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10-12-2020, 04:53 PM
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Biden Claim of Being ‘Raised’ in Black Church Doesn’t Hold up to Scrutiny
Joe Biden’s disturbing habit of telling audacious lies about his biography took another hit this week when the Washington Free Beacon discovered no one can remember Biden attending a black church he claims to have attended at a teen.
On the campaign trail, Biden has claimed he was “raised” in a black church.
Last year, he said, “I got raised in the black church. We would go sit in Rev. Herring’s church, sit there before we’d go out, and try to change things when I was a kid in college and in high school.”
“I have a lot of black support because that’s where I come from. I was raised in the black church, politically, not a joke,” Biden told the NAACP in January.
The Rev. Herring in the first quote is Rev. Otis Herring, which means the church Biden referred to is the Union Baptist Church in Wilmington, DE. Herring died in 1996, but the Washington Free Beacon reached out to longtime members and they say Biden was not there.
This includes Phyllis Drummond, who, according to the Free Beacon, was “Herring’s longtime assistant who attended Union Baptist for 39 years.” While she was not a member of the church during the time in question, she does not believe “Biden attended at that time.”
“No. Not at our building. I think he was probably in Claymont, [Del.,] [or] in Pennsylvania then,” she told the Free Beacon.
“Juanita Matthew, who joined Union Baptist in the 1970s and has run its affiliated day-care center for decades, said she wasn’t aware of Biden’s attendance as a teenager,” the Free Beacon adds.
Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King has also raised doubts about Biden’s dubious claim of being “raised” in Herring’s black church. Here’s what he claims to have found: [emphasis added]
The Reverend Herring speaks of there is the late legendary Reverend Otis Herring of Union Baptist Church in Wilmington. Other times this year when Biden tells this story he says he’d leave mass and go to the late Reverend Maurice Moyer’s church. I spoke to former members of their churches, as well as people close to both families. Neither stories are true. Joe Biden met both of these men much later in life and only learned about their great work in retrospect. Reverends Herring and Moyer were revered in Delaware and Joe Biden is abusing their names and deaths by falsely claiming they were his mentors in 1960. They were not. [B]Four different people in Wilmington expressed to me that these claims of Biden are so outrageous and dishonest that it caused them to truly worry for his mental health. - My comment - admittedly this is the prick who is white and passing himself off as black. Not to say his info isn't true...
Over the years, Biden has spun more tales than NBC News anchor Brian Williams. Tales that have either been debunked or impossible to verify.
Biden claimed to have marched for Civil Rights. He didn’t.
Biden claimed to have graduated at the top of his law class. He graduated near the bottom — number 76 out of 85 students.
Biden claimed to be the first person in his family to go to college. He wasn’t.
Biden claimed he attended college on a full academic scholarship. He didn’t.
Biden claimed he graduated with three degrees. He graduated with one.
Biden claimed he immediately opposed the Iraq War. He didn’t.
Biden claimed he called Slobodan Milosevic a “war criminal” to his face. He didn’t.
Biden claimed the Obama administration did not pull illegal alien children in “cages.” They did. - typo, should state put not pull
Biden claimed his wife and daughter were killed by a drunk driver. The driver was not only sober, he was not responsible for the accident. According to investigators, Biden’s late wife drove into the path of the other driver. - This is the worst. The others he is bad enough, embellishing his background and upbringing. But this one is rather disgusting. It is rather unfortunate and sad that Joe had to lose his wife and one year old daughter, Naomi, in this car accident. His 2 sons were both hospitalized. His wife pulled away from a stop sign, and a tractor trailer had to swerve to try and avoid hitting her car but was unable to. He was the first to get out and be on scene trying to help. Unfortunately, the above named 2 passed away instantly. -- But according to Joe Biden, starting in the early 2000's at minimum, he traveled the nation and used the story to gain sympathy for himself, and to declare many many times in many many ways that the driver "drank his lunch" and how his family was destroyed by a drunk driver. But the man was not drunk. No charges and no evidence to that effect at all. And he also died in 1999 and was now no longer able to defend himself. And yet FB (below) is removing posts if you claim he lied about that?
