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Gunny
08-01-2020, 12:07 PM
https://www.oann.com/president-trump-on-daca-mail-in-voting-defunding-the-police/

Doing something I dislike. Posting a link without even a portion of the story. However, it is 3 topics, and has a bunch of pics and tweets in it; which, annoys me more than posting just a link :)

I think the President is missing a chance by not bumping DACA higher up on the priority list. The potential is there to beat the Dems to the Hispanic vote. Let's face it, DACA is going to happen. It's stalled long enough for the Dems to take it and run with it the second they come back into power.

There's a beginning and ending date to DACA. No one's getting rid of those people. And it really is not their fault their parents are criminals. Stay strong on illegal immigration and swallow the DACA folks. Most of them have probably been raised as American as we are and have to place to return to nor any more of a chance surviving being dumped in a foreign country than any of us.

I'm for stealing the ball and making it work. And ensuring ANY opposition from the Dems who are so "pro-DACA" is well documented and broadcast. On both sides of the border.

Black Diamond
08-01-2020, 01:18 PM
Course romney has come out in favor of mail-in voting. Why doesn't he just endorse Biden. Hell, Maybe he can petition Biden to be his running mate.

Black Diamond
08-01-2020, 01:23 PM
https://www.oann.com/president-trump-on-daca-mail-in-voting-defunding-the-police/

Doing something I dislike. Posting a link without even a portion of the story. However, it is 3 topics, and has a bunch of pics and tweets in it; which, annoys me more than posting just a link :)

I think the President is missing a chance by not bumping DACA higher up on the priority list. The potential is there to beat the Dems to the Hispanic vote. Let's face it, DACA is going to happen. It's stalled long enough for the Dems to take it and run with it the second they come back into power.

There's a beginning and ending date to DACA. No one's getting rid of those people. And it really is not their fault their parents are criminals. Stay strong on illegal immigration and swallow the DACA folks. Most of them have probably been raised as American as we are and have to place to return to nor any more of a chance surviving being dumped in a foreign country than any of us.

I'm for stealing the ball and making it work. And ensuring ANY opposition from the Dems who are so "pro-DACA" is well documented and broadcast. On both sides of the border.

It is good he is calling out the squad. Maybe make them the face of the democrats. And I don't think most Americans prefer defunding the police: especially when they find out what that actually looks like.

Gunny
08-01-2020, 01:30 PM
It is good he is calling out the squad. Maybe make them the face of the democrats. And I don't think most Americans prefer defunding the police: especially when they find out what that actually looks like.

I don't think most Americans are in favor of ANY of this clown show. Most Americans are also apparently unable to grasp the fact that We, the People, don't have a say in the matter and there isn't going to be any "turning back" once the left gets the ball rolling.

Black Diamond
08-01-2020, 01:39 PM
I don't think most Americans are in favor of ANY of this clown show. Most Americans are also apparently unable to grasp the fact that We, the People, don't have a say in the matter and there isn't going to be any "turning back" once the left gets the ball rolling.

Sounds like Donald could turn this election into a red wave if he plays his cards right.

Far as the left goes, they are creating chaos. If that gets magnified, which would happen should Biden and his radical veep pick win...
I don't think chaos can last forever. That's when dictators emerge.

Gunny
08-01-2020, 01:52 PM
Sounds like Donald could turn this election into a red wave if he plays his cards right.

Far as the left goes, they are creating chaos. If that gets magnified, which would happen should Biden and his radical veep pick win...
I don't think chaos can last forever. That's when dictators emerge.Sure. I think it is possible, and nothing would make me happier except to stun the Nation and take complete control of Congress as well. Which, would make sense to me.

IMO, he's just not playing the right cards right.

On the other hand, I don't see the chaos escalating with a Dem win. I see it escalating with a Trump win. Especially if he keeps the Senate. It'll just be more of the same.

With a Dem win, I see the Dems telling their rabble rousers to behave and most of them doing so. Those that don't, will get the Elian gonzales/Weaver/Koresh treatment and be dealt with harshly and swiftly. The Dems tolerate NO dissension. Especially from their own.

jimnyc
08-01-2020, 02:15 PM
Mail in voting is going to be an issue, guaranteed. Democrats will have you believe that voter fraud is non-existent, as they let a young white guy go in and vote as Eric Holder without ID. :rolleyes::laugh:


Came across this article from earlier this year. 28 million missing votes in one decade. And now this year, they will undoubtedly try to take advantage.

