12. Huckle belonged to a website called The Love Zone on the dark web, which is obscured from general discovery and only accessible by anonymised means. On the site, he shared photos of his crimes with other members. He boasted about his crimes to other paedophiles, posting such comments as "Hit the jackpot, a three-year-old girl as loyal to me as my dog and nobody seemed to care" and "impoverished kids are definitely much easier to seduce than middle-class kids". In total, prosecutors unveiled 29 victims and over 20,000 photos, but believe there could be up to 200 victims all over Southeast Asia and thousands more photos in encrypted areas of Huckle's laptop, which authorities have so far[when?] been unable to access.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Huckle

Abbey Marie
01-24-2020, 05:34 PM
Who could convict this guy?

High_Plains_Drifter
01-24-2020, 08:11 PM
I can't even comprehend how someone could be sexually aroused by a BABY. That's just one SICK, SICK, mind. A person like that has no place on this earth. Children should be protected, and given every chance to live a safe, happy life. Childhood should never be subjected to abuse. Those poor, POOR little kids. Makes me so mad to hear crap like this I could spit fire.

THANK YOU to the person that took this monster out. They should be given the MEDAL OF HONOR, not arrested. Society just drops the ball in so many cases.

But... just watch. I've said this before and I still stand by it, pedophilia will be pushed by the progressive left democrats in the future until it's accepted just as homosexuality is. I give it another 20 years.

Gunny
01-24-2020, 09:00 PM
Who could convict this guy?A British Court :)

Abbey Marie
01-24-2020, 09:34 PM
A British Court :)

:bang3::bang3:

Drummond
01-25-2020, 09:58 AM
A British Court :)

Precisely !

A British court will - possibly - acknowledge a sense of justice involved with the paedophile's murder. But, to that court, a mixture of adherence to law and political correctness will mandate conviction ... and I'm guessing that it'll be one carrying a hefty sentence, not least to send the message that adherence to law is 'all', to that Court.

I'm going to watch this story with interest. I agree, Huckle's murderer should receive all sympathy and understanding for what motivated the killing. But 'due process of law' will, I think, mandate a certain blindness to that.

We'll see.

Drummond
01-25-2020, 10:16 AM
The BBC's report about all this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-51239756


An inmate has been charged with the murder of one of Britain's most notorious paedophiles.

Richard Huckle, 33, was reportedly stabbed with a makeshift blade in his cell at HMP Full Sutton in East Yorkshire, on 13 October.

He was serving 22 life sentences for abusing up to 200 Malaysian children.

Paul Fitzgerald, 29, of HMP Wakefield, is due to appear via video-link at Beverley Magistrates' Court on 5 February, Humberside Police said.

Huckle, from Ashford, Kent, was jailed in 2016 after admitting 71 charges of sex abuse against children aged between six months and 12 years.

At the time of his arrest in 2014, the freelance photographer was compiling a manual to teach fellow paedophiles how to abuse children and avoid detection.

He had bragged online it was easier to target impoverished children in Malaysia than those from wealthy Western backgrounds.

His trial at the Old Bailey heard he awarded himself "Pedopoints" for different acts of abuse against 191 children, and sold images of his depravity on the dark web.

Gunny
01-25-2020, 07:25 PM
Precisely !

A British court will - possibly - acknowledge a sense of justice involved with the paedophile's murder. But, to that court, a mixture of adherence to law and political correctness will mandate conviction ... and I'm guessing that it'll be one carrying a hefty sentence, not least to send the message that adherence to law is 'all', to that Court.

I'm going to watch this story with interest. I agree, Huckle's murderer should receive all sympathy and understanding for what motivated the killing. But 'due process of law' will, I think, mandate a certain blindness to that.

We'll see.
I agree with everything you posted. Proper decorum in today's political climate demand a conviction. I'd shake his hand :)

We have a thing here called jury nullification. It means despite the law and evidence that say guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the jury does not convict. It is claimed by a lot of states to be illegal, but what is the state going to do? Try 12 jurors for not voting its way?

I don't know if UK has anything like that, and it is treated like a dirty word here? Chosen for jury duty? Mention jury nullification during screening and you won't be staying long :)

Drummond
01-26-2020, 07:57 AM
I agree with everything you posted. Proper decorum in today's political climate demand a conviction. I'd shake his hand :)

We have a thing here called jury nullification. It means despite the law and evidence that say guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the jury does not convict. It is claimed by a lot of states to be illegal, but what is the state going to do? Try 12 jurors for not voting its way?