Biden claimed a helicopter he was flying in was “forced down” when touring Afghanistan near where bin Laden was supposedly holed up. The helicopter landed to wait out a snowstorm.
Biden said he was a coalminer. He wasn’t.
Biden claimed he was “shot at” in Iraq. He wasn’t.
Joe Biden claimed he was arrested in South Africa. He wasn’t.
Biden claims he won’t raise middle class taxes or confiscate guns. You believe him?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/12/nolte-biden-claim-of-being-raised-in-black-church-doesnt-hold-up-to-scrutiny/
Social media posts are making claims about a Biden family tragedy. Here are the facts
Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has endured several major losses since he stepped into political life. In 2015, His eldest son, Beau Biden, died of cancer. More than four decades earlier, a car crash killed his first wife and daughter.
Biden and his second wife, Jill Biden, have discussed the tragedy publicly. But recent social media posts question how the incident has been framed.
"Biden said his first wife was killed by a drunken driver," one post says. "Fact check: Wife ran a stop sign and driver that hit her was NOT Drunk."
This post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
Here’s what we know.
On Dec. 18, 1972, Joe Biden’s wife, Neilia, and their young daughter Naomi, who was known as Amy, were killed in a collision with a tractor-trailer in Hockessin, Del. Beau Biden and Joe Biden’s younger son, Hunter, were injured. Biden was in Washington at the time of the collision, interviewing prospective staff members.
Numerous news reports indicate Neilia Biden was pulling away from a stop sign — not "running" a stop sign — when the collision occurred. Early news stories also did not describe the other driver as being drunk.
The day after the crash, the Associated Press reported that police said the Chevrolet station wagon Neilia Biden was driving "pulled from a stop sign" and was struck on the left side by a truck. The station wagon continued moving for "approximately 150 feet, spinning around, going backwards down an embankment and striking three trees."
In a story from August 2020, The News Journal in Delaware said Neilia Biden was driving west on Valley Road, a then-rural road in Hockessin, around 2:30 p.m. on Dec. 18. Her station wagon "pulled away from the stop sign" at an intersection when she was struck by the front side of the tractor-trailer being driven by Curtis Dunn, who was on his way home to Pennsylvania.
Investigators found that alcohol didn’t play a role in the crash, according to a 2008 News Journal story. Dunn, who died in 1999, was not charged. But, the paper reported, Biden has suggested that Dunn was intoxicated when the crash occurred. - sure, he suggested that all the way from Washington.
In 2007, Biden, then the vice presidential nominee, said that a "guy who allegedly … drank his lunch" drove the truck that collided with Neilia Biden’s car. A clip from 2001 showed Biden describing the incident and saying the driver "stopped to drink instead of drive."
Dunn’s family disputed the characterization and a spokesman for Biden said in 2008 that Biden "fully accepts the Dunn family’s word that these rumors were false."
We haven’t found any instances since then of Biden suggesting that Dunn was drunk.
The newspaper also quoted Jerome Herlihy, then a Delaware Superior Court judge who was chief deputy attorney general and worked with crash investigators in 1972.
"The rumor about alcohol being involved by either party, especially the truck driver, is incorrect," Herlihy said. "If it were some part of a cause of the accident, there would have been a charge, simply because if you’re driving under the influence and kill someone in the process — whether it’s the wife of a U.S. senator or anybody else — there’s going to be a charge."
Pamela Hamill, Dunn’s daughter, has said that her father didn’t drink any alcohol the day of the crash and was haunted by its memory for years.
"He grieved over that," she said in an interview with CBS News.
Herlihy also said that investigators discussed several possible causes for the crash, including that Neilia Biden turned her head and didn’t see the truck as she turned, the News Journal said.
The police file for the crash no longer exists but, Politico reported in 2019, "coverage in the newspapers at the time made clear that fault was not in question. For whatever reason, Neilia Biden, who was holding the baby, ended up in the right of way of Dunn’s truck coming down a long hill." She had a stop sign and Dunn did not, Herlihy said.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/oct/04/social-media-posts-are-making-claims-about-biden-f/
Biden Claim of Being ‘Raised’ in Black Church Doesn’t Hold up to Scrutiny
Joe Biden’s disturbing habit of telling audacious lies about his biography took another hit this week when the Washington Free Beacon discovered no one can remember Biden attending a black church he claims to have attended at a teen.
