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jimnyc
03-22-2020, 12:14 PM
I know a few days ago I read that Elon Musk would just need the word and his company would start making them. Get them and get them done and get them out there!

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Trump Gives Ford, General Motors, Tesla ‘The Go Ahead’ To Mass Produce Coronavirus Ventilators

President Donald Trump gave multiple car companies “the go ahead” on Twitter Sunday to mass produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus pandemic.

A senior White House official told the Daily Caller Sunday that Trump had now invoked the Defense Protection Act (DPA) “to ensure that the necessary authorities will be available to prioritize production of items under government contracts and to allocate scarce items where they are needed most.”

The official said Trump is using DPA to “drive the private-sector’s response to this crisis.”

A second official categorized the private sector’s response to the president’s call as “overwhelming” and “faster than anyone thought possible.”

At a coronavirus task force press briefing, Defense Secretary Mark Esper added at the same press conference that the Department of Defense would make an additional five million N-95 respirator masks available to the Department of Health and Human Services for coronavirus mitigation.

“Ford, General Motors and Tesla are being given the go ahead to make ventilators and other metal products, FAST,” POTUS tweeted at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). “Go for it auto execs, lets see how good your are?”

https://i.imgur.com/AJtO7G1.png

Rest - https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/22/trump-ford-general-motors-gm-tesla-produce-ventilators-coronavirus/

Kathianne
03-22-2020, 02:43 PM
More good news!

1 ventilator becomes 9:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136299/Doctors-turns-one-ventilator-nine-genius-DIY-mechanics.html

Gunny
03-22-2020, 03:00 PM
Something I found iteresting at the link, but is off-topic, is this virus is in every State already. I would be interested to know how that happened to come about and no, I don't think "the coronavirus did it". Nor am I off the deep end thinking it is intentionally malicious.

My theory is inconsiderate, semi-conscious on a good day, self-absorbed idiots.

FakeNewsSux
03-22-2020, 05:58 PM
Something I found iteresting at the link, but is off-topic, is this virus is in every State already. I would be interested to know how that happened to come about and no, I don't think "the coronavirus did it". Nor am I off the deep end thinking it is intentionally malicious.

My theory is inconsiderate, semi-conscious on a good day, self-absorbed idiots.

No doubt that the idiots are doing their part but the highly infectious nature of this particular virus is what earned its' ranking as a pandemic. How many 10's of thousands of people arrived in this country in the two months from when spread began until the travel ban? I live in Atlanta, home of the world's busiest airport. How many people from Asia and Europe flew into town, hopped on MARTA, in cabs/Uber/buses. How many airport/airline workers do I run into at Kroger or at the gas station? Hell they're bringing known cases into Dobbins AFB.

It is my personal belief that at least a quarter of the US population has already been exposed to COVID-19 and I'm pretty sure I had it about a month ago. Very fatigued, muscle aches, chest congestion but never felt bad enough to miss work.
Lack of testing may have reduced panic levels initially but I believe that this data deficiency is providing cover for politicians to institute drastic economic and social restrictions under the guise of 'better safe than sorry'. I believe that a significant number of these folks are trying to protect people from a virus they have probably already been exposed to and have recovered from.

FakeNewsSux
03-22-2020, 06:06 PM
Stanford epidemiologist warns that coronavirus crackdown is based on bad data

https://www.thecollegefix.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/John-Ioannidis.Stanford_Department_of_Medicine.twitter-370x242.jpg‘Like an elephant being attacked by a house cat’
“If we had not known about a new virus out there, and had not checked individuals with PCR [virus] tests, the number of total deaths due to ‘influenza-like illness’ would not seem unusual this year. At most, we might have casually noted that flu this season seems to be a bit worse than average.”
This was not written by some right-wing crank claiming coronavirus is a conspiracy to deny President Trump a second term, or an excuse to bring down capitalism (https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-deleted-sheriff-clarkes-wildly-reckless-coronavirus-tweets-so-he-says-hes-going-to-parler).
It’s from a sobering and illuminating essay by Stanford University epidemiologist John Ioannidis, co-director of its Meta-Research Innovation Center, published in the life sciences news site STAT (https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/).
The coronavirus-driven crackdowns on public life by state and local political leaders are being made in a data vacuum, Ioannidis warns, and extreme government measures to prevent infections may actually lead to more deaths.
“The current coronavirus disease, Covid-19, has been called a once-in-a-century pandemic,” he says. “But it may also be a once-in-a-century evidence fiasco,” with policymakers relying on “meaningless” statistics based on unreliable samples:
Three months after the outbreak emerged, most countries, including the U.S., lack the ability to test a large number of people and no countries have reliable data on the prevalence of the virus in a representative random sample of the general population. …
Patients who have been tested for SARS-CoV-2 [COVID-19] are disproportionately those with severe symptoms and bad outcomes. As most health systems have limited testing capacity, selection bias may even worsen in the near future.
The one situation where an entire, closed population was tested was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and its quarantine passengers. The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from Covid-19 is much higher.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/stanford-epidemiologist-warns-that-coronavirus-crackdown-is-based-on-bad-data/

pete311
03-22-2020, 06:50 PM
Stanford epidemiologist warns that coronavirus crackdown is based on bad data

https://www.thecollegefix.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/John-Ioannidis.Stanford_Department_of_Medicine.twitter-370x242.jpg‘Like an elephant being attacked by a house cat’
“If we had not known about a new virus out there, and had not checked individuals with PCR [virus] tests, the number of total deaths due to ‘influenza-like illness’ would not seem unusual this year. At most, we might have casually noted that flu this season seems to be a bit worse than average.”
This was not written by some right-wing crank claiming coronavirus is a conspiracy to deny President Trump a second term, or an excuse to bring down capitalism (https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-deleted-sheriff-clarkes-wildly-reckless-coronavirus-tweets-so-he-says-hes-going-to-parler).
It’s from a sobering and illuminating essay by Stanford University epidemiologist John Ioannidis, co-director of its Meta-Research Innovation Center, published in the life sciences news site STAT (https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/).
The coronavirus-driven crackdowns on public life by state and local political leaders are being made in a data vacuum, Ioannidis warns, and extreme government measures to prevent infections may actually lead to more deaths.
“The current coronavirus disease, Covid-19, has been called a once-in-a-century pandemic,” he says. “But it may also be a once-in-a-century evidence fiasco,” with policymakers relying on “meaningless” statistics based on unreliable samples:
Three months after the outbreak emerged, most countries, including the U.S., lack the ability to test a large number of people and no countries have reliable data on the prevalence of the virus in a representative random sample of the general population. …
Patients who have been tested for SARS-CoV-2 [COVID-19] are disproportionately those with severe symptoms and bad outcomes. As most health systems have limited testing capacity, selection bias may even worsen in the near future.
The one situation where an entire, closed population was tested was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and its quarantine passengers. The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from Covid-19 is much higher.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/stanford-epidemiologist-warns-that-coronavirus-crackdown-is-based-on-bad-data/




The only place he can get published is a student newspaper online. Yeah, let's trust this guy. lol.

FakeNewsSux
03-22-2020, 07:16 PM
The only place he can get published is a student newspaper online. Yeah, let's trust this guy. lol.

Wow Pete! Attacking the content of an article about the research of a Stanford epidemiologist not by making a counter argument but by an ad hominem attack?! That's so unlike you. What's wrong, a touch of Chinese Originated Viral Infectious Disease-2019?