I don't know if UK has anything like that, and it is treated like a dirty word here? Chosen for jury duty? Mention jury nullification during screening and you won't be staying long :)

'Jury Nullification' goes by the name 'Perverse Verdict' over here. Seeing any court produce one, in the UK, is EXTREMELY rare, but is possible. I don't think anyone would discuss its chances of ever happening, until it actually does ...

This might be of interest.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-demand-right-to-challenge-jury-verdicts-home-secretary-to-examine-papers-in-case-of-teenager-1484916.html


POLICE and MPs are demanding a right of appeal over jury decisions following the acquittal of a teenager accused of stabbing a teacher to death.

Michael Howard, the Home Secretary, yesterday asked to see papers concerning the case of Joseph Elliott, 19, who walked free from the Old Bailey on Tuesday after a jury found him not guilty of murdering Robert Osborne, a 40-year-old music teacher, of Streatham, south London.

Mr Elliott had admitted stabbing Mr Osborne with a Swiss army knife. The teacher, brandishing a hammer, confronted Mr Elliott after he slashed Mr Osborne's brother's car tyres. It was alleged in court that Mr Elliott was under the influence of drugs and drink when the incident took place.

When the not guilty verdict was announced, Mr Elliott punched the air. Mr Osborne's widow Diane said she no longer believed in British justice. The prosecution has no right of appeal against an acquittal by a jury.

Yesterday Mr Howard offered his 'intense sympathy' to Mrs Osborne but said nothing could be done in this case. The Home Office, currently reviewing the criminal justice system to maintain 'public confidence', said it would be looking to see if any lessons could be learnt for the future.

But the Police Federation called for immediate changes in the law that would undermine the jury's central role in the justice system. Alan Eastwood, the federation chairman, said: 'In our evidence to the Royal Commission on Criminal Justice we proposed that there should be a right of appeal by the Attorney General in cases where an acquittal appeared to be due to a serious misdirection of the jury by the judge or the verdict was perverse.

'We have never understood why a judge and jury can be held to be wrong when the accused has been convicted but are infallible when the accused has been acquitted.'

The federation said the current system was weighted against the victim and gave a poor message to the public. The Government should put the matter right when it legislated on criminal justice in the next parliamentary session, he said.

David Shaw, a senior Tory backbencher, said that the verdict had to be accepted but agreed the law must be reviewed. Terry Dicks, Conservative MP, said the balance had to be restored in favour of the victim. Geoffrey Dickens, Tory MP, called for the abolition of the jury system.

I haven't found anything that shows our law was changed. Still, as I say, such cases are very rare.

I found this, though, while I did my bit of research ...

https://www.lifeofthelaw.org/2014/06/jury-nullification/


Jury nullification dates all the way back to English common law. It was designed as a check and balance on the government’s power, and it has played a big role in American history. During the revolutionary war it was illegal to speak out against the British. But juries would just find the defendants innocent. And during prohibition, juries nullified to keep bootleggers out of jail.

... Seems that the existence of 'Jury Nullification' in America is thanks to the British, in the first place !

Gunny
01-26-2020, 09:39 PM
'Jury Nullification' goes by the name 'Perverse Verdict' over here. Seeing any court produce one, in the UK, is EXTREMELY rare, but is possible. I don't think anyone would discuss its chances of ever happening, until it actually does ...

This might be of interest.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-demand-right-to-challenge-jury-verdicts-home-secretary-to-examine-papers-in-case-of-teenager-1484916.html



I haven't found anything that shows our law was changed. Still, as I say, such cases are very rare.

I found this, though, while I did my bit of research ...

https://www.lifeofthelaw.org/2014/06/jury-nullification/



... Seems that the existence of 'Jury Nullification' in America is thanks to the British, in the first place !What is interesting is this "Right of Appeal" some are demanding. In other words, if the prosecution doesn't like the verdict it would have a right to appeal?

The judiciary (ours and I assume yours) is a joke of what it is supposed to be to begin with.

Drummond
01-28-2020, 08:26 AM
What is interesting is this "Right of Appeal" some are demanding. In other words, if the prosecution doesn't like the verdict it would have a right to appeal?

The judiciary (ours and I assume yours) is a joke of what it is supposed to be to begin with.

Well, it's a different subject, but your judiciary enters into politics in a way that ours never could .. ours have no such powers or authority to try (on those rare occasions where precedent is set that could ever have a political effect, this is then subject to review by our Parliament, and if needs be, the law is tightened to correct the challenge to it and overturn the legal standing of the change). Here, it is NOT the role of any tier of judiciary to determine changes in the application of any law, much less for partisan advantage, which in the UK would be an absolute outrage.

As for right to appeal by the prosecution, remember, our police have moved to get that right. They've been unsuccessful, though, to date.