On the campaign trail, Biden has claimed he was “raised” in a black church.
Last year, he said, “I got raised in the black church. We would go sit in Rev. Herring’s church, sit there before we’d go out, and try to change things when I was a kid in college and in high school.”
“I have a lot of black support because that’s where I come from. I was raised in the black church, politically, not a joke,” Biden told the NAACP in January.
The Rev. Herring in the first quote is Rev. Otis Herring, which means the church Biden referred to is the Union Baptist Church in Wilmington, DE. Herring died in 1996, but the Washington Free Beacon reached out to longtime members and they say Biden was not there.
This includes Phyllis Drummond, who, according to the Free Beacon, was “Herring’s longtime assistant who attended Union Baptist for 39 years.” While she was not a member of the church during the time in question, she does not believe “Biden attended at that time.”
“No. Not at our building. I think he was probably in Claymont, [Del.,] [or] in Pennsylvania then,” she told the Free Beacon.
“Juanita Matthew, who joined Union Baptist in the 1970s and has run its affiliated day-care center for decades, said she wasn’t aware of Biden’s attendance as a teenager,” the Free Beacon adds.
Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King has also raised doubts about Biden’s dubious claim of being “raised” in Herring’s black church. Here’s what he claims to have found: [emphasis added]
The Reverend Herring speaks of there is the late legendary Reverend Otis Herring of Union Baptist Church in Wilmington. Other times this year when Biden tells this story he says he’d leave mass and go to the late Reverend Maurice Moyer’s church. I spoke to former members of their churches, as well as people close to both families. Neither stories are true. Joe Biden met both of these men much later in life and only learned about their great work in retrospect. Reverends Herring and Moyer were revered in Delaware and Joe Biden is abusing their names and deaths by falsely claiming they were his mentors in 1960. They were not. [B]Four different people in Wilmington expressed to me that these claims of Biden are so outrageous and dishonest that it caused them to truly worry for his mental health. - My comment - admittedly this is the prick who is white and passing himself off as black. Not to say his info isn't true...
Over the years, Biden has spun more tales than NBC News anchor Brian Williams. Tales that have either been debunked or impossible to verify.
Biden claimed to have marched for Civil Rights. He didn’t.
Biden claimed to have graduated at the top of his law class. He graduated near the bottom — number 76 out of 85 students.
Biden claimed to be the first person in his family to go to college. He wasn’t.
Biden claimed he attended college on a full academic scholarship. He didn’t.
Biden claimed he graduated with three degrees. He graduated with one.
Biden claimed he immediately opposed the Iraq War. He didn’t.
Biden claimed he called Slobodan Milosevic a “war criminal” to his face. He didn’t.
Biden claimed the Obama administration did not pull illegal alien children in “cages.” They did. - typo, should state put not pull
Biden claimed his wife and daughter were killed by a drunk driver. The driver was not only sober, he was not responsible for the accident. According to investigators, Biden’s late wife drove into the path of the other driver. - This is the worst. The others he is bad enough, embellishing his background and upbringing. But this one is rather disgusting. It is rather unfortunate and sad that Joe had to lose his wife and one year old daughter, Naomi, in this car accident. His 2 sons were both hospitalized. His wife pulled away from a stop sign, and a tractor trailer had to swerve to try and avoid hitting her car but was unable to. He was the first to get out and be on scene trying to help. Unfortunately, the above named 2 passed away instantly. -- But according to Joe Biden, starting in the early 2000's at minimum, he traveled the nation and used the story to gain sympathy for himself, and to declare many many times in many many ways that the driver "drank his lunch" and how his family was destroyed by a drunk driver. But the man was not drunk. No charges and no evidence to that effect at all. And he also died in 1999 and was now no longer able to defend himself. And yet FB (below) is removing posts if you claim he lied about that?