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28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections

Between 2012 and 2018, 28.3 million mail-in ballots remain unaccounted for, according to data from the federal Election Assistance Commission. The missing ballots amount to nearly one in five of all absentee ballots and ballots mailed to voters residing in states that do elections exclusively by mail.

States and local authorities simply have no idea what happened to these ballots since they were mailed – and the figure of 28 million missing ballots is likely even higher because some areas in the country, notably Chicago, did not respond to the federal agency’s survey questions. This figure does not include ballots that were spoiled, undeliverable, or came back for any reason.

Rest - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143 033.html#!

That lead me to the study:


More Than 2 Million Ballots Also Sent to Wrong Addresses

(INDIANAPOLIS, IN.) – April 13, 2020: The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) today released a research brief detailing national figures for mail balloting failures, according to previous federal surveys.

Roughly 1 in 5 ballots never completed the mail voting process in the past decade.

“Putting the election in the hands of the United States Postal Service would be a catastrophe. Over the recent decade, there were 28 million missing and misdirected ballots,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said. “These represent 28 million opportunities for someone to cheat. Absentee ballot fraud is the most common; the most expensive to investigate; and can never be reversed after an election. The status quo was already bad for mail balloting. The proposed emergency fix is worse.”

PILF relied on U.S. Election Assistance Commission survey data to compile national figures regarding mail ballot errors. The federal surveys reflect the 2012, 2014, 2016, and 2018 General Elections.

The EAC defines “unknown” ballots as those that “were not returned by voter, spoiled, returned as undeliverable, or otherwise unable to be tracked by your office.”

Summary of Findings – 2012 thru 2018

Total Ballots Transmitted – 146,371,771

Number of Ballots Official Marked “Unknown” After Mailing – 28,359,530

Undeliverable Ballots – 2,147,987

Rejected Ballots upon Receipt – 1,275,924

https://publicinterestlegal.org/blog/report-28-million-mail-ballots-went-missing-in-past-decade/


Then saw a few more eye openers:

Florida’s Voter Rolls Portend Disaster for Mail-In Voting

TAMPA — As America’s most prized presidential battleground state and a focal point for increased voter turnout, Florida is ill-prepared for mail-in voting according to a new scathing report published The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF). Unveiled today, the analysis found that Florida’s flawed voter rolls include widespread deceased and duplicate registrants, potential for double voting, and registrants with non-residential addresses.

“Florida’s concerning registered voter lists paired with the expected surge in vote-by-mail this fall is like watching a high-speed train collision occur in slow motion,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said. “As a must win state for both political parties, Florida’s history with election integrity, ballot counting and voter rolls makes it particularly vulnerable to potential errors and fraud as we near Election Day. Our report’s findings will hopefully spur action by election supervisors and officials across the state to protect the integrity of the coming elections.”

Due to potential health risks posed by COVID-19, many Americans are expected to forgo their local polling precincts and choose mail-in-voting this fall to cast their ballots. The Florida report is part of a larger PILF project that collected and standardized 42 states’ voter data and marks the first of several state reports to be published in the coming weeks.

Key findings from “Is Florida Ready for the 2020 Elections” report include:

Deceased registrants — South Florida dominates in terms of deceased registrants remaining on the voter rolls, with Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade among the top counties. As of October 2019:
Palm Beach: 3,656 deceased voters on list and 139 votes cast by deceased voters.
Broward: 3,339 deceased voters on list and 10 votes cast by deceased voters.
Miami-Dade: 2,323 deceased voters on list and 45 votes cast by deceased voters.
Hillsborough: 1,121 deceased voters on list and nine votes cast by deceased voters.
Orange: 1,000 deceased voters on list and nine votes cast by deceased voters.
Non-residential addresses –Nationally, during the 2018 General Election, 35,800 ballots were cast in 41 states, including Florida, from non-residential addresses. Florida was among the top ten states with 1,267 registrants on the voter roll who were later determined to either not have a residence anywhere in the state, or who were simply made up.
Double voting – 1,836 Floridians’ records indicate that they voted twice in a national election with a second vote being cast in a different state.

Rest - https://publicinterestlegal.org/blog/new-report-floridas-voter-rolls-portend-disaster-for-mail-in-voting/


Thousands of North Carolina Registrants are Credited for Voting Twice by Mail

(GREENSBORO, N.C.) – July 9, 2020: The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF)’s amicus brief filed in a federal lawsuit to strip North Carolina’s mail voter protections in 2020 was accepted by the court Wednesday.

