Pelosi Backs President Trump’s Warnings On Huawei

[Gunny]

S'cuse me for being skeptical, BUT ...

Wonder what's in it for Pelosi?

I DID however take note of the fact that she and the President agreed on something and that I actually agreed with them on the issue. Got to be a first :)

OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 6:25 PM PT — Friday, February 14, 2020On Friday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi urged foreign nations to completely cut ties with Chinese telecom giant Huawei. At a security conference in Germany, Pelosi stated that choosing to do business with the company is essentially choosing autocracy over democracy.
Pelosi noted that Huawei is becoming more dangerous than ever as it builds its 5G network, which could bring in new business partners. She encouraged the international community to come together to create alternatives to the company.
“If you want to build a collective conscience of values and respect for human rights, don’t go Huawei,” she said. “Instead, let’s internationalize, build something together that will be about freedom of information.”
On Thursday, the U.S. filed new charges against Huawei, including the company’s alleged theft of trade secrets from U.S.-based companies.
Officials said the company’s successful efforts to steal trade secrets and technology gave it a “significant and unfair competitive advantage.” This comes just days after officials said Huawei has covert access to mobile phone networks.

Meanwhile, the deadline for U.S. businesses to cut ties with the Chinese tech company has been delayed for the fourth time. Earlier on Thursday, the Trump administration granted Huawei a temporary license to continue working with American companies for another 45 days.
The Commerce Department said a number of rural broadband carriers rely on the tech company.
Huawei was blacklisted by the administration last May after it was deemed a national security risk. The company has responded to these allegations by accusing the Justice Department of attempting to “irrevocably damage Huawei’s reputation” and business.
“The U.S. Department of Justice’s new charges against Huawei are part of this campaign, this is political persecution, plain and simple,” read their latest statement.


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https://www.oann.com/pelosi-backs-president-trumps-warnings-on-huawei/

[High_Plains_Drifter]

What the hell is Trump doing giving this filthy company an EXTENSION?

[Gunny]

What the hell is Trump doing giving this filthy company an EXTENSION?Don't know, but it looks to me like that company just called the US liars and manipulators.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Don't know, but it looks to me like that company just called the US liars and manipulators.
So... Adam ScHITt is their spokes person? ... :laugh:

[NightTrain]

I know a little something about Chinese tech and the dangers posed to us by using it.

About 12 or 15 years ago, all of the new builds & upgrades we were performing involved a Chinese switch/router that was remarkably cheap, like over $10k cheaper, and it worked very well.

Every telecom company started buying this thing and installing it into their networks.

All was well until someone noticed that these machines were sending all traffic to China, and then passed along to get to the final destination.

This included sensitive military traffic. Sure, the really important stuff was probably encrypted, but I think we all know how well encryption holds up against a determined adversary with unlimited budget and time.

Anyway, we suddenly were running around the state ripping out those routers and replacing them with American or Swedish ones, and we heard that the US Government forbade any company from using them.

Basically, it was a huge trojan horse, funded and executed by the communists to spy on the western world and gain military and industrial technology. You didn't read much about it in the news, but the telecom industry was definitely up to speed very quickly.

I have no doubt that Huawei is another attempt and I'm positive that there's backdoors built into their 5g gear. Fortunately the alarm has been sounded.

I just wonder how much Apple has been comprised by the Chinese government - I suspect the answer will be 'completely' when that story breaks.

[Gunny]

I know a little something about Chinese tech and the dangers posed to us by using it.

About 12 or 15 years ago, all of the new builds & upgrades we were performing involved a Chinese switch/router that was remarkably cheap, like over $10k cheaper, and it worked very well.

Every telecom company started buying this thing and installing it into their networks.

All was well until someone noticed that these machines were sending all traffic to China, and then passed along to get to the final destination.

This included sensitive military traffic. Sure, the really important stuff was probably encrypted, but I think we all know how well encryption holds up against a determined adversary with unlimited budget and time.

Anyway, we suddenly were running around the state ripping out those routers and replacing them with American or Swedish ones, and we heard that the US Government forbade any company from using them.

Basically, it was a huge trojan horse, funded and executed by the communists to spy on the western world and gain military and industrial technology. You didn't read much about it in the news, but the telecom industry was definitely up to speed very quickly.

I have no doubt that Huawei is another attempt and I'm positive that there's backdoors built into their 5g gear. Fortunately the alarm has been sounded.

I just wonder how much Apple has been comprised by the Chinese government - I suspect the answer will be 'completely' when that story breaks.A swerve: I believe the US Government already does the same to us. But at least it's us, right?:laugh:

[NightTrain]

A swerve: I believe the US Government already does the same to us. But at least it's us, right?:laugh:

I know for a fact that Uncle Sam has a copy of every single email and text message you've ever sent or received. The difference is that it's for security reasons instead of outright espionage.

Probably not phone conversations though, unless you're on the hot list, and then I'm 100% certain that those are recorded and stored as well.

Have you ever noticed that when some nutjob does something violent that within 24 hours the FBI has all his friends rounded up, and anyone he's been in contact with anywhere in the world identified?

That's because the major hubs are monitored and copies kept. London, Los Angeles, Seattle, etc., wherever backbones connect at major central offices.

Naturally, the vast majority is never looked at just because of the huge amount of raw data - but it's automatically collected, categorized and stored for quick retrieval when you do something stupid, and then there will be several hundred specialists combing through every aspect of your digital footprint.

A friend of mine was working at an AT&T central office in L.A. a while back, and he came in one morning to discover that there were multiple fibers running from the new equipment to the offices upstairs that hadn't been there the day before. He asked about it, and was told not to touch them because it was NSA's data collection circuits.

I don't worry about it and accept the reality, but everyone should be aware that nothing you do online is private.

[NightTrain]

This is an old map from '06, but it illustrates the chokepoints where data collection would be relatively easy.

Bribe a few governments around the world where those backbones are coming ashore with 'free' aid, rent an office upstairs, tap in, and start copying. Easy peasy!

Yeah, we are the biggest offender when it comes to that. No question.


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[High_Plains_Drifter]

CHINA is by far our biggest threat, and we're guilty of aiding and allowing them to advance as far as they've gotten.

Thankfully Trump has tried to do something about it. That's why I was shocked to hear he put a 45 day extension on Huawei. These filthy chicoms have had an open door to spy on us and steal our intellectual property for decades, and since the greed of industry prompted them to move all their businesses over there, and AGREED to GIVE THEM our tech in exchange for slave labor costs, we have FINANCED them doing it on top of it. It needs to end, like YESTERDAY.

US defence secretary warns Huawei 5G will put alliances at risk

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/15/us-defence-secretary-warns-us-alliances-at-risk-from-huawei-5g

Thankfully it appears Verizon isn't using Huawei for their 5G network, since I use Verizon. I'd have dumped them if they did.

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Verizon, however, has chosen Ericsson to provide 5G core network, radio access and transport services. Verizon is also working with Nokia and Samsung, as are AT&T and Sprint. T-Mobile has named Ericsson and Nokia as 5G vendors.

Huawei is excluded from the U.S. market by the U.S. government because of security concerns.(?) (Then what is the 45 day extension Trump gave them?) Asian operators SoftBank and SK Telecom have also eschewed Huawei as a 5G equipment supplier, but Japan’s NTT DoCoMo has conducted 5G tests with Huawei equipment, and South Korea’s LG Uplus is using the Chinese company’s base stations for its 5G network in Seoul. Recently, the company said it might consider selling its 5G portfolio to a Western competitor while maintaining its existing 5G contracts.

https://www.fiercewireless.com/5g/which-vendor-leads-5g-contracts