Biden claimed a helicopter he was flying in was “forced down” when touring Afghanistan near where bin Laden was supposedly holed up. The helicopter landed to wait out a snowstorm.
Biden said he was a coalminer. He wasn’t.
Biden claimed he was “shot at” in Iraq. He wasn’t.
Joe Biden claimed he was arrested in South Africa. He wasn’t.
Biden claims he won’t raise middle class taxes or confiscate guns. You believe him?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/12/nolte-biden-claim-of-being-raised-in-black-church-doesnt-hold-up-to-scrutiny/
Social media posts are making claims about a Biden family tragedy. Here are the facts
Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has endured several major losses since he stepped into political life. In 2015, His eldest son, Beau Biden, died of cancer. More than four decades earlier, a car crash killed his first wife and daughter.
Biden and his second wife, Jill Biden, have discussed the tragedy publicly. But recent social media posts question how the incident has been framed.
"Biden said his first wife was killed by a drunken driver," one post says. "Fact check: Wife ran a stop sign and driver that hit her was NOT Drunk."
This post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
Here’s what we know.
On Dec. 18, 1972, Joe Biden’s wife, Neilia, and their young daughter Naomi, who was known as Amy, were killed in a collision with a tractor-trailer in Hockessin, Del. Beau Biden and Joe Biden’s younger son, Hunter, were injured. Biden was in Washington at the time of the collision, interviewing prospective staff members.
Numerous news reports indicate Neilia Biden was pulling away from a stop sign — not "running" a stop sign — when the collision occurred. Early news stories also did not describe the other driver as being drunk.
The day after the crash, the Associated Press reported that police said the Chevrolet station wagon Neilia Biden was driving "pulled from a stop sign" and was struck on the left side by a truck. The station wagon continued moving for "approximately 150 feet, spinning around, going backwards down an embankment and striking three trees."
In a story from August 2020, The News Journal in Delaware said Neilia Biden was driving west on Valley Road, a then-rural road in Hockessin, around 2:30 p.m. on Dec. 18. Her station wagon "pulled away from the stop sign" at an intersection when she was struck by the front side of the tractor-trailer being driven by Curtis Dunn, who was on his way home to Pennsylvania.
Investigators found that alcohol didn’t play a role in the crash, according to a 2008 News Journal story. Dunn, who died in 1999, was not charged. But, the paper reported, Biden has suggested that Dunn was intoxicated when the crash occurred. - sure, he suggested that all the way from Washington.
In 2007, Biden, then the vice presidential nominee, said that a "guy who allegedly … drank his lunch" drove the truck that collided with Neilia Biden’s car. A clip from 2001 showed Biden describing the incident and saying the driver "stopped to drink instead of drive."
Dunn’s family disputed the characterization and a spokesman for Biden said in 2008 that Biden "fully accepts the Dunn family’s word that these rumors were false."
We haven’t found any instances since then of Biden suggesting that Dunn was drunk.
The newspaper also quoted Jerome Herlihy, then a Delaware Superior Court judge who was chief deputy attorney general and worked with crash investigators in 1972.
"The rumor about alcohol being involved by either party, especially the truck driver, is incorrect," Herlihy said. "If it were some part of a cause of the accident, there would have been a charge, simply because if you’re driving under the influence and kill someone in the process — whether it’s the wife of a U.S. senator or anybody else — there’s going to be a charge."
Pamela Hamill, Dunn’s daughter, has said that her father didn’t drink any alcohol the day of the crash and was haunted by its memory for years.
"He grieved over that," she said in an interview with CBS News.
Herlihy also said that investigators discussed several possible causes for the crash, including that Neilia Biden turned her head and didn’t see the truck as she turned, the News Journal said.
The police file for the crash no longer exists but, Politico reported in 2019, "coverage in the newspapers at the time made clear that fault was not in question. For whatever reason, Neilia Biden, who was holding the baby, ended up in the right of way of Dunn’s truck coming down a long hill." She had a stop sign and Dunn did not, Herlihy said.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/oct/04/social-media-posts-are-making-claims-about-biden-f/