The Foundation’s brief outlines how even with the modest integrity mechanisms in place, public election records demonstrate how duplicated voter registrants are credited for voting second ballots in a widespread pattern across the 2016 and 2018 General Elections.

Individual records show a substantial portion of credited second votes derive from a duplicated registrant apparently casting two absentee ballots for the same election. Stripped protections atop substandard voter rolls could only exacerbate these patterns in 2020.

“This is a widespread concern in North Carolina,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said. “We should be talking about how to strengthen our systems against misdeeds done out of the sight of election officials in 2020 instead of defending an imperfect system from total ruin. The plaintiffs are only raising the threat of worsening the settled fact that voter fraud is most common in the mail.”

North Carolina Voter Roll Audit Quick Facts

— # Apparently Duplicated Registrants Credited for 2nd Votes in 2016 General: 9,700

— # Apparently Duplicated Registrants Credited for Casting TWO Mail Ballots in 2016G: 5,000

— # Apparently Duplicated Registrants Credited for 2nd Votes in 2018 General: 7,000

— # Apparently Duplicated Registrants Credited for Casting TWO Mail Ballots in 2018G: 2,900

Rest - https://publicinterestlegal.org/blog/thousands-of-north-carolina-registrants-are-credited-for-voting-twice-by-mail/


And then landed here at Heritage. - https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Get to visit by state, and then click the down arrows next to names to read the crime and disposition. No fraud my ass!

Gunny
08-01-2020, 02:43 PM
Mail in voting is going to be an issue, guaranteed. Democrats will have you believe that voter fraud is non-existent, as they let a young white guy go in and vote as Eric Holder without ID. :rolleyes::laugh:


Came across this article from earlier this year. 28 million missing votes in one decade. And now this year, they will undoubtedly try to take advantage.

---

28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections

Between 2012 and 2018, 28.3 million mail-in ballots remain unaccounted for, according to data from the federal Election Assistance Commission. The missing ballots amount to nearly one in five of all absentee ballots and ballots mailed to voters residing in states that do elections exclusively by mail.

States and local authorities simply have no idea what happened to these ballots since they were mailed – and the figure of 28 million missing ballots is likely even higher because some areas in the country, notably Chicago, did not respond to the federal agency’s survey questions. This figure does not include ballots that were spoiled, undeliverable, or came back for any reason.

Rest - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143 033.html#!

That lead me to the study:


More Than 2 Million Ballots Also Sent to Wrong Addresses

(INDIANAPOLIS, IN.) – April 13, 2020: The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) today released a research brief detailing national figures for mail balloting failures, according to previous federal surveys.

Roughly 1 in 5 ballots never completed the mail voting process in the past decade.

“Putting the election in the hands of the United States Postal Service would be a catastrophe. Over the recent decade, there were 28 million missing and misdirected ballots,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said. “These represent 28 million opportunities for someone to cheat. Absentee ballot fraud is the most common; the most expensive to investigate; and can never be reversed after an election. The status quo was already bad for mail balloting. The proposed emergency fix is worse.”

PILF relied on U.S. Election Assistance Commission survey data to compile national figures regarding mail ballot errors. The federal surveys reflect the 2012, 2014, 2016, and 2018 General Elections.

The EAC defines “unknown” ballots as those that “were not returned by voter, spoiled, returned as undeliverable, or otherwise unable to be tracked by your office.”

Summary of Findings – 2012 thru 2018

Total Ballots Transmitted – 146,371,771

Number of Ballots Official Marked “Unknown” After Mailing – 28,359,530

Undeliverable Ballots – 2,147,987

Rejected Ballots upon Receipt – 1,275,924

https://publicinterestlegal.org/blog/report-28-million-mail-ballots-went-missing-in-past-decade/


Then saw a few more eye openers:

Florida’s Voter Rolls Portend Disaster for Mail-In Voting

TAMPA — As America’s most prized presidential battleground state and a focal point for increased voter turnout, Florida is ill-prepared for mail-in voting according to a new scathing report published The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF). Unveiled today, the analysis found that Florida’s flawed voter rolls include widespread deceased and duplicate registrants, potential for double voting, and registrants with non-residential addresses.

