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jimnyc
10-06-2020, 07:15 AM
Well, even with their usual misleading in polling, not good polling all around. Was the same in 2016 - but was anywhere from a 3-7 point lead for Clinton and she lost. But 14 is a tad higher. And it's 8.5 nationally if you go by RCP.

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NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll that Shows Biden Leads Trump by 14 Points Oversampled Democrats

The NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll released on Sunday that shows Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden with a 14 point lead in the national popular vote over President Donald Trump, 53 percent to 39 percent, significantly oversampled Democrats.

The poll of 800 registered voters was conducted between September 30 and October 1 and has a margin of error of 3.46 percent.

Thirty-five percent of poll respondents self-identified as Democrats, while only 27 percent self-identified as Republican, and 32 percent self-identified as Independents, resulting in a survey sample that was Democrat +8, a significantly higher sampling of Democrats than measured in the most recent national Gallup Poll of party affiliation. That poll, (conducted between August 31 and Sept 13), found that 29 percent of Americans self-identified as Republican, 30 percent self-identified as Democrat, and 40 percent self-identified as Independents, resulting in an actual national partisan breakdown of Democrat +1.

In other words, the NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll includes five percent more Democrats and two percent fewer Republicans than the actual national population, for a net oversampling of Democrats of seven percent.

In contrast, the IBD/TIPP Poll released on Friday, which shows Biden with just a three point lead over Trump–within the poll’s margin of error–was taken from a weighted sample of likely voters with a partisan breakdown of Democrat +1, the same as September 2020 national Gallup Poll of party affiliation of Democrat +1. Forty percent of poll respondents were Democrats, 39 percent were Republican, and 20 percent were Independents.

Similarly, the Sunday Express/Democracy Institute Poll released on Saturday that shows Trump with a one point lead over Biden has a national turnout model of 37 percent Democrat and 35 percent Republican, or Democrat +2.

The Real Clear Politics Average of Polls currently shows Biden with an 8.5 point lead over President Trump with a month to go until the election on November 3.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/05/nbc-wall-street-journal-poll-that-shows-biden-leads-trump-by-14-points-oversampled-democrats/

Kathianne
10-06-2020, 09:19 AM
It seems to me that while the dems and media have gone totally unhinged since the announcement, truly ghoulish, unfortunately so has the administration. Too much deception, that informed people can see through.

It it seems he was not testing as he’d said previously.
It seems he had positive results and continued on for hours, likely infecting others.

It appears he bullied docs into not reporting bad news and over emphasizing good.

He shows tendencies towards more of these behaviors going forward.

All this doesn’t change my mind at this point, as my reasoning is dependent on the opposition behaviors, I am not surprised at the man’s behavior, it’s what I expect.

Unfortunately all data reported points to covid being a problem for Trump.

aboutime
10-06-2020, 05:14 PM
Better known as PURE B.S. !

Kathianne
10-06-2020, 05:47 PM
Better known as PURE B.S. !

Actually not all. They may spin in worst light, but it is what it is.

LongTermGuy
10-06-2020, 08:23 PM
`Fake polls destroy media credibility`

The purveyors of fake news at CNN are convinced, just as they were four years ago, that they have this presidential election in the bag. Donald Trump is done, and Joe Biden is headed for a landslide, just like Hillary Clinton was.

At this point, they have zero credibility left.

As before, CNN’s confidence is severely misplaced — and we’re going to prove it. The best evidence they can present are polls that suffer from exactly the same flaws as the ones that indicated a landslide victory for Clinton in 2016.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/fake-polls-destroy-media-credibility

https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/us-news/donald-trump-democrats-practicing-massive-disinformation-campaign-i.html



"Fraud': Mainstream polls use 29% more Democrats than Republicans"
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fraud-mainstream-polls-use-29-more-democrats-than-republicans


"Joe Biden buoyed by fake polls, false reporting"


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/18/joe-biden-buoyed-by-fake-polls-false-reporting/