“Florida’s concerning registered voter lists paired with the expected surge in vote-by-mail this fall is like watching a high-speed train collision occur in slow motion,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said. “As a must win state for both political parties, Florida’s history with election integrity, ballot counting and voter rolls makes it particularly vulnerable to potential errors and fraud as we near Election Day. Our report’s findings will hopefully spur action by election supervisors and officials across the state to protect the integrity of the coming elections.”

Due to potential health risks posed by COVID-19, many Americans are expected to forgo their local polling precincts and choose mail-in-voting this fall to cast their ballots. The Florida report is part of a larger PILF project that collected and standardized 42 states’ voter data and marks the first of several state reports to be published in the coming weeks.

Key findings from “Is Florida Ready for the 2020 Elections” report include:

Deceased registrants — South Florida dominates in terms of deceased registrants remaining on the voter rolls, with Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade among the top counties. As of October 2019:
Palm Beach: 3,656 deceased voters on list and 139 votes cast by deceased voters.
Broward: 3,339 deceased voters on list and 10 votes cast by deceased voters.
Miami-Dade: 2,323 deceased voters on list and 45 votes cast by deceased voters.
Hillsborough: 1,121 deceased voters on list and nine votes cast by deceased voters.
Orange: 1,000 deceased voters on list and nine votes cast by deceased voters.
Non-residential addresses –Nationally, during the 2018 General Election, 35,800 ballots were cast in 41 states, including Florida, from non-residential addresses. Florida was among the top ten states with 1,267 registrants on the voter roll who were later determined to either not have a residence anywhere in the state, or who were simply made up.
Double voting – 1,836 Floridians’ records indicate that they voted twice in a national election with a second vote being cast in a different state.

Rest - https://publicinterestlegal.org/blog/new-report-floridas-voter-rolls-portend-disaster-for-mail-in-voting/


Thousands of North Carolina Registrants are Credited for Voting Twice by Mail

(GREENSBORO, N.C.) – July 9, 2020: The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF)’s amicus brief filed in a federal lawsuit to strip North Carolina’s mail voter protections in 2020 was accepted by the court Wednesday.

The Foundation’s brief outlines how even with the modest integrity mechanisms in place, public election records demonstrate how duplicated voter registrants are credited for voting second ballots in a widespread pattern across the 2016 and 2018 General Elections.

Individual records show a substantial portion of credited second votes derive from a duplicated registrant apparently casting two absentee ballots for the same election. Stripped protections atop substandard voter rolls could only exacerbate these patterns in 2020.

“This is a widespread concern in North Carolina,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said. “We should be talking about how to strengthen our systems against misdeeds done out of the sight of election officials in 2020 instead of defending an imperfect system from total ruin. The plaintiffs are only raising the threat of worsening the settled fact that voter fraud is most common in the mail.”

North Carolina Voter Roll Audit Quick Facts

— # Apparently Duplicated Registrants Credited for 2nd Votes in 2016 General: 9,700

— # Apparently Duplicated Registrants Credited for Casting TWO Mail Ballots in 2016G: 5,000

— # Apparently Duplicated Registrants Credited for 2nd Votes in 2018 General: 7,000

— # Apparently Duplicated Registrants Credited for Casting TWO Mail Ballots in 2018G: 2,900

Rest - https://publicinterestlegal.org/blog/thousands-of-north-carolina-registrants-are-credited-for-voting-twice-by-mail/


And then landed here at Heritage. - https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Get to visit by state, and then click the down arrows next to names to read the crime and disposition. No fraud my ass!They're going to try. Remember the military mail-in votes in 90 Gore tried to have thrown out while any scratch on the paper was obviously a vote for him:rolleyes:?

The fraud is nothing new for the left. The Dems are fraudulent starting with their title and everything after. We have seen daily for a couple of months + just how far the Dems are willing to go for power and control. This has got to be THE biggest political hissy fit since the 1850s. Just blatant, in your face, "yes, we are lying, cheating, willing to destroy the Nation rather than lose and fuck you" at every turn.

I'm for paper ballots and no ID-no vote. Legitimate, out-of-state people can mail-in vote the way they always have. It's a pain in the ass and time-consuming and takes some responsibility on the part of absentee voters.

But if you can attend a BLM protest, or a Marxist city take-over, or even go hang out in Wal Mart, your ass can put on a mask, carry some hand sanitizer and go vote. That last being the scary part because the responsible people that take the virus seriously are the ones more likely